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Re: Julie does not sound to sure?
« Reply #45 on: October 31, 2021, 07:03:AM »
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9971.msg455277.html#msg455277

I have previously done a breakdown of the kitchen fight. Going by the crime scene evidence.

There is no reason why Bamber would have sustained injuries.
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Re: Julie does not sound to sure?
« Reply #46 on: October 31, 2021, 08:30:AM »
I don't care what anyone says, a mother would fight for her children and also have risked being peppered with bullets as she shielded them, so considering Sheila had no such injuries, she was the one holding the rifle.

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Re: Julie does not sound to sure?
« Reply #47 on: October 31, 2021, 10:35:AM »
I don't agree with Rob saying Bamber would be 'home free' if he had left the silencer next to Sheila.

It would then be a crime scene exhibit. The paint & blood would be tested.
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Re: Julie does not sound to sure?
« Reply #48 on: October 31, 2021, 10:42:AM »
I doubt that Bamber was aware of back spatter. Or aware the silencer had brushed along the aga. If he was he would have spent 30 seconds putting it under a tap.

He simply took the silencer off downstairs prior to burning Nevill's back.

He then put it away back where it should be - in it's box at the back of the gun cupboard. A few feet from Nevill.
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Re: Julie does not sound to sure?
« Reply #49 on: October 31, 2021, 10:45:AM »
I doubt that Bamber was aware of back spatter. Or aware the silencer had brushed along the aga. If he was he would have spent 30 seconds putting it under a tap.

He simply took the silencer off downstairs prior to burning Nevill's back.

He then put away back where it should be - in it's box in the gun cupboard. A few feet from Nevill.

Bamber agrees Nevill's back was burnt minus the silencer.
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Re: Julie does not sound to sure?
« Reply #50 on: October 31, 2021, 10:52:AM »
I doubt that Bamber was aware of back spatter. Or aware the silencer had brushed along the aga. If he was he would have spent 30 seconds putting it under a tap.

He simply took the silencer off downstairs prior to burning Nevill's back.

He then put it away back where it should be - in it's box in the gun cupboard. A few feet from Nevill.

There is no certainty Bamber was even aware the rifle was too long for Sheila with silencer attached.

If he wasn't he was intially lucky.
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Re: Julie does not sound to sure?
« Reply #51 on: October 31, 2021, 11:18:AM »
Steve, he had the brass neck to state on national TV that he'd hoped for a reconciliation. He had no intentions with all the females he was knocking off ! Even on his wedding night.

Have you any idea how sad you sound? 

What business is it of yours? 

And it wasn't his wedding night.  It was Sheila's 21st birthday party.  More misinformation from you.

Colin and Sheila were divorced long before the murders. 

Denigrating a man online who lost his two little boys in the tragedy just about sums up how sad and pathetic you are. 

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Re: Julie does not sound to sure?
« Reply #52 on: October 31, 2021, 11:27:AM »
Have you any idea how sad you sound? 

What business is it of yours? 

And it wasn't his wedding night.  It was Sheila's 21st birthday party.  More misinformation from you.

Colin and Sheila were divorced long before the murders. 

Denigrating a man online who lost his two little boys in the tragedy just about sums up how sad and pathetic you are.

He should not misrepresent his situation, in an attempt to absolve himself of blame regarding the impact of his own behaviour on Sheila Caffell. Colin clings to Jeremy's conviction because it absolves him from facing uncomfortable truths.

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Re: Julie does not sound to sure?
« Reply #53 on: October 31, 2021, 11:36:AM »
He should not misrepresent his situation, in an attempt to absolve himself of blame regarding the impact of his own behaviour on Sheila Caffell. Colin clings to Jeremy's conviction because it absolves him from facing uncomfortable truths.

The pair separated in 1979 and divorced in 1982.  The murders took place some 6 years after they separated and 3 years after they divorced.  How is Colin to blame?  Does evidence exist that Sheila complained to anyone about Colin including her psychiatrist? 

You're a horrible little man. 

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Re: Julie does not sound to sure?
« Reply #54 on: October 31, 2021, 11:51:AM »
Going by the evidence, it was more of a kitchen attack by Bamber, rather than a fight.

Nevill had been shot 4 times upstairs, was bare footed, in pyjamas and had been chased downstairs by Bamber.

They did struggle for the rifle for a few seconds. However Nevill landed no blows onto Bamber.
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Re: Julie does not sound to sure?
« Reply #55 on: October 31, 2021, 12:03:PM »
Going by the evidence, it was more of a kitchen attack by Bamber, rather than a fight.

Nevill had been shot 4 times upstairs, was bare footed, in pyjamas and had been chased downstairs by Bamber.

They did struggle for the rifle for a few seconds. However Nevill landed no blows onto Bamber.

As Justice Henriques said in the recent Sky prog it was the most compelling aspect of the case for him in that it was completely out of the question that Sheila was able to overpower her father. 

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Re: Julie does not sound to sure?
« Reply #56 on: October 31, 2021, 12:13:PM »
The judge said Nevill 'put up a tremendous fight for life'.

Which tragically for everyone staying at WHF could only be defending himself.
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Re: Julie does not sound to sure?
« Reply #57 on: October 31, 2021, 12:13:PM »
As Justice Henriques said in the recent Sky prog it was the most compelling aspect of the case for him in that it was completely out of the question that Sheila was able to overpower her father.

This puzzles me to be honest Sheila had the rifle, Nevil may have already been hit in the arm and wounded before the scuffle, but JB likewise would have avoided a fight at all costs a mark and he is done for.

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Re: Julie does not sound to sure?
« Reply #58 on: October 31, 2021, 12:15:PM »
The judge said Nevill 'put up a tremendous fight for life'.

Which tragically for everyone staying at WHF could only be defending himself.

Have you seen two strong men fighting Adam? it's a bit more than a few overturned chairs.

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Re: Julie does not sound to sure?
« Reply #59 on: October 31, 2021, 12:19:PM »
Have you seen two strong men fighting Adam? it's a bit more than a few overturned chairs.

There was also a smashed light, scratched aga & sugar on the floor. Together with Nevill's horrific body and head injuries.

As said it was more of an attack than a fight.
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