Julie does not sound to sure?

[killingeve]

Doubtflour ? You can't spell either ! Not for the first time you've got the name wrong.

Pity you aren't this observant with Bamber.  If you were you would see him for what he is...a child murderer.

[lookout]

Pity you aren't this observant with Bamber.  If you were you would see him for what he is...a child murderer.

As if I'm going to take any notice of what you say/ write.

[Roch]

Blood running from a wound and blood sucked into the silencer are two completely different mechanisms.

Well, given we both know there was no blood sucked in to the silencer, I suppose it's an irrelevance anyway.

[killingeve]

Well, given we both know there was no blood sucked in to the silencer, I suppose it's an irrelevance anyway.

It might be irrelevant to us but its certainly not irrelevant to Bamber and the review commission. 

[Adam]

So it didn't start pouring out... But there was 'backspatter'?

That is what the evidence shows.

People watch films where someone is shot & either dies straight away or their clothes are covered in blood straight away & they are fighting to stay alive.

That would not happen here as it is a weapon for shooting rabbits.

[lookout]

You're watching too many westerns !

[Rob_]

That is what the evidence shows.

People watch films where someone is shot & either dies straight away or their clothes are covered in blood straight away & they are fighting to stay alive.

That would not happen here as it is a weapon for shooting rabbits.

At close range a .22 is still lethal Adam, how many exit wounds to the skull were there? Would the hollow point bullets be able to do this?

[killingeve]

That is what the evidence shows.

People watch films where someone is shot & either dies straight away or their clothes are covered in blood straight away & they are fighting to stay alive.

That would not happen here as it is a weapon for shooting rabbits.

The defence pathologist says as much here -

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/professor-bernard-knight-pathologist-turned-1929920

[Adam]

The debate about whether Nevill got his first two face shots in bed is really a non debate. Of course he did.

The twins & June were shot in bed. Nevill's first two face shots were in bed.

Of course there was no time for Nevill's blood to drip onto the bed or floor. He was on the move as fast as he could.

[Rob_]

The debate about whether Nevill got his first two face shots in bed is really a non debate. Of course he did.

The twins & June were shot in bed. Nevill's first two face shots were in bed.

Of course there was no time for Nevill's blood to drip onto the bed or floor. He was on the move as fast as he could.

I can understand Sheila messing up the shots to Nevil in the bedroom and him being able to get up out of bed, but why did he run downstairs and not take her out? One punch from a 6' 4" farmer would have laid her out cold?

You keep arguing that if the situation started down in the kitchen he would have immediately disarmed her so why not in the bedroom?

[lookout]

The debate about whether Nevill got his first two face shots in bed is really a non debate. Of course he did.

The twins & June were shot in bed. Nevill's first two face shots were in bed.

Of course there was no time for Nevill's blood to drip onto the bed or floor. He was on the move as fast as he could.

June suffered 3 shots while in her bed, the rest was when she got up. Two of the 3 shots went into the pillow. Nevill wasn't shot in the bedroom or his blood would have been traced there and it wasn't. He was shot as he made his way downstairs to the kitchen.

[Adam]

I can understand Sheila messing up the shots to Nevil in the bedroom and him being able to get up out of bed, but why did he run downstairs and not take her out? One punch from a 6' 4" farmer would have laid her out cold?

You keep arguing that if the situation started down in the kitchen he would have immediately disarmed her so why not in the bedroom?

but why did he run downstairs and not take her out.

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Yes. Why did Nevil let Sheila put a rifle an inch from his face & fire twice. Then run downstairs.

[Adam]

but why did he run downstairs and not take her out.

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Yes. Why did Nevil let Sheila put a rifle an inch from his face & fire twice. Then run downstairs.

Or rather 'why would'.

[Adam]

June suffered 3 shots while in her bed, the rest was when she got up. Two of the 3 shots went into the pillow. Nevill wasn't shot in the bedroom or his blood would have been traced there and it wasn't. He was shot as he made his way downstairs to the kitchen.

June was shot 5 times in bed and twice on the bedroom floor.

Keep up.

[Rob_]

Or rather 'why would'.

Back to your old tricks Adam, if Nevil can disarm Sheila in the kitchen as you keep saying, why not in the bedroom?

You keep asking me to follow the evidence, I think it's a question that as it's your theory you should answer.