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Bearing in mind that 'Nevill Bamber' was supposedly shot, either by 'Sheila', 'Jeremy','or some third party involvement', it is worth taking into account the angle, direction, position of 'Neville Bambers' body at the time he received that 'tightly knit volley' of 'four fatal head shots' ..

Since, those four consecutively fired shots could not in my opinion have been fired with such accuracy and precision, by bullets or pellets that were fired from any of the three general types of. 22 firearm known to be present at the scene. Everything points to 'the use of an automatic weapon being used', similarly to shots fired into one of the child victims in this tragedy..
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Prior to these injuries being inflicted, 'Neville Bamber' must have been sat on a wooden chair that was pressed against the kitchen side of an internal door, which the firearms team had to get through..
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It surely must follow, that with 'Neville' sat wounded on that chair in the only available space between the left hand edge of the red painted aga surround and the face of the external kitchen wall [ at a right angle to the position of the internal door] that neither 'Sheila' or 'Jeremy' could have been responsible for inflicting any of those four fatal head wounds to the head of 'Neville Bamber' simply by virtue of the fact of the angle that the four key bullets entered the skull, linked to there being insufficient room for the rifle to have been held in position to enable the four shots to be discharged!

Whoever was responsible for inflicting those four fatal head wounds had to either have 'come through the internal kitchen/hallway door'[and shoot him in that instant], or `shoot him after his body got toppled over`...

The crime scene photographs showing the final resting place of 'Mr Bamber seniors body, tells a story of its own. Since, if police who entered the kitchen via that/this internal door how could their have been something behind the other side of the internal door that they became delayed at in trying to get into the kitchen?

It leaves me no option to conclude that these/those fatal four head wounds must have been inflicted by a police weapon during the forced entry via the internal hallway/kitchen door, behind which the injured body of 'Neville Bamber had been the cause of the obstruction/delay...

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According to a police officers account whose duty was to eavesdrop the open line link from the farmhouse [from the in house 999 emergency call to police, requesting ambulances for the wounded and deceased made by 'Sheila' at 6.09am, to the police, he kept a handwritten log of all that he heard. At one point, he recorded hearing vioces and five knocks (shots fired) as the firearm officers entered the kitchen - this coincides with the fact that at the time of the forced entry into the farmhouse, that five fatal shots were fired [4 shots into head of 'Neville Bamber', and one (non fatal shot) shot into 'Sheila Caffells throat/neck']..
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The same outcome occurred in the bedroom where the twins had been sleeping -  another case of four consecutively fired shots to the back/top of the head...
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In my opinion, each of the four fatal head shots inflicted to 'Neville Bambers' head, were not received until after 'Neville' had sat on the wooden chair that was pressed tightly on the kitchen side of the internal door which led out to the back passage way. Firearm officers were held up and prevented from gaining a quick entry into the kitchen and beyond, because there was something very heavy on the inward opening side of that internal door. It took four burley firearm officers about 5 minutes to force open this internal door, and although entry to the farmhouse had commenced at around 7.30am, it wasn't until 7.35am that a message was passed from inside the kitchen that upon entry two bodies were found. Two minutes afterwards, at 7.37am, another message passed via police radio to senior officers who were sheltering in a nearby farm outbuilding, to the effect that two bodies had been found upon entry to the farmhouse kitchen. A minute or so later [7.38am] `the body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female'. Then at 7.42am, a message passed from senior officers at the scene to the control room at Chelmsford police headquarters for a senior investigating officer, the police surgeon, and the coroners officer to be contacted regarding the discovery of two dead bodies upon entry into the premises.

