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Sequence of events surrounding the silencer.
« on: November 26, 2021, 10:08:PM »
August 7th

DC Clarke tells Ann Eaton that Nevills body was found by the AGA near the mantle shelf.

August 8th:

Ann Eaton takes Julie to the mortuary and notes down Nevills injuries after talking to Julie.

Jeremy provides a witness statement saying he left the rifle in the kitchen without the silencer on.

August 9th:

After visiting the accountant, Jeremy asks Ann Eaton to pay back the loan for the farmland that she is living on. In order to pay death duties.

Ann Eaton visits WHF with DCI and DS Jones. While there she would have seen the blue coat obscuring a certain area of the mantle shelf.

August 10th:

Relatives visit WHF again and collected the silencer and also take back home Sheila's blood stained clothing. David Boutflour does not recall seeing any blood, paint or hair on the silencer while at WHF at this stage.

Ann Eaton contacts Whitam police station about the silencer later that evening.

August 13th:

Stan Jones collects the silencer and gives it to DI Cook.

August 14th:

Ann Eaton alerts DI Cook to the scratch marks under the mantle shelf.

And so, to summarise AE had the means motive and opportunity to contaminate the sound moderator in order to incriminate JB.


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Re: Sequence of events surrounding the silencer.
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2021, 10:20:PM »
Pity you and Sir Richard Scott weren't featured in the Theroux stich-up.

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Re: Sequence of events surrounding the silencer.
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2021, 10:26:PM »
According to Peter Eaton Stan Jones collects the silencer from him at 7pm on the 12th? The silencer having been given to him by David Bouflour.

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Re: Sequence of events surrounding the silencer.
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2021, 10:55:PM »
August 7th

DC Clarke tells Ann Eaton that Nevills body was found by the AGA near the mantle shelf.

Ann Eaton takes Julie to the mortuary and notes down Nevills injuries after talking to Julie.

August 8th:

Jeremy provides a witness statement saying he left the rifle in the kitchen without the silencer on.

August 9th:

After visiting the accountant, Jeremy asks Ann Eaton to pay back the loan for the farmland that she is living on. In order to pay death duties.

Ann Eaton visits WHF with DCI and DS Jones. While there she would have seen the blue coat obscuring a certain area of the mantle shelf.

August 10th:

Relatives visit WHF again and collected the silencer and also take back home Sheila's blood stained clothing. David Boutflour does not recall seeing any blood, paint or hair on the silencer while at WHF at this stage.

Ann Eaton contacts Whitam police station about the silencer later that evening.

August 13th:

Stan Jones collects the silencer and gives it to DI Cook.

August 14th:

Ann Eaton alerts DI Cook to the scratch marks under the mantle shelf.

And so, to summarise AE had the means motive and opportunity to contaminate the sound moderator in order to incriminate JB.

Any proof of that?

Julie would just see the faces. That is all you need to identify.
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Re: Sequence of events surrounding the silencer.
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2021, 10:56:PM »
August 7th

DC Clarke tells Ann Eaton that Nevills body was found by the AGA near the mantle shelf.

Ann Eaton takes Julie to the mortuary and notes down Nevills injuries after talking to Julie.

August 8th:

Jeremy provides a witness statement saying he left the rifle in the kitchen without the silencer on.

August 9th:

After visiting the accountant, Jeremy asks Ann Eaton to pay back the loan for the farmland that she is living on. In order to pay death duties.

Ann Eaton visits WHF with DCI and DS Jones. While there she would have seen the blue coat obscuring a certain area of the mantle shelf.

August 10th:

Relatives visit WHF again and collected the silencer and also take back home Sheila's blood stained clothing. David Boutflour does not recall seeing any blood, paint or hair on the silencer while at WHF at this stage.

Ann Eaton contacts Whitam police station about the silencer later that evening.

August 13th:

Stan Jones collects the silencer and gives it to DI Cook.

August 14th:

Ann Eaton alerts DI Cook to the scratch marks under the mantle shelf.

And so, to summarise AE had the means motive and opportunity to contaminate the sound moderator in order to incriminate JB.

Agree with that.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Sequence of events surrounding the silencer.
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2021, 10:57:PM »
August 7th

DC Clarke tells Ann Eaton that Nevills body was found by the AGA near the mantle shelf.

Ann Eaton takes Julie to the mortuary and notes down Nevills injuries after talking to Julie.

August 8th:

Jeremy provides a witness statement saying he left the rifle in the kitchen without the silencer on.

August 9th:

After visiting the accountant, Jeremy asks Ann Eaton to pay back the loan for the farmland that she is living on. In order to pay death duties.

Ann Eaton visits WHF with DCI and DS Jones. While there she would have seen the blue coat obscuring a certain area of the mantle shelf.

