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Offline Jane

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Re: Industrial Frame Department
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2021, 05:40:PM »
Totally agree


Would you like to elucidate on that, Jackie

Offline JackieD

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Re: Industrial Frame Department
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2021, 06:48:PM »

Would you like to elucidate on that, Jackie


Before I reply to you I’m waiting for your reply to David
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: Industrial Frame Department
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2021, 06:53:PM »

Before I reply to you I’m waiting for your reply to David


I have no idea what David is asking. I have him on ignore.

Just in case you need help in spelling. it, ELUCIDATE means to explain or make clear

Offline Steve_uk

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Re: Industrial Frame Department
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2021, 07:24:PM »
Not that I necessarily believe there was an 'industrial frame', but if Jeremy is innocent then evidence has been concealed.  People who are sceptical about the concept of an extensive and co-ordinated but hidden conspiracy should consider the Post Office Horizon scandal, which has been topical recently in the news:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal
You would have been better served by creating a separate thread rather than trying to link innocent sub-postmasters to a convicted mass murderer.

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Re: Industrial Frame Department
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2021, 07:51:PM »

I have no idea what David is asking. I have him on ignore.

Just in case you need help in spelling. it, ELUCIDATE means to explain or make clear

Although you may find them irritating, I think David's questions to you are fair. If you 'about face' as you did (and are fully entitled to do), that switch does create some puzzling areas with regards to your original stance. I think you should be willing to explore these. Obviously, you cannot be forced to do so.

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Re: Industrial Frame Department
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2021, 08:09:PM »
I have suggested the creation of 'The Industrial Frame' department in this case.

The police, experts, Julie, the relatives, people who knew Bamber, the justice system.

There is so much forensic & circumstantial evidence, the only other option is Bamber is guilty.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Industrial Frame Department
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2021, 08:11:PM »
Although you may find them irritating, I think David's questions to you are fair. If you 'about face' as you did (and are fully entitled to do), that switch does create some puzzling areas with regards to your original stance. I think you should be willing to explore these. Obviously, you cannot be forced to do so.
this forum.


Thank-you Roch, but when I feel the need to speak with a counsellor, it will be a professional, NOT this forum.

As for the reasons for my change of stance -and thank-you for your approval- but having explained, ad nauseum, there really is no point in my 'exploring' it any further when there are morons and axxxxxxxs who refuse to accept it. Frankly, I don't actually care that the "switch does create some puzzling areas with regards to your original stance" because it's no one else's business. At least I didn't come onto this site pretending, like some, to hold one stance whilst believing the other.

David's questions to me, whatever they are, won't be fair -and you're VERY naive to believe them to be so- they will be calculated to goad, which is why I have him on ignore.

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Re: Industrial Frame Department
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2021, 08:25:PM »

I have no idea what David is asking. I have him on ignore.

Just in case you need help in spelling. it, ELUCIDATE means to explain or make clear


That’s ok I will help you out and post David’s questions so we can get this sorted tonight
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2021, 08:26:PM »
You would have been better served by creating a separate thread rather than trying to link innocent sub-postmasters to a convicted mass murderer.

I have done no such thing, you lying scumbag.

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Re: Industrial Frame Department
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2021, 08:34:PM »
Although you may find them irritating, I think David's questions to you are fair. If you 'about face' as you did (and are fully entitled to do), that switch does create some puzzling areas with regards to your original stance. I think you should be willing to explore these. Obviously, you cannot be forced to do so.

David did also change stance from hardcore guilter. So he could goad Caroline & Jane.

He attempted a quiet stance change as well as he had no evidence reason.

He eventually came up with two minor evidence reasons which to him negates everything else!
« Last Edit: November 24, 2021, 08:35:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2021, 08:39:PM »
David did also change stance from hardcore guilter. So he could goad Caroline & Jane.

He attempted a quiet stance change as well as he had no evidence reason.

He eventually came up with two minor evidence reasons which to him negates everything else!
I think there’s  only you and Lookout without a stance change, I suspected innocence at first, Roch was Innocent, Guilty and now innocent, so he’s had the most changes out of everyone on here. QC 96% guilty

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Re: Industrial Frame Department
« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2021, 08:41:PM »

That’s ok I will help you out and post David’s questions so we can get this sorted tonight


Help from you? I'd sooner take poison which is what accepting 'help' from you would amount to. You seem to have found a kindred spirit in David. I guess two people goading is more fun than one, isn't it.

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Re: Industrial Frame Department
« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2021, 08:42:PM »
I have done no such thing, you lying scumbag.
You have by the very nature of the thread title. Once again you don't think through the implications of what you write.

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Re: Industrial Frame Department
« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2021, 08:44:PM »
I think there’s another only you and Lookout without a stance change, I suspected innocence at first, Roch was Innocent, Guilty and now innocent, so he’s had the most changes out of everyone on here. QC 96% guilty

Went into the case with an open mind. As knew nothing about it.

All I could do was read what's online, watch Youtube videos & read the best reviewed book - Wilkes.

For me Julie, the relatives, the police & experts all lying simultaneously (for weak reasons) was very weak.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2021, 08:45:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

Offline Jane

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Re: Industrial Frame Department
« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2021, 08:47:PM »
I think there’s another only you and Lookout without a stance change, I suspected innocence at first, Roch was Innocent, Guilty and now innocent, so he’s had the most changes out of everyone on here. QC 96% guilty


REALLY RJ??!!!! You're actually saying that Roch has changed stance :o :o :o Then WTF is he questioning me for. QC? Well he doesn't seem to be certain which way he's going to swing. I can only think he's keeping his options open so that whatever the outcome of the next whatever!!! he can claim to have been right?