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Re: Podcasts and media about Julie Mugford
« Reply #75 on: September 20, 2021, 05:45:PM »

The photo of SC's foot showing blood marks which the jury never saw and have only recently been seen, the jury was told her feet were spotless.

Where are all the other photos of her hands etc. etc. I think 160 or so photos were shown to the jury out of over 500. Where are the logs calling in armed police I bet they were quite colourful, no mention of a reflection from the Moon in those I bet.

How many officers were in the house that day over 50? where are all the statements?

It's up to the jury to decide the case with all the information available not the information the Crown wants them to see to get a conviction.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/board,11.0.html
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Re: Podcasts and media about Julie Mugford
« Reply #76 on: September 20, 2021, 06:41:PM »
Dedham Vale and back?
Ha Ha nice try, from the Osea park it’s about 25 mile, it’s a lovely place though Dedham, I used to visit it quite a lot when I was living on the Garrison in Colchester, I used to run and cycle to and around Friday woods regular. I Do miss Colly though I must admit.

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Re: Podcasts and media about Julie Mugford
« Reply #78 on: September 20, 2021, 10:59:PM »
Well the foot showed a bit of redness. Not much considering Sheila was supposed to have walked around the bloodied house & fought Nevill. Bare footed.

Have you got a source about how many photos were shown to the jury?

What WS's  are missing?

But that's not what the jury were told was it Adam, they were told her feet were spotless implying she had not been walking round the house but been murdered before she had a chance to do anything.

That's just one foot, so what do the missing photos of her other foot and hands show? if the jury are only shown select facts to suit the Crown's version of events how are the jury expected to arrive at a correct judgement?

I don't need a source for the photos you know as well as I do it was only a fraction of the total taken.

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Re: Podcasts and media about Julie Mugford
« Reply #79 on: September 20, 2021, 11:40:PM »
I can count Adam there are a lot missing?

What officers WS's are missing?

How do you know they were not available at trial?
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Re: Podcasts and media about Julie Mugford
« Reply #80 on: September 20, 2021, 11:45:PM »
But that's not what the jury were told was it Adam, they were told her feet were spotless implying she had not been walking round the house but been murdered before she had a chance to do anything.

That's just one foot, so what do the missing photos of her other foot and hands show? if the jury are only shown select facts to suit the Crown's version of events how are the jury expected to arrive at a correct judgement?

I don't need a source for the photos you know as well as I do it was only a fraction of the total taken.

There was no blood, cuts or bruises on Sheila's feet. Her nails were in tact. As stated in the COA.

But well done to the CT for finding a photo of a foot with redness, since 1986.

The defence can show the jury what they want.
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Re: Podcasts and media about Julie Mugford
« Reply #81 on: September 21, 2021, 12:17:PM »
There was no blood, cuts or bruises on Sheila's feet. Her nails were in tact. As stated in the COA.

But well done to the CT for finding a photo of a foot with redness, since 1986.

The defence can show the jury what they want.

Telling the jury her feet were spotless, when she had clearly been walking around picking up blood on her feet?

"The defence can show the jury what they want" I agree if they have access to all the evidence, so can I see photos of the palms of SC's hands??

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Re: Podcasts and media about Julie Mugford
« Reply #82 on: September 21, 2021, 01:37:PM »
Telling the jury her feet were spotless, when she had clearly been walking around picking up blood on her feet?

"The defence can show the jury what they want" I agree if they have access to all the evidence, so can I see photos of the palms of SC's hands??

The photo is very weak. She may have walked across the bedroom onto June's blood. Bamber shot June before Sheila.

The defence can obtain and submit any evidence it wants. As well as dispute any evidence the prosecution brings up.

But well done to the CT. For finding one inconclusive photo in 36 years. They will be claiming Nevill called the sixth furthest police station next.
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Re: Podcasts and media about Julie Mugford
« Reply #83 on: September 21, 2021, 01:44:PM »
Telling the jury her feet were spotless, when she had clearly been walking around picking up blood on her feet?

"The defence can show the jury what they want" I agree if they have access to all the evidence, so can I see photos of the palms of SC's hands??

There are pictures of Sheila on the forum. If you find any others of her hands online, please post them.

Still waiting for your Sheila scenario. It should flow naturally and match the undisputed crime scene.
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Re: Podcasts and media about Julie Mugford
« Reply #84 on: September 21, 2021, 03:00:PM »
There are pictures of Sheila on the forum. If you find any others of her hands online, please post them.

Still waiting for your Sheila scenario. It should flow naturally and match the undisputed crime scene.

Sheila scenario? well going by the evidence given to the jury she was murdered on the spot as her feet were spotless, but going by the photo of her foot she was obviously walking around.

So do you want me to base my Sheila scenario on the evidence the jury heard or photos that have since come to light?

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Re: Podcasts and media about Julie Mugford
« Reply #85 on: September 21, 2021, 04:06:PM »
Sheila scenario? well going by the evidence given to the jury she was murdered on the spot as her feet were spotless, but going by the photo of her foot she was obviously walking around.

So do you want me to base my Sheila scenario on the evidence the jury heard or photos that have since come to light?

Just want you to give a Sheila scenario. Rather than bottling it.

Based on the undisputed bullet allocation, 1/2 phone calls, kitchen fight & body locations.
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« Reply #86 on: September 21, 2021, 04:57:PM »
Sheila scenario? well going by the evidence given to the jury she was murdered on the spot as her feet were spotless, but going by the photo of her foot she was obviously walking around.

So do you want me to base my Sheila scenario on the evidence the jury heard or photos that have since come to light?
Rob I’ve put a link for you to read about earlier posts of Sheila’s feet? Have a read mate.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8696.0.html

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Re: Podcasts and media about Julie Mugford
« Reply #87 on: September 21, 2021, 05:58:PM »
Just want you to give a Sheila scenario. Rather than bottling it.

Based on the undisputed bullet allocation, 1/2 phone calls, kitchen fight & body locations.

It's good that Adam is giving Forum members the 'hard word'.  This is a very effective way of delivering moral support.  People need to buck their ideas up and not just lean on Adam and expect him to put in all the effort on the Forum.

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Re: Podcasts and media about Julie Mugford
« Reply #88 on: September 21, 2021, 06:25:PM »
Sheila scenario? well going by the evidence given to the jury she was murdered on the spot as her feet were spotless, but going by the photo of her foot she was obviously walking around.

So do you want me to base my Sheila scenario on the evidence the jury heard or photos that have since come to light?
No she was led from her bedroom to the master bedroom, which would already be bloodied. The complete sequence of events I doubt we will ever know.

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Re: Podcasts and media about Julie Mugford
« Reply #89 on: September 21, 2021, 07:36:PM »
It's good that Adam is giving Forum members the 'hard word'.  This is a very effective way of delivering moral support.  People need to buck their ideas up and not just lean on Adam and expect him to put in all the effort on the Forum.

It is strange that supporters refuse to give a Sheila scenario. They are saying Sheil did it!
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