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Offline Roch

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Re: US / UK foreign policy - yet another embarrassment
« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2021, 09:12:PM »
If we look at the timeline of Alqeda attacks on western targets.

1992 - Yemen Hotel Bombings
1993 - World Trade Center
1998 - U.S. embassy bombings
2000 - USS Cole bombing
2001 - Word Trade Center (again)
2002 - Ghriba bombing
2004 - Madrid attacks
2005 - London transport bombings
2008 - Danish-embassy bombing

It seems to have stopped. And the threat diminished.

Is this a joke? You actually believe this?

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Re: US / UK foreign policy - yet another embarrassment
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2021, 09:39:PM »
Is this a joke? You actually believe this?

All these events happened.

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Re: US / UK foreign policy - yet another embarrassment
« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2021, 09:45:PM »
All these events happened.
Yes but you're forgetting the attacks in France and Belgium, which killed hundreds.

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Re: US / UK foreign policy - yet another embarrassment
« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2021, 09:49:PM »
Yes but you're forgetting the attacks in France and Belgium, which killed hundreds.

That was not Alqeda. They simply smuggled guns out of the middle east during the migrant crisis and just started shooting. Its not the same level of sophistication.

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Re: US / UK foreign policy - yet another embarrassment
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2021, 09:53:PM »
That was not Alqeda. They simply smuggled guns out of the middle east during the migrant crisis and just started shooting. Its not the same level of sophistication.
I don't care whether they call themselves Al-qaeda, the Army of Islam, Al-Shabaab or whatever: they're all Salafi-Jihadi Muslim terrorists.
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Re: US / UK foreign policy - yet another embarrassment
« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2021, 09:54:PM »
Its not the same level of sophistication.

You mean like this level of sophistication?

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Re: US / UK foreign policy - yet another embarrassment
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2021, 10:03:PM »
You mean like this level of sophistication?

I very much doubt the bomber deliberately chose a bus with that advert on and on top of that anticipated that section would survive the blast.

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Re: US / UK foreign policy - yet another embarrassment
« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2021, 07:51:AM »
I very much doubt the bomber deliberately chose a bus with that advert on and on top of that anticipated that section would survive the blast.

So you think the young lad just hit lucky, for all the world's press headlines?

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Re: US / UK foreign policy - yet another embarrassment
« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2021, 09:31:AM »
So you think the young lad just hit lucky, for all the world's press headlines?

What do you mean? Why are you referring to him as a "young lad"? He killed 13 people.
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Re: US / UK foreign policy - yet another embarrassment
« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2021, 10:35:AM »
Why, in 20 odd years, was it not possible to have seen off the terrorists ? Without adding too much criticism, the jobs of the US and UK were by no means finished.

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Re: US / UK foreign policy - yet another embarrassment
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2021, 11:11:AM »
Before Roch goes full conspiratard on 7/7.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oMMatsr7QI

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Re: US / UK foreign policy - yet another embarrassment
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2021, 11:30:AM »
Before Roch goes full conspiratard on 7/7.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oMMatsr7QI

Is that the BBC 'documentary'? You do realise the role of BBC ???

How would you measure the veracity of the BBC programme in itself?

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Re: US / UK foreign policy - yet another embarrassment
« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2021, 11:38:AM »
What do you mean? Why are you referring to him as a "young lad"? He killed 13 people.

Innocent lad. He killed nobody.

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Re: US / UK foreign policy - yet another embarrassment
« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2021, 12:13:PM »
Is that the BBC 'documentary'? You do realise the role of BBC ???

How would you measure the veracity of the BBC programme in itself?

It was produced by Renegade pictures. Plenty of your fellow conspiratards appear on the show to voice their concerns.

Innocent lad. He killed nobody.

Are you deliberately trying to plummet your credibility on this forum or are you just trolling?

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Re: US / UK foreign policy - yet another embarrassment
« Reply #44 on: August 19, 2021, 01:25:PM »
It was produced by Renegade pictures. Plenty of your fellow conspiratards appear on the show to voice their concerns.

Are you deliberately trying to plummet your credibility on this forum or are you just trolling?

Who commissioned it? It was cut to the detriment of any dissenting voices, in an attempt to discredit them. Some contributers were advised not to cooperate (for this very reason) but chose to ignore advice, and later regretted it. I believe it was shown on the BBC. As well as producing sometimes brilliant wild life and drama shows, the BBC doubles up as a propaganda outlet for the UK state and its apparatus, notably UK security services. The clue is in the name David: BRITISH Broadcasting Corporation.

You are actually insulting the families of the victims, many of who simply do not accept the official version of events and have campaigned for an independent enquiry (something that doesn't meaningfully exist in the UK).

By repeatedly using the term conspiritard, you are simply plummeting your own standing. It's no better a strategy for posting than is 'gish gash gollup' or whatever it's called.

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