August 10th:

Relatives visit WHF again and collected the silencer and also take back home Sheila's blood stained clothing. David Boutflour does not recall seeing any blood, paint or hair on the silencer while at WHF at this stage.

Ann Eaton contacts Whitam police station about the silencer later that evening.

August 13th:

Stan Jones collects the silencer and gives it to DI Cook.

August 14th:

Ann Eaton alerts DI Cook to the scratch marks under the mantle shelf.

And so, to summarise AE had the means motive and opportunity to contaminate the sound moderator in order to incriminate JB.

Any proof of that?
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Sequence of events surrounding the silencer.
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2021, 10:58:PM »
August 7th

DC Clarke tells Ann Eaton that Nevills body was found by the AGA near the mantle shelf.

Ann Eaton takes Julie to the mortuary and notes down Nevills injuries after talking to Julie.

August 8th:

Jeremy provides a witness statement saying he left the rifle in the kitchen without the silencer on.

August 9th:

After visiting the accountant, Jeremy asks Ann Eaton to pay back the loan for the farmland that she is living on. In order to pay death duties.

Ann Eaton visits WHF with DCI and DS Jones. While there she would have seen the blue coat obscuring a certain area of the mantle shelf.

August 10th:

Relatives visit WHF again and collected the silencer and also take back home Sheila's blood stained clothing. David Boutflour does not recall seeing any blood, paint or hair on the silencer while at WHF at this stage.

Ann Eaton contacts Whitam police station about the silencer later that evening.

August 13th:

Stan Jones collects the silencer and gives it to DI Cook.

August 14th:

Ann Eaton alerts DI Cook to the scratch marks under the mantle shelf.

And so, to summarise AE had the means motive and opportunity to contaminate the sound moderator in order to incriminate JB.

AE was an observant lady.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Sequence of events surrounding the silencer.
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2021, 11:00:PM »
August 7th

DC Clarke tells Ann Eaton that Nevills body was found by the AGA near the mantle shelf.

Ann Eaton takes Julie to the mortuary and notes down Nevills injuries after talking to Julie.

August 8th:

Jeremy provides a witness statement saying he left the rifle in the kitchen without the silencer on.

August 9th:

After visiting the accountant, Jeremy asks Ann Eaton to pay back the loan for the farmland that she is living on. In order to pay death duties.

Ann Eaton visits WHF with DCI and DS Jones. While there she would have seen the blue coat obscuring a certain area of the mantle shelf.

August 10th:

Relatives visit WHF again and collected the silencer and also take back home Sheila's blood stained clothing. David Boutflour does not recall seeing any blood, paint or hair on the silencer while at WHF at this stage.

Ann Eaton contacts Whitam police station about the silencer later that evening.

August 13th:

Stan Jones collects the silencer and gives it to DI Cook.

August 14th:

Ann Eaton alerts DI Cook to the scratch marks under the mantle shelf.

And so, to summarise AE had the means motive and opportunity to contaminate the sound moderator in order to incriminate JB.

Agree with that.

Did AE take home the bucket of water?
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Sequence of events surrounding the silencer.
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2021, 11:01:PM »
August 7th

DC Clarke tells Ann Eaton that Nevills body was found by the AGA near the mantle shelf.

Ann Eaton takes Julie to the mortuary and notes down Nevills injuries after talking to Julie.

August 8th:

Jeremy provides a witness statement saying he left the rifle in the kitchen without the silencer on.

August 9th:

After visiting the accountant, Jeremy asks Ann Eaton to pay back the loan for the farmland that she is living on. In order to pay death duties.

Ann Eaton visits WHF with DCI and DS Jones. While there she would have seen the blue coat obscuring a certain area of the mantle shelf.

August 10th:

Relatives visit WHF again and collected the silencer and also take back home Sheila's blood stained clothing. David Boutflour does not recall seeing any blood, paint or hair on the silencer while at WHF at this stage.

Ann Eaton contacts Whitam police station about the silencer later that evening.

August 13th:

Stan Jones collects the silencer and gives it to DI Cook.

August 14th:

Ann Eaton alerts DI Cook to the scratch marks under the mantle shelf.

And so, to summarise AE had the means motive and opportunity to contaminate the sound moderator in order to incriminate JB.

Agree with that. Or rather take your word for it.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Sequence of events surrounding the silencer.
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2021, 11:04:PM »
August 7th

DC Clarke tells Ann Eaton that Nevills body was found by the AGA near the mantle shelf.

Ann Eaton takes Julie to the mortuary and notes down Nevills injuries after talking to Julie.

August 8th:

Jeremy provides a witness statement saying he left the rifle in the kitchen without the silencer on.

August 9th:

After visiting the accountant, Jeremy asks Ann Eaton to pay back the loan for the farmland that she is living on. In order to pay death duties.