This leaves it wide open to infer that 'Neville' and 'Sheilas' bodies were present in the kitchen at the time burley firearm officers forced open the blocked and problematic internal door. The consequences of this, was that 'Neville Bamber' must have still been alive at that stage.  My reason for beleiving this, is that it would have been impossible for one person to have shot 'Neville' dead by inclusion of the four fatal head wounds, beforehand, and then lift and position his body in a sitting position on the wooden chair backed up to the internal door, without leaving clear signs that his body had been manhandled by the killer. Furthermore, no-one could have shot 'Neville' with either of the four fatal head wounds whilst he was seated in the chair, due to the fact that their was insufficient room between the right hand side of 'Neville Bambers' head and his body and the external wall of the kitchen for a shooter to have been able to get the desired angle of fire, using a rifle of any description, because the gap between body and the external kitchen wall was too small to accommodate such a weapon, enabling two double taps in two different parts of the victims head. Careful study of the double wounds of the four fatal gunshot wounds to 'Nevilles' head provides clear evidence that he must have received these fatal head wounds with his head falling at different angles at the time of the forced entry into the kitchen. It should be possible, for an appropriate expert witness to confirm that shots marked 3 and 4, were not fired at the same time, as shots marked 1 and 2, by a reliance on the angle where each pair of the crucial 4 fatal headwounds entered the victims head, as well as a (distinctive) noticeable gap between shots 3 and 4 [wider] and shots 1 and 2 [narrower]. This in my view is capable of allowing us to work out, that there was 'a very slight delay' between shots 3 and 4 being fired, and the other two shots [1 and 2], as the victims body was 'toppled from the seat of his wooden chair' toward the metal coal hod on the kitchen floor by the corner of the aga surround. Shots 3 and 4 were inflicted as 'one officer entered the kitchen once police had managed to push 'Neville Bambers'  body sufficiently out of the way to enable the opening edge of the internal door to open' [right to left - door hinges on left hand side of the door and which 'allowed the first armed officer access into the kitchen at which time he must have fired off shots 3 and 4 into the top right part of 'Neville Bambers' head'. Then almost instantly, 'as the victims body was toppling forward' , or 'when the victims body had come to rest' , the same firearm officer finished 'Neville' off, with 'a double shot tap [shots 1 and 2] to the victims head'..
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The two double tapped shots [3 and 4, 1 and 2] belonging to the four fatal head wounds inflicted upon 'Neville Bamber'  were fired by someone who is considered [in my view] to have been a trained and highly skilled marksman. Those four fatal shots [3 and 4 - 1 and 2] stand out like a red flag was compared to other wounds inflicted upon 'Neville Bambers' body, and the others, with the exception of the four head shots inflicted to 'Nicholas Caffell'...

I am now inclined to beleive that '`Sheila' did carry out some of the shootings, and that a highly skilled marksman, was/is responsible for the four immediately fatal head shots received by 'Neville Bamber' in the kitchen., and four of the five immediately fatal head wounds inflicted upon/to 'Nicholas Caffell'. If I am right about this, then we need to look more carefully at the number of bullets that were potentially fired by 'Sheila', 'Jeremy' or lets just say 'an' accomplice', whilst at the same time try to evaluate exactly how many shots could or may have, or was fired by an armed officer..

These are my thoughts as I attempt to unravel what really took place:-
(1) - at least three but possibly four different firearms could have been used during the shootings, these are, or could be:-

(a) - the .22 semi-automatic anshuzt rifle, with one magazine full of. 22 LR ammunition (only 10 rounds)

(b) - the .22 bolt action, [brno make] rifle (only 5 rounds)

(c) - the .22 [BSA] air rifle (only 1 pellet]

(d) - police issue weapon (8 rounds discharged, into targets - 1 round used in substitution of 1 pellet linked to unfatal shot to 'Sheila Caffells neck)

10 shots
05 shots
01 shot
08 shots + (1 round used in substitution drill involving bullet' PV/20')..

Total number of shots fired '25'..
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I am now inclined to beleive that '`Sheila' did carry out some of the shootings, and that a highly skilled marksman, was/is responsible for the four immediately fatal head shots received by 'Neville Bamber' in the kitchen., and four of the five immediately fatal head wounds inflicted upon/to 'Nicholas Caffell'. If I am right about this, then we need to look more carefully at the number of bullets that were potentially fired by 'Sheila', 'Jeremy' or lets just say 'an' accomplice', whilst at the same time try to evaluate exactly how many shots could or may have, or was fired by an armed officer..

I have managed to identify the firearms officer most likely to have discharged 8 police rounds into two of the victims [`Neville Bamber' and 'Nicholas Caffell'] and another live round issued to him by the 'force armory' when he commenced duty on 7th August 1985. By the end of his tour of duty, he was at least 8 rounds short of ammunition allocated to him against signatures, of the issuing officer, and himself. The firearm officer in question was/is 'PS Woodcock. I attach a copy of his edited witness statement to confirm that the contents of his witness statement has been/was altered and tampered with...

On page 1 of' PS Woodcocks' witness statement, dated the 20th September 1985, it clearly states that 'his witness statement consisted of 13 pages' , but there are/is only 10 such pages. Infact, there appears to be a total of 3 pages of evidence which for one reason or another remains unaccounted for'..

Please note the the typeset changes at page 6, which is the part of his witness statement where he describes entering the farmhouse kitchen through the blocked off inner door that links the kitchen and back passageway...
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Please try to pay attention to what I am about to say...

In the vast majority of cases where police [back in the day, mid-eighties to mid 90's]' government policy with regards to the detection of various types of crime was the' be all, and the end all', for police forces throughout the length and breath of the uk, to be recognised for their ability to solve different types of alleged offence.

