THE SILENCER SAGA

[Adam]

Yes, I have said how. NGB also has the same model silencer and explained how.

I have already demonstrated this in the sequence of events that took place.

This is a woman who meticulously noted down dozens of pages of information and proactively probed the police from day one. She was also feigning sympathy for Jeremy by stroking his arms when she was actually looking for signs of cuts and bruises on him. This is someone with the savviness and sociopathy to do such a thing.

Explain again.

[Adam]

Yes, I have said how. NGB also has the same model silencer and explained how.

I have already demonstrated this in the sequence of events that took place.

This is a woman who meticulously noted down dozens of pages of information and proactively probed the police from day one. She was also feigning sympathy for Jeremy by stroking his arms when she was actually looking for signs of cuts and bruises on him. This is someone with the savviness and sociopathy to do such a thing.

I had 37 questions you didn't answer.

[Adam]

Yes, I have said how. NGB also has the same model silencer and explained how.

I have already demonstrated this in the sequence of events that took place.

This is a woman who meticulously noted down dozens of pages of information and proactively probed the police from day one. She was also feigning sympathy for Jeremy by stroking his arms when she was actually looking for signs of cuts and bruises on him. This is someone with the savviness and sociopathy to do such a thing.

Which AE didn't try to hide.

[killingeve]

Drain the water off and dump the contents, what else ?

And I uploaded her statement just a short while ago confirming this is exactly what she did.

[Adam]

Yes, I have said how. NGB also has the same model silencer and explained how.

I have already demonstrated this in the sequence of events that took place.

This is a woman who meticulously noted down dozens of pages of information and proactively probed the police from day one. She was also feigning sympathy for Jeremy by stroking his arms when she was actually looking for signs of cuts and bruises on him. This is someone with the savviness and sociopathy to do such a thing.

Not from day one. But soon after. She correctly thought Bamber was guilty.

[Adam]

David's getting carried away with a consipracy theory.

Even the CT have not promoted his theory.

Anyway there are another 70+ pieces of evidence in the COA. And that's just forensic!

[mike tesko]

You have never said how. Despite making the claim years ago.

How was AE supposed to have the idea & find out in hours?

'PC ROBERT CARR', [a Metropolitan police officerm at the time of these tragedies] at the beginning of the investigation 'he got involved'; and 'He' fed confidential/'sensitive' and 'operational' information 'to the relatives' on 'an hour to hour', 'daily', 'weekly', 'monthly', 'basis'.

[ngb1066]

NGB1066 explained how diluted period blood with a ratio of about 1:1,000,000 could have contaminated the silencer 

I am sure I did not explain that!

[David1819]

Blood is on average 90 percent water (depending on how hydrated the individual is). ABO testing involves diluting the blood in even more water. People claiming water will nullify the blood test results are only demonstrating their incomprehension of the subject.

[David1819]

I am sure I did not explain that!

This is what you wrote.

Mike

It would not be necessary for blood to be dripped into the silencer for contamination to occur.  It is very easy to dismantle the silencer without the use of tools.  The baffle plates drop out of the tube. Blood in either fluid or dried form could then be placed onto or into a baffle plate. They are non specific, i.e. they can be reasembled and inserted back into the tube in any order.  Therefore the presence of blood on an individual baffle plate when examined at the laboratory is not proof that the baffle plate was in that position when the blood came into contact with it.  This may be important in relation to arguments about backspatter.

A reasonable ground can be an inference which may be drawn from the surrounding circumstances.  In this case just dealing with the silencer evidence: i) JB denied being responsible for the murders therefore the defence case was that Sheila had to be responsible, ii) the rifle was discovered by police without the silencer fitted, iii) the silencer was subsequently said to have been found by a relative days later in a box in the cupboard under the stairs, iii) the silencer was removed from WHF, examined and handled by several of the relatives and retained by them for several days, iv) the FSS found blood inside the silencer which was either Sheila's or, less likely, a mixture of Nevill's and June's, v) items of Sheila' bloodstained underwear were removed by a relative from WHF, vi) although possible, the suggestion that Shela had used the rifle with the silencer fitted initially then removed it, placed it in the box in the cupboard and then shot herself, was an unlikely scenario, vi) the only other explanation for the presence of the blood inside the silencer was contamination, either accidental or deliberate.

Against that background Rivlin would have been perfectly entitled to raise the suggestion of contamination, even deliberate contamination, because that was an inference which might be drawn from the evidence.  I would go further and say that if Jeremy had insisted Rivlin would have been under an obligation to put such allegations to witnesses and he would have been in breach of the Code of Conduct if he had refused to do so.

[Bubo bubo]

Bubo Bubo. Most if not all the AE notes can be found here.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1677.msg51388.html#msg51388

Also notice in one of the notes, she is working out how much of her farmland is now owned by Jeremy and how much she owes.

Thanks for that. I would not trust a word she wrote so will not be reading them. Perhaps you could explain the source for these notes. They are her private property. Did the defence acquire these for trial or later appeals?

[Bubo bubo]

Ann Eaton still had a lampshade with Junes blood on it in 2001.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1986.0.html

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Thanks for that. In some respects this supports my claim that she was placed on the bed at some stage and that blood dripped. Some may have hit the lamp shade. AE may not have noticed this if the colours on the shade contained red. This is more likely under my claims than it is for the notion that she was shot in bed. She would not have blood on her hands from the injuries but if she touched them she would. She would hardly use the lamp as a point of leverage to exit the bed.

[mike tesko]

This is what you wrote.

'Did I ban you for the telling deliberate lies on this forum about me allegedly accusing me of 'falsifying ab witness statement, or 'other'...

I do not tell lies, I either tell the truth as I know it, or simply remain silent!

Remaining silent, is not an indication of guilt [depending upon vital circumstances, in each and every situation]...

There are extenuating circumstances in every case, or matter...

[David1819]

Thanks for that. I would not trust a word she wrote so will not be reading them. Perhaps you could explain the source for these notes. They are her private property. Did the defence acquire these for trial or later appeals?

COLP obtained them in 1991. Yes, they were used at the 2002 appeal. In relation to phone call times and the mess in the kitchen.

[Bubo bubo]

This is what you wrote.

Given the miniscule quantities of blood found I believe EP got 'lucky'. (see my 4 points) They were forced to invent/create the flake when PJL's initial findings raised serious contradictory views as to the potential source of the blood obtained by his results.