The Last Christmas

[killingeve]

Is this Jeremy's last Christmas in prison?

I have information from a source that the CCRC are treating Jeremy's March application on a serious level and there has now been formal contact between the CCRC and Essex Police in a manner that suggests to me the application has not been refused (yet) and the CCRC are investigating further. 

I also have information that two new prominent individuals will be backing Jeremy Bamber's campaign.

The claims coming out of the Campaign Team about the evidence and grounds for appeal are extravagant.  We will have to see, but as I hear more, I will post to this thread with updates.

I am being vague at the moment as I cannot reveal my source or be more specific at this time.

My view is that Jeremy will have at least one more Christmas in prison.  Based on what I have heard, I think it will take time for the CCRC to consider and make inquiries and there may have to be a police investigation.  I cannot say what the outcome will be, obviously.

Tom and Ben.

[killingeve]

Is this Jeremy's last Christmas in prison?

I have information from a source that the CCRC are treating Jeremy's March application on a serious level and there has now been formal contact between the CCRC and Essex Police in a manner that suggests to me the application has not been refused (yet) and the CCRC are investigating further. 

I also have information that two new prominent individuals will be backing Jeremy Bamber's campaign.

The claims coming out of the Campaign Team about the evidence and grounds for appeal are extravagant.  We will have to see, but as I hear more, I will post to this thread with updates.

I am being vague at the moment as I cannot reveal my source or be more specific at this time.

My view is that Jeremy will have at least one more Christmas in prison.  Based on what I have heard, I think it will take time for the CCRC to consider and make inquiries and there may have to be a police investigation.  I cannot say what the outcome will be, obviously.

Have you read the full CCRC report setting out exactly why the 2012 submission failed?  Not the mini report put out for public consumption. 

It isn't in Bamber's/CT's interests to level with the public unless it is referred to CoA.  If it fails apart from being honest and transparent they're in a lose-lose situation.

[guest29835]

QC likes to pretend he's in the know.

I know, Adam.  It helps me when I'm out on the pull. Keep it between me and you, though.

[killingeve]

I know, Adam.  It helps me when I'm out on the pull. Keep it between me and you, though.

Whether you're in the know or not can you please answer the following question:

Have you read the full 2012 report detailing why the submission failed? 

[guest29835]

Whether you're in the know or not can you please answer the following question:

Have you read the full 2012 report detailing why the submission failed?

Yes, that was passed to me by someone else, some time ago.

I will not answer your questions on here.  You've insulted me without any provocation, you've persisted to do so, and not apologised.

Since it's that time of year, my message to you is that you can get stuffed!

[killingeve]

Yes, that was passed to me by someone else, some time ago.

Thanks.  Just to clarify this is the full CCRC report not the judicial review report?

[guest29835]

Thanks.  Just to clarify this is the full CCRC report not the judicial review report?

What do you think? 

[killingeve]

Yes, that was passed to me by someone else, some time ago.

I will not answer your questions on here.  You've insulted me without any provocation, you've persisted to do so, and not apologised.

Since it's that time of year, my message to you is that you can get stuffed!

According to you everyone insults you without any provocation.  As I said previously its never you always someone else.

[killingeve]

What do you think?

What I think has no bearing on whether or not you have actually read the full report. 

[JackieD]

According to you everyone insults you without any provocation.  As I said previously its never you always someone else.

He has never accused me I adore him

[guest29835]

What I think has no bearing on whether or not you have actually read the full report.

Well it's not like you'd listen to anything I have to say whether I had or hadn't, so what difference does it make?

And why would I pretend to have such a report and have read it, if I haven't?  I have already told you that somebody gave me a copy some time ago.  What more do you want?  A handprint?

Is this another Essex Police interrogation?  I may need a solicitor.

[killingeve]

Well it's not like you'd listen to anything I have to say whether I had or hadn't, so what difference does it make?

And why would I pretend to have such a report and have read it, if I haven't?  I have already told you that somebody gave me a copy some time ago.  What more do you want?  A handprint?

Is this another Essex Police interrogation?  I may need a solicitor.

Are you willing and able to upload a copy here for discussion?

[guest29835]

Are you willing and able to upload a copy here for discussion?

You're havin' a larrrrf.

Do you honestly think that I would breach the confidence of the person who shared the document with me, for you?  Really?  I would hesitate to do that for my best friend, never mind you.

You, Steve, Adam, Jane, Munksa...have I missed anybody out?...you are all utterly contemptible.

I will wish you a blessed Yule, because decency demands it, but please think about things over the break.

[JackieD]

You're havin' a larrrrf.

Do you honestly think that I would breach the confidence of the person who shared the document with me, for you?  Really?  I would hesitate to do that for my best friend, never mind you.

You, Steve, Adam, Jane, Munksa...have I missed anybody out?...you are all utterly contemptible.

I will wish you a blessed Yule, because decency demands it, but please think about things over the break.

🥰

[Roch]

Is this Jeremy's last Christmas in prison?

I have information from a source that the CCRC are treating Jeremy's March application on a serious level and there has now been formal contact between the CCRC and Essex Police in a manner that suggests to me the application has not been refused (yet) and the CCRC are investigating further. 

I also have information that two new prominent individuals will be backing Jeremy Bamber's campaign.

The claims coming out of the Campaign Team about the evidence and grounds for appeal are extravagant.  We will have to see, but as I hear more, I will post to this thread with updates.

I am being vague at the moment as I cannot reveal my source or be more specific at this time.

My view is that Jeremy will have at least one more Christmas in prison.  Based on what I have heard, I think it will take time for the CCRC to consider and make inquiries and there may have to be a police investigation.  I cannot say what the outcome will be, obviously.

Interesting. It's worth noting that the most recent generic response from Essex Police, was elaborated upon and I have no doubt that this elaboration was designed to capitalise upon the recent media interest, drama and MindHouse Productions.

All of that, was a last ditch all-out attempt, to sell Jeremy Bamber as the greedy, mass murderer, with the police fulfilling their usual clichéd role, as bumbling along until Stan Jones and the relatives forced to though their own 'correct' narrative and won the day.

This presentation is to gel in the minds of the public a set view of the case, so that a rejection of submissions is made to be less controversial - because there is relatively no sizeable public opinion to bay for a referral. If Priti Patel can set the mood music and the public think that Bamber is guilty, that is the last bastion of hope for those with vested interests, some of whom knew that material had been released to Bamber's defence which could undermine the case.

We can only hope that the CCRC somehow baulk at this clichéd presentation of the case, avoid taking the route of rejection and drop a bombshell in the middle of the lot of them.