The path of resolution, on behalf of the police forces/ prosecuting authorities to take the decision that someone other than the accused was somehow available to the victim and that similar consideration capable of portraying 'Jeremy' as the guilty party...

Concentrate on the fact that the content of 'PS Woodcock' dated the 20th September 1985, was /is fraudulent and that the wicked lies told by this 'monster of a cop' , was influenced by 'the then recent appointment of the devilish', 'DCS Ainsley' who was hell-bent on keeping the relative clan, happy and appreciative of the delayed Essex police attitude, in accepting that 'Sheila' was being made a scapegoat for every aspect of the shooting tragedy...
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These are my thoughts as I attempt to unravel what really took place:-
(1) - at least three but possibly four different firearms could have been used during the shootings, these are, or could be:-

(a) - the .22 semi-automatic anshuzt rifle, with one magazine full of. 22 LR ammunition (only 10 rounds)

(b) - the .22 bolt action, [brno make] rifle (only 5 rounds)

(c) - the .22 [BSA] air rifle (only 1 pellet]

(d) - police issue weapon (8 rounds discharged, into targets - 1 round used in substitution of 1 pellet linked to unfatal shot to 'Sheila Caffells neck)

10 shots
05 shots
01 shot
08 shots + (1 round used in substitution drill involving bullet' PV/20')..

Total number of shots fired '25'..

Reliance upon the above use of various types of firearm in the overal shooting scenario, where all the above rifles were used to fire shots at different stages of (1) - the seige, (2) - time of entry into kitchen after blockage of the internal door between back passage and kitchen [unconscious body of 'Neville Bamber' seated on wooden chair against kitchen side of aforementioned internal door], (3) - displacemnt of 'Sheila Caffells' body [beleived deceased] from kitchen to main bedroom between 8.10am - 8.30am, (4) - approximately 9.13am, when 'Sheila received the 2nd fatal neck/head wound shot during a training exercise when rookie firearm candidates were being shown how to remove a weapon from a [ victim assumed to be already deceased] body, and replacement of a weapon (on three seperate occasions) at the hand of 'PS Montgomery', '' PS Woodcock' and 'DI Cook'after which' PC Bird' took a series of crime scene photographs capturing the restaged crime scene which became known or referred to [rather and somewhat misleadingly] as 'THE MASTER COPY' Album compromising of 223 photographs which Essex Police presented to the defense and the court, in the build up and during the trial, as being all of the crime scene photographs which had been taken at the incident. Whilst unbeknown to the defense, or the jury, there existed a further 358 original  photographs which were withheld, and which were kept under lock and key by the then 'ACC Simpson' inside a safe in his office at Police Headquarters, together with the alternative 223 original copies which was disclosed to the defense, as stated. This meant that there was originally 581 photographs taken by the police in connection with the two part investigation [SC/866/85] which treated the incident as 'four murders and a suicide', then [SC/786/85] 'five murders' into the shootings, where 'DCI Jones' [ 7th August to 8th September 1985] was head of the first bit part of the police handling of the investigation, and' DCS Ainsley' [8th September 1985, onwards] replaced him. The reason for removing 'DCI Jones' from his post, and him being replaced by 'DCS Ainsley' [on the 8th September 1985] came about due to increasing pressure from a number of relatives ['Robert Boutflour', 'David Bouflour', 'Ann Eaton, etc] who got wind of the fact that Essex police were not, and had not been telling them the truth concerning how many times the five victims had been shot.
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The reason for removing 'DCI Jones' from his post, and him being replaced by 'DCS Ainsley' [on the 8th September 1985] came about due to increasing pressure from a number of relatives ['Robert Boutflour', 'David Bouflour', 'Ann Eaton, etc] who got wind of the fact that Essex police were not, and had not been telling them the truth concerning how many times the five victims had been shot.

On the first morning of the police Investigation,' DS Jones' and 'DC Clark' spoke to 'Ann Eaton' and 'Robert Boutflour' telling them that they had already visited the crime scene and viewed the bodies of the five victims, telling them that 'Neville Bamber' had been found downstairs in the kitchen. Adding that 'June Bamber' and 'Sheila Caffell' had both been found upstairs in the main bedroom, both laying on top of the bed aside one another. They told the relatives that there was a rifle resting on the bed between both of the bodies, and 'Sheila' had a bible resting on her chest. The two boys, 'Nicholas' and 'Daniel Caffell' were each found in their seperate beds in an adjoining bedroom. All the victims had been shot once. They told relatives that 'Sheila' had shot the other four members of her family, then she had shot herself once by an act of suicide..
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All the victims had been shot once. They told relatives that 'Sheila' had shot the other four members of her family, then she had shot herself once by an act of suicide..