Ann Eaton visits WHF with DCI and DS Jones. While there she would have seen the blue coat obscuring a certain area of the mantle shelf.

August 10th:

Relatives visit WHF again and collected the silencer and also take back home Sheila's blood stained clothing. David Boutflour does not recall seeing any blood, paint or hair on the silencer while at WHF at this stage.

Ann Eaton contacts Whitam police station about the silencer later that evening.

August 13th:

Stan Jones collects the silencer and gives it to DI Cook.

August 14th:

Ann Eaton alerts DI Cook to the scratch marks under the mantle shelf.

And so, to summarise AE had the means motive and opportunity to contaminate the sound moderator in order to incriminate JB.


What did AE think the paint in the silencer was when she first saw it?
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Re: Sequence of events surrounding the silencer.
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2021, 11:07:PM »
August 7th

DC Clarke tells Ann Eaton that Nevills body was found by the AGA near the mantle shelf.

Ann Eaton takes Julie to the mortuary and notes down Nevills injuries after talking to Julie.

August 8th:

Jeremy provides a witness statement saying he left the rifle in the kitchen without the silencer on.

August 9th:

After visiting the accountant, Jeremy asks Ann Eaton to pay back the loan for the farmland that she is living on. In order to pay death duties.

Ann Eaton visits WHF with DCI and DS Jones. While there she would have seen the blue coat obscuring a certain area of the mantle shelf.

August 10th:

Relatives visit WHF again and collected the silencer and also take back home Sheila's blood stained clothing. David Boutflour does not recall seeing any blood, paint or hair on the silencer while at WHF at this stage.

Ann Eaton contacts Whitam police station about the silencer later that evening.

August 13th:

Stan Jones collects the silencer and gives it to DI Cook.

August 14th:

Ann Eaton alerts DI Cook to the scratch marks under the mantle shelf.

And so, to summarise AE had the means motive and opportunity to contaminate the sound moderator in order to incriminate JB.

To frame an innocent man of 5x murder. Of his family.

You are well aware of the obstacles.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Sequence of events surrounding the silencer.
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2021, 11:16:PM »
August 7th

DC Clarke tells Ann Eaton that Nevills body was found by the AGA near the mantle shelf.

Ann Eaton takes Julie to the mortuary and notes down Nevills injuries after talking to Julie.

August 8th:

Jeremy provides a witness statement saying he left the rifle in the kitchen without the silencer on.

August 9th:

After visiting the accountant, Jeremy asks Ann Eaton to pay back the loan for the farmland that she is living on. In order to pay death duties.

Ann Eaton visits WHF with DCI and DS Jones. While there she would have seen the blue coat obscuring a certain area of the mantle shelf.

August 10th:

Relatives visit WHF again and collected the silencer and also take back home Sheila's blood stained clothing. David Boutflour does not recall seeing any blood, paint or hair on the silencer while at WHF at this stage.

Ann Eaton contacts Whitam police station about the silencer later that evening.

August 13th:

Stan Jones collects the silencer and gives it to DI Cook.

August 14th:

Ann Eaton alerts DI Cook to the scratch marks under the mantle shelf.

And so, to summarise AE had the means motive and opportunity to contaminate the sound moderator in order to incriminate JB.
I don't know where you get the 10 August piece from. By 12 August David Boutflour has found the silencer with blood and red paint thereon. (Dickinson Report Paragraph 261)

DS Jones collects the silencer on 12 August (Dickinson Report Paragraph 266)
« Last Edit: November 26, 2021, 11:21:PM by Steve_uk »

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Re: Sequence of events surrounding the silencer.
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2021, 08:24:AM »
For God's sake !!

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Re: Sequence of events surrounding the silencer.
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2021, 10:29:AM »
AE would need to know -

Is Bamber innocent.

Sheila's arm lenght.

The rifle lenght with silencer.

Could Sheila have shot herself with the silencer attached.

What back splatter is.

Who of the 5 deceased received contact shots.

What locations would contact shots need to be to produce back splatter.

Where were the contact shots on the 5 deceased.

Is there any other forensic evidence against Sheila.

Was there a silencer next to Sheila.

How to realistically put blood into a silencer.

Where was Sheila's blood to insert into a silencer.

Did the rifle barrell already have blood on/in.

Did the crime scene photos show an unscratched aga.

How to realistically scratch the aga.

Had the police already checked all silencers at WHF.

The chance of this one piece of framed evidence getting a conviction.

The punishment if caught doing this.

Confidence the other relatives that none would succumb to police pressure.

Sheila's blood group.

The blood group of each other.

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This had to be found out very quickly. Providing AE had the idea & decided to go ahead.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2021, 10:30:AM by Adam »
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Re: Sequence of events surrounding the silencer.
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2021, 10:33:AM »
No---you just like being seen ! Attention-seeker they're known as.