Time scale of massacre:

[lookout]

I wish the Jeremy supporters would understand the fragile nature of Sheila towards the end of her life: uncertain, unconfident, puffing nervously on cigars and avoiding eye contact, forgetful in personal hygiene matters including body odour and the timing of her period, unable to drive, dependant on her mother's food parcels, unable without supreme effort to walk properly due to medicinal side-effects.

She was a sitting duck for Jeremy and he knew it.

She was also a ticking time bomb ready to go off, considering what she had to contend with during the short years of her life. End of the tether it's called.

[Jane]

She was also a ticking time bomb ready to go off, considering what she had to contend with during the short years of her life. End of the tether it's called.

With her inability to care for herself, I'm more inclined to see her as a slowly deflating balloon.

[Steve_uk]

She was also a ticking time bomb ready to go off, considering what she had to contend with during the short years of her life. End of the tether it's called.

I think she realized her mistakes with Colin had driven him away and I doubt she would have repeated them. She knew she needed help in the very early days of their relationship and it was to Colin that she turned. Even when they divorced and she dated other men they didn't compare favourably with him, and her last months were filled with regrets, the only shining light when she was well being Nicholas and Daniel, who kept her going rather than the other way round.

[lookout]

With her inability to care for herself, I'm more inclined to see her as a slowly deflating balloon.

Until such remarks as her mother had said about her being an unfit mother. Sheila herself wouldn't have known or realised this at the time.

[Jane]

Until such remarks as her mother had said about her being an unfit mother. Sheila herself wouldn't have known or realised this at the time.

Was that remark made in anyone's hearing that can confirm it?

[lookout]

Was that remark made in anyone's hearing that can confirm it?

I first saw it in Claire Powell's book.

[Munksa]

Jane, "With her inability to care for herself, I'm more inclined to see her as a slowly deflating balloon."

Jane some of your comments here make me smile, deflating balloon"!

She was poor Sheila.

[Jane]

I first saw it in Claire Powell's book.

Then I think it may be fair to think the words came from CP's pen, as opposed to June's mouth.

[lookout]

Then I think it may be fair to think the words came from CP's pen, as opposed to June's mouth.

It would have originated from June to have been repeated in the book. If you are to believe CAL's book speaking about Sheila's debts, the same came from CP's written years before, so being that fact was correct in the eyes of many tells me that there are the odd hints of truth in some books.

[Rob_]

Bamber used the silencer. It was intially a silent massacre attempt at 2am.

After the massacre he put the silencer back where it was always kept - in it's box at the back of the gun cupboard.

There is no issue.

What is the strongest evidence a silencer was used Adam? because I have not seen any evidence that proves one was used but maybe I have missed it?

If I was using a gun with a silencer I would assume it would be obvious to the Police so the last thing I would do would be to hide the silencer away.

[Jane]

It would have originated from June to have been repeated in the book. If you are to believe CAL's book speaking about Sheila's debts, the same came from CP's written years before, so being that fact was correct in the eyes of many tells me that there are the odd hints of truth in some books.

I'm sorry, Lookout, but I really cannot accept the validity of words attributed to anyone long dead, and who was unknown to the author. I can't recall exactly what CAL said, but as it has never been proven that Sheila had debts, I'd be VERY surprised to go back and read that she claimed such as fact, unlike CP, whose book was written more as a novel.

[Steve_uk]

What is the strongest evidence a silencer was used Adam? because I have not seen any evidence that proves one was used but maybe I have missed it?

If I was using a gun with a silencer I would assume it would be obvious to the Police so the last thing I would do would be to hide the silencer away.

It had Sheila's blood inside. The Jeremy supporters are always keen to stress the relatives had little contact with the family when it suits, yet expect them to guess her blood group.

[lookout]

I'm sorry, Lookout, but I really cannot accept the validity of words attributed to anyone long dead, and who was unknown to the author. I can't recall exactly what CAL said, but as it has never been proven that Sheila had debts, I'd be VERY surprised to go back and read that she claimed such as fact, unlike CP, whose book was written more as a novel.

Even JB in his statement mentioned debts which were accruing with Sheila, which was why she was seeking work and ended up in a seedy nightclub.

[Jane]

Even JB in his statement mentioned debts which were accruing with Sheila, which was why she was seeking work and ended up in a seedy nightclub.

None of which has ever been proven. Strange that no one jumped on that bandwagon claiming she owed them, and then there was Freddy, SAID to have been her dealer. I believe him to have said that he lent her money.

[Adam]

Even JB in his statement mentioned debts which were accruing with Sheila, which was why she was seeking work and ended up in a seedy nightclub.

It must be true then.

Not more money going have to be spent by Nevill & June bailing Sheila out.