Bamber's reaction to Nevill's 11 words.

[Jane]

I see what you are saying, but he is committing a crime with only two possible suspects. Yet at every turn he appears to take the worst course of action.

Rob, as far as I know, there aren't separate feelings for degrees of crime, just the discomfort of a faster than usual heartbeat until the offender can be certain of having got away with it.

[Rob_]

I'm just glad they didn't find that advert of his in the local paper, Rob.  That would have been the clincher.

Yes that was QC's idea Cc, JB might as well done would have saved everyone waiting around all night.

[Adam]

The fire arms team arrived at 5.00am Collins wanted to go in earlier with one team, Adams overruled him because of the size of the farmhouse and outer buildings and containment, so back up was sent for and they went in at 7.30am

I’ve seen a total of 12 armed officers before on a siege and not a fraction the size of WHF.

To not hear or see Sheila for 4 hours does say she was dead on police arrival.

Although the CT have since claimed the police 'were in conversation' with Sheila, their were '2 bodies in the kitchen' & a '999' call was made from WHF.

[guest7363]

I see what you are saying, but he is committing a crime with only two possible suspects. Yet at every turn he appears to take the worst course of action.

Did he though, he nearly got away with it Rob? 

[lookout]

I'd have sued the lot of them wasting over 3 hours outside when there could have been a chance that someone might have been saved. I think it's a disgrace. What were they all doing ?

[Rob_]

Rob, as far as I know, there aren't separate feelings for degrees of crime, just the discomfort of a faster than usual heartbeat until the offender can be certain of having got away with it.

I don't know to be honest I guess it all relative? but this was no ordinary crime it was the work of someone completely deranged in my opinion.

[guest29835]

Did he though, he nearly got away with it Rob?

To answer that, you'd first need to explain to us what the benefit was for Jeremy in delaying everybody.

[Adam]

I don't know to be honest I guess it all relative? but this was no ordinary crime it was the work of someone completely deranged in my opinion.

I agree.

[Jane]

I don't know to be honest I guess it all relative? but this was no ordinary crime it was the work of someone completely deranged in my opinion.

Well JB hasn't been found to be deranged, and we're not privy to the details of his -or any other prisoner's- routine psych tests, so we don't know about personality disorders.

[Adam]

To answer that, you'd first need to explain to us what the benefit was for Jeremy in delaying everybody.

To create a siege situation. Lots of EP outside thinking -

Sheila is alive & a threat to everybody inside. If alive.

Sheila has killed everyone. She is alive or has killed herself.


The more delay, the more this thinking becomes entrenced. It worked on Taff Jones.

[Rob_]

Did he though, he nearly got away with it Rob?

Only because people who thought Sheila could not have done the crime beefed up the evidence against him. Sorry but I 100% believe the silencer was planted though this does not prove innocence I admit.

[guest7363]

To answer that, you'd first need to explain to us what the benefit was for Jeremy in delaying everybody.

Im sorry QC I don’t need to answer to us or anybody anything.  Bamber chose the way he went for his reasons, it was suggested he did it for delaying tactics  ( that could mean time of death and to compose himself etc and to distance himself from the crime scene), I’m saying it nearly worked by all accounts.

[Adam]

Only because people who thought Sheila could not have done the crime beefed up the evidence against him. Sorry but I 100% believe the silencer was planted though this does not prove innocence I admit.

Do you believe the police planted the silencer for the relatives to find?

A bit optimistic of the police.

[Rob_]

To create a siege situation. Lots of EP outside thinking -

Sheila is alive & a threat to everybody inside. If alive.

Sheila has killed everyone. She is alive or has killed herself.


The more delay, the more this thinking becomes entrenced. It worked on Taff Jones.

Taff knew JB was innocent Adam, I would love to see all the case notes from the original investigation before it became five murders.

[Adam]

Im sorry QC I don’t need to answer to us or anybody anything.  Bamber chose the way he went for his reasons, it was suggested he did it for delaying tactics  ( that could mean time of death and to compose himself etc and to distance himself from the crime scene), I’m saying it nearly worked by all accounts.

The longer the delay, the more distance he puts himself from the crime.

Espescially if the police believe Sheila or other people in WHF could be alive.