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Re: Brief summary of the split between Bamber & Julie:
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2021, 02:21:PM »
The main reason I and others don't like you whining to the Moderator at every available opportunity is that you obscenely maligned him only a short while ago. You have therefore lost the status of independent moral arbiter on this site. A brief period of atonement from yourself would not go amiss.

Is there a moderator on the Forum?

I am not an independent moral arbiter on this site.  I am a member of this site asking that you cease and desist from launching personal attacks on me every time you come on here.

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Re: Brief summary of the split between Bamber & Julie:
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2021, 02:23:PM »
I believe the tactic we may now be seeing is an attempt to distract from inconvenient observations about Julie Mugford. 

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Re: Brief summary of the split between Bamber & Julie:
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2021, 02:23:PM »
Is there a moderator on the Forum?

I am not an independent moral arbiter on this site.  I am a member of this site asking that you cease and desist from launching personal attacks on me every time you come on here.
Yes, but if it were me and I had been insulted in the manner you insulted him I would think twice in intervening on your behalf when you have proved in the past to be one of the worst culprits for rule transgression.

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Re: Brief summary of the split between Bamber & Julie:
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2021, 02:27:PM »
I believe the tactic we may now be seeing is an attempt to distract from inconvenient observations about Julie Mugford.
Not at all. I have been Julie's harshest critic in my time: https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5528.0.html

The problem for the Jeremy supporters is how to meld her evidence with his in a way which puts him unambiguously in the clear.

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Re: Brief summary of the split between Bamber & Julie:
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2021, 02:28:PM »
Is there a moderator on this Forum?

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Re: Brief summary of the split between Bamber & Julie:
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2021, 02:31:PM »
Is there a moderator on this Forum?


As adults, I feel confident that with a little effort, we're all capable of moderating ourselves.

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Re: Brief summary of the split between Bamber & Julie:
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2021, 02:31:PM »
Not at all. I have been Julie's harshest critic in my time: https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5528.0.html

The problem for the Jeremy supporters is how to meld her evidence with his in a way which puts him unambiguously in the clear.

You have not been Julie's harshest critic.  I am harsher.  I was implying she is a murderer or something close to it.

And I have just melded her evidence with Jeremy's in a way that is unambiguously clear: she was in on it. 

Not that I am saying I know that is the case, but as a theory, I can't make it clearer.

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Re: Brief summary of the split between Bamber & Julie:
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2021, 02:32:PM »

As adults, I feel confident that with a little effort, we're all capable of moderating ourselves.

It seems not.

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Re: Brief summary of the split between Bamber & Julie:
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2021, 02:36:PM »
You have not been Julie's harshest critic.  I am harsher.  I was implying she is a murderer or something close to it.

And I have just melded her evidence with Jeremy's in a way that is unambiguously clear: she was in on it. 

Not that I am saying I know that is the case, but as a theory, I can't make it clearer.

Just as a further note on this, and in direct response to Steve's comment, I also previously melded Julie's evidence to Jeremy's: I explained that Jeremy could have been teasing her and she took his words out of context.  Ironically, Steve himself lends support to this in one of his posts above, when he reminds us that Jeremy was regarded as a teaser when at Gresham's.

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Re: Brief summary of the split between Bamber & Julie:
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2021, 02:42:PM »
You have not been Julie's harshest critic.  I am harsher.  I was implying she is a murderer or something close to it.

And I have just melded her evidence with Jeremy's in a way that is unambiguously clear: she was in on it. 

Not that I am saying I know that is the case, but as a theory, I can't make it clearer.
You're a simple man. You're simple because you've never juggled more than one thing at once in your life, never held down a 9-5 job or longer hours, never been in a relationship where after doing a day's work you slavishly followed the whim of a mass murderer because you were in love, a simple man if you think that weak, ineffectual sleeping tablets prescribed by a GP might suddenly be able to produce the effect of cyanide capsules and liquidate an entire family.

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Re: Brief summary of the split between Bamber & Julie:
« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2021, 02:44:PM »
Just as a further note on this, and in direct response to Steve's comment, I also previously melded Julie's evidence to Jeremy's: I explained that Jeremy could have been teasing her and she took his words out of context.  Ironically, Steve himself lends support to this in one of his posts above, when he reminds us that Jeremy was regarded as a teaser when at Gresham's.
..and how pray is Julie supposed to know her boyfriend is teasing when he moves from one topic of conversation to the other?

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Re: Brief summary of the split between Bamber & Julie:
« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2021, 02:48:PM »
Do you recognise the contradiction in your second paragraph?

If I started coming on here and insulting and attacking you every time, would you "walk away" or would you raise the matter with moderators?

Finally, can you confirm you agree and will abide by the Forum Rules that say personal attacks on members are not allowed?  I ask because you seem to be implying you don't agree with it.

I have reported your post - to the moderator. 

I do wonder why you, again, intervene in a dispute that does not directly concern you, rather than just leave it at the first paragraph?  What is motivating you?

I've reported you. Once, I think. Since then, I've used the choice open to us all.

To the best of my knowledge, I've not broken Forum rules badly enough for a moderator to consider banning me. Had my knuckles rapped once or twice, I imagine. Personal attacks are relative. From observation, it's often the poster responsible for causing them who's the loudest complainant -although they fail to see that.

I wonder on what grounds you've complained about my post? It was neither rude, nor insulting. More an observation.

Have you never 'intervened' in a conversation/dispute which has not directly concerned you? Very little of what's said here, directly concerns any of us, but we all like to have our say on occasions.

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Re: Brief summary of the split between Bamber & Julie:
« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2021, 02:52:PM »
Is there a moderator on this Forum?

Yes, as you know.  However there are limits to the time I can spend here.  I am hoping that things will calm down without the need for any forum disciplinary action, which almost always has consequences.  When I have time I will go through some threads and prune or edit them.  In the meantime I ask for restraint.


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Re: Brief summary of the split between Bamber & Julie:
« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2021, 02:57:PM »
JB's teasing/ jesting certainly backfired. It pays to know a person thoroughly and ask yourself if that person would ever be spiteful enough to twist what you'd said.
 Unfortunately JB didn't have the nouse to see-through anyone at the time.
 I bet he's learned now not to trust a soul !

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Re: Brief summary of the split between Bamber & Julie:
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2021, 03:56:PM »
You're a simple man. You're simple because you've never juggled more than one thing at once in your life, never held down a 9-5 job or longer hours, never been in a relationship where after doing a day's work you slavishly followed the whim of a mass murderer because you were in love, a simple man if you think that weak, ineffectual sleeping tablets prescribed by a GP might suddenly be able to produce the effect of cyanide capsules and liquidate an entire family.

I beg your pardon..?..?..?