Louis Theroux

[guest29835]

Do you have a source she was sedated? I thought this was the only way JB could have shot Sheila when I watched the WHF series but the toxicological tests came back negative?

Adam and other pro-guilt people rely on the supposed sedative effects of Haliperidol.  Adam frequently misquotes, or misattributes, the 2002 appeal judgment in this regard.

[lookout]

Bamber committed the crime with silencer attached. Which makes sense.

He took it off & put it away afterwards.

All straight forward.

Just like that 

[Rob_]

Everyone agrees Bamber would use a silencer to commit the massacre.

He then had three choices -

Take it off & leave it next to Sheila.

Take it off & take it with him.

Take it off & put it away out of sight.

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He chose the last option.

I don't agree, at close quarters the silencer would be a liability, the rifle used was pretty quiet anyway. He would only chose the last option if he wanted to get caught and spend the rest of his life in jail.

[Adam]

Do you have a source she was sedated? I thought this was the only way JB could have shot Sheila when I watched the WHF series but the toxicological tests came back negative?

She was on Haloperidol.

The COA says she was sedated.

I see you are focusing on the most popular supposed flaw in my Bamber scenario. Rather than the 34 flaws in your Sheila scenario.

There is also the slim chance Sheila woke & went into the main bedroom while Bamber was downstairs. He then just had to lay her down & shoot her.

[Adam]

Just like that 

It is a simple case.

The internet & Bamber's 36 year old 'campaign for freedom' has magnified minor issues. Which the courts have dismissed.

[Adam]

I don't agree, at close quarters the silencer would be a liability, the rifle used was pretty quiet anyway. He would only chose the last option if he wanted to get caught and spend the rest of his life in jail.

It makes sense to use the silencer. When attempting a silent massacre.

The evidence shows it was used.

[Rob_]

She was on Haloperidol.

The COA says she was sedated.

I see you are focusing on the most popular supposed flaw in my Bamber scenario. Rather than the 34 flaws in your Sheila scenario.

There is also the slim chance Sheila woke & went into the main bedroom while Bamber was downstairs. He then just had to lay her down & shoot her.

I did not know I had highlighted a flaw in your scenario? The flaw in your scenario to me is that someone can be shot in the head four times and not bleed! unless you have submitted a more recent scenario? Also you had June being shot first ... oh well never mind!

[Adam]

I don't know why Bamber would take the silencer with him.

Easier to leave it at WHF.

[guest29835]

She was on Haloperidol.

The COA says she was sedated.

I see you are focusing on the most popular supposed flaw in my Bamber scenario. Rather than the 34 flaws in your Sheila scenario.

There is also the slim chance Sheila woke & went into the main bedroom while Bamber was downstairs. He then just had to lay her down & shoot her.

They don't.

[Adam]

I did not know I had highlighted a flaw in your scenario? The flaw in your scenario to me is that someone can be shot in the head four times and not bleed! unless you have submitted a more recent scenario? Also you had June being shot first ... oh well never mind!

My scenario has the twins being shot first. Once each.

Nevill was shot 6 times in the head and face. There was blood in the kitchen, where he died.

[lookout]

Obviously not police protocol in 1985. Not sure if it is now.

Of course it is, otherwise how does anyone know the time of death/s as is usually the first question that's asked when a body/ bodies are discovered. ? It's very important, as in this case it could have meant that there was no case to answer---murder/suicide it was. 
 

[Adam]

They don't.

148.

Sheila Caffell, probably in a sedated state from her medication, was also shot in the bedroom

[Rob_]

It makes sense to use the silencer. When attempting a silent massacre.

The evidence shows it was used.

I have not seen proof the silencer was on the rifle? JB knew about guns if it was obvious a silencer was used then why hide it??

[Adam]

They don't.

87.

Thereafter Sheila Caffell received monthly injections of Haloperidol, a drug used to treat agitated states which had anti-psychotic and tranquillising properties. It also has sedative side effects at the levels prescribed

[Adam]

I have not seen proof the silencer was on the rifle? JB knew about guns if it was obvious a silencer was used then why hide it??

Are you not aware of Sheila's blood & the aga paint on/in the silencer?