Whilst present at 'Jeremys cottage' 'Ann Eaton overheard' Jeremy' telling the police officers, that there existed a silencer belonging to the. 22 semi- automatic rifle. As a result of this being told to the two police officers by 'Jeremy', 'DS Jones' made an excuse regarding the fact that he needed to return to the scene, and left 9 Head Street, Goldhanger arriving at whf at 11.15am [details recorded in a hand written police log relating to the comings and goings into the farmhouse itself].

He remained at the farmhouse until around 12.15pm, during which time he seized and took possession of a silencer which he recovered either from the kitchen, or the downstairs toilet /bathroom. This silencer became exhibit reference 'SBJ/1', item no. 22. This was the silencer [referred to by 'DI Cook' as not having a signed exhibit label or identifying mark upon it. 'Cook', therefore, attached a fresh exhibit label to that silencer, and gave it an exhibit reference of 'SJ/1', lab item no. 22.To all intents and purposes the silencer 'SBJ/1' item no. 22, that 'DS Jones' took possession of at the scene on 7th Agust 1985, and the silencer 'SJ/1' lab' item no. 22, were one and the same silencer...
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It remains a distinct possibility that the silencer that 'DS Jones' took possession of at the scene on the frst morning of the shootings investigation [7th August 1985] 'SBJ/1' item no. 22, was the silencer belonging to 'Anthony Pargeters'. 22 bolt action rifle, which 'Jones' mistook it for the silencer that 'Jeremy' had been speaking to the police about earlier that same morning.
 
'Jones' did not know that there was or should have been two silencers at the scene, (1) - which belonged to the 'Bamber' owned. 22 semi-automatic rifle, and (2) - another which belonged to the 'Pargeter' owned. 22 bolt action rifle. Both of these silencers, looked identical if when viewed together at the same time because the outward design features of both looked the same. However, internally, there was a very distinctive difference because (1) - the 'Bamber' owned silencer only had 14 internal baffle plates [ it was purchased on te 30th November 1984 along with the. 22 semi-automatic rifle, telescopic sight, and 500 rounds of. 22 LR subsonic ammunition. Delivery of these purchases was delayed for one week, due to the fact that there was not any silencers in stock at the gunshop. The gunsmith told 'Neville' and 'Jeremy Bamber' that the reason for tgere being silencers in stock was because the silencer manufacturer (parker hale) were manufacturing a new version of tge previous silencer they had been selling. Hence why it was a week later when the gunsmith delivered the purchased goods, consisting of a rifle, silencer, telescopic sight and 500 rounds of. 22 Ely ammunition to the farmhouse (WHF)..

It's just as likely or possible that the silencer that 'DS Jones' took possession of at the scene on 7th August 1985, might have belonged to the 'Bamber'. 22 semi-automatic rifle...
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The gunsmith told 'Neville' and 'Jeremy Bamber' that the reason for there being silencers in stock was because the silencer manufacturer (parker hale) were manufacturing a new version of the previous silencer they had been selling. Hence why it was a week later when the gunsmith delivered the purchased goods, consisting of a rifle, silencer, telescopic sight and 500 rounds of. 22 Ely ammunition to the farmhouse (WHF)..

In stark contrast, the 'Pargeter' owned silencer [purchased by bimself in 1980] had 17 internal baffle plates as part of its Internal design feature [three more extra internal baffle plates, than the 'Bamber' owned silencer, which only had 14] in addition, I beleive I am correct in saying that because the 'Pargeter' owned silencer had three more additional internal baffle plates than the 'Bamber' owned silencer [which only had 14] that there was a difference in the length of both outer casings with the metal end cap fitted due to the size of each baffle plate, that the difference in length of both of these silencers could range from an additional 1/2 inch - 1 inch in length..
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.. there was a difference in the length of both outer casings with the metal end cap fitted due to the size of each baffle plate, that the difference in length of both of these silencers could range from an additional 1/2 inch - 1 inch in length..

But, what 'if the smaller in length silencer' had been fitted to the. 22 semi-automatic rifle at the time she received one or other of the two shots she received? Since, the reduction in length between one of these silencers, as opposed to the other, would in my estimation have rendered it possible for 'Sheila' to have shot herself once by use of a. 22 rifle fitted with the smaller silencer [containing only 14 internal baffle plates]

If true, or proveable, this makes a vast difference to the claim that was relied upon at the trial concerning the length of the. 22  semi-automatic rifle, fitl0ted with the silencer [`DRB/1', lab item no. 23/22'] being too long to enable 'Sheila' any opportunity to shoot and kill herself by the weapon being so configured..
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