Podcast by Bamber's support group containing information about 03/21 submission

[lookout]

No doubt Rivlin picked up on this from Bewes/Myall notebooks/statements and at the time it happened Bamber agreed it was a 'trick of the light'.   But the point is Bamber had ample opportunity to present his alibi to DCI Jones/DS Jones during his interviews and at trial when Anthony Arlidge put it to him he murdered his family but he failed to do so because he knew it was a 'trick of the light' having seen it himself. 

Decades later he wants to use this as his alibi because he's scraping the barrel!

There are a few who would NOT call it " scraping the barrel " and who are cleverer than yourself !!

[killingeve]

Non disclosure of prosecution documents is a potentially serious and significant matter.  Non disclosure by the defence of the CCRC Statement of Reasons may be irritating or even regrettable, but it has no bearing on the case.

I do appreicate that is so from a legal perspective but my frustration is that Bamber and his support people want to garner public support eg signing petitions to have the docs disclosed and yet Bamber himself is withholding documents to enable the public to form opinions.  I find it somewhat hypocritical.  I appreciate there's nothing untoward as you have stated but I would just like to see this 100 page doc from the commission to get a feel for the thinking. 

According to the Guardian the last submission went to the commission Jan 2010 and the decision was made in Feb 2011 so we might have a while to wait and I guess even then Bamber will withhold the doc.  Might have to wait even longer given the growing complexity by volume and cuts to budget. 

The commission aims to turn cases around in 30 weeks but some go on for 2 years and I would have thought this case will drag on as even if commission think its a no goer they will need to dot i's and cross t's. 

[lookout]

It means naff all to me when posters start criticizing. In fact I'm quite pleased when this attitude kicks in as it shows that something is working which is the reason behind their criticism. 

[Roch]

No doubt Rivlin picked up on this from Bewes/Myall notebooks/statements and at the time it happened Bamber agreed it was a 'trick of the light'.

Where did Bamber agree? And as for Rivlin, in a case set up against JB, the police are hardly going to let through, any blatant evidence that someone was alive in the farmhouse. Rivlin should have dug and dug and been awkward. It's as if he didn't know how to. Instead, he just dothed his cap.

[killingeve]

There are a few who would NOT call it " scraping the barrel " and who are cleverer than yourself !!

If this forms part of Bamber's submission we will never know because Bamber is unlikely to release the document!!

[lookout]

If this forms part of Bamber's submission we will never know because Bamber is unlikely to release the document!!

And you know ?

[killingeve]

Where did Bamber agree? And as for Rivlin, in a case set up against JB, the police are hardly going to let through, any blatant evidence that someone was alive in the farmhouse. Rivlin should have dug and dug and been awkward. It's as if he didn't know how to. Instead, he just dothed his cap.

Bamber had a voice!  Look at how sure of himself he was in the police interviews and at trial.  If he felt that strongly about these matters that was the time to voice them not decades later when he's scraping the barrel.

Anthony Arlidge:  You murdered your mother, father, sister and her 6 year old twin sons

Bamber: Thats for you to prove (and prove he did)

Bamber could have said: No Sir I did not.  I was outside the farmhouse when PS Bewes, PC Myall and myself saw a figure move across a window.  We also lights going on/off and curtains opening/closing.

[killingeve]

And you know ?

No I don't know that's why I used the word 'unlikely' backed up by precedent.

[killingeve]

Does anyone think the review commission will seriously accept this as in anyway showing the conviction is unsafe set against all the other evidence?

[Roch]

Does anyone think the review commission will seriously accept this as in anyway showing the conviction is unsafe set against all the other evidence?

The problem for the authorities is that because the other evidence is rubbish, the issue of an MOJ will never go away.

[Rob_]

Does anyone think the review commission will seriously accept this as in anyway showing the conviction is unsafe set against all the other evidence?

Can you point me to this evidence because I don't see any! You keep asking forum members to give you information, where is the evidence that satisfy's you JB is guilty?

The crime to me was committed by someone totally off their head it was a act of total rage.

Your premise seems to be SC can't have done it so it must be JB? That's the only argument you have? So please list the keys bits of evidence that convinces you of guilt and I don't mean Adam's 74 items of total crap.

[Adam]

Can you point me to this evidence because I don't see any! You keep asking forum members to give you information, where is the evidence that satisfy's you JB is guilty?

The crime to me was committed by someone totally off their head it was a act of total rage.

Your premise seems to be SC can't have done it so it must be JB? That's the only argument you have? So please list the keys bits of evidence that convinces you of guilt and I don't mean Adam's 74 items of total crap.

It's sourced evidence. Seventy pieces not disputed by the CT.

Keep up.

[Adam]

It is surprising that people so passionately support Bamber.

However can't supply a Sheila scenario or find faults with mine (except it was dark outside).

They then refuse to accept sourced evidence!

[Adam]

To be fair Lookout, David & JackieD support Bamber for non evidence reasons.

Caroline, Trudie, Mike, Susan & JaneJ changed stance a long time ago.

Rob seems to be the only one kicking & screaming regarding the evidence.

[lookout]

To be fair Lookout, David & JackieD support Bamber for non evidence reasons.

Caroline, Trudie, Mike, Susan & JaneJ changed stance a long time ago.

Rob seems to be the only one kicking & screaming regarding the evidence.

What evidence ??