First 9 shots in the main bedroom - following the evidence:

[Adam]

The hallway carpet was not tested.

Only 5 samples of the bedroom carpet were tested. Which matched June's. This is not surprising as she was shot 7 times and died there.

So both mine and David's scenario's can work after Nevill received his first 4 shots from Bamber.

Still believe Nevill leaked no blood in the 10 second period he was receiving his 4 shots in the bedroom. Due to the low power of the rifle.

[David1819]

The hallway carpet was not tested.
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Indeed it wasn't but blood was seen on it. And it can be proven to be Nevils via a process of elimination.

[Adam]

Indeed it wasn't but blood was seen on it. And it can be proven to be Nevils via a process of elimination.

Blood was seen on it. Source please.

Both yours & my blood scenarios work during the 10 second period Nevill was in the bedroom & received his first 4 shots.

There is a very slim chance a drop of blood fell from inside his face or through his pyjamas. This was not picked up in the 5 carpet samples tested. Maybe June's blood negated it.

As said it is much more likely no blood dripped from Nevill in the main bedroom.

Either way matches my thread post scenario.

[arthur]

If I argue that SC would not have been able to fend off Nevill, then it could be said if he couldn't land a blow on Jeremy then it's very conceivable, that given the early wounds he suffered, that he wasn't in any fit state to land a blow of any significanceon any person.

Then if we believe JB over the phone calls, then we have a reasonable fit Nevill, knowing Sheila has the Anschutz and has "gone berserk"...comes out of his bedroom, with the possibility that Sheila has already shot the twins and may have alreafy shot June, gets to the phone and makes the calls, then goes back upstairs to be shot without laying a finger on Sheila.

If it was JB why did he bother with the phones calls.Do the murders, get back to Head St.Back to bed.Claim he had business in town. Wait to be told. He's not stupid, so why did he,if it was him, complicate the whole thing with the phone calls. All kinds of issues about timing come into it. Police would be very suspicious as well. Think he thought the Nevill call to the police would seal the deal. Was he/is he so arrogant that he thought could put up this front and fool everybody.

Again would he be so stupid as to leave the sound moderater lying about. He must have known the thing would be contaminated as he had shot people at almost point blank range.

Again would  he be daft enough to tell Julie what he intended to do. All been said before I know but as the case is on it's last legs I can't see JB getting out anytime soon.May be he is where he deserves to be.

[Adam]

Obviously the 5 carpet samples tested would be where there was most blood. This would be where June crawled along the floor after being shot 5 times or the location where she died.

A drop of blood from Nevill would not be found. Thought they had similar blood types anyway.

[lookout]

IF it had been JB, he could have got away with the crime easily as if Arthur had said, he hadn't mentioned the phone-calls at all because there was no evidence whatsoever at the scene that JB had been present that night/ morning.

[Adam]

IF it had been JB, he could have got away with the crime easily as if Arthur had said, he hadn't mentioned the phone-calls at all because there was no evidence whatsoever at the scene that JB had been present that night/ morning.

He could have. But preferred to create the siege situation where he could spend several hours insinuating Sheila.

[lookout]

He could have. But preferred to create the siege situation where he could spend several hours insinuating Sheila.

Who in their right mind would " create a siege situation "? JB was found not to have any mental issues, so it wasn't him.
When you've finished splitting hairs and scraping the barrel I'm afraid that you'll find that I've been right all along.   

[Adam]

David's counter to the 9 shot scenario on the bedroom has been dismissed. The only other counter was from QC who said Nevill may have been awake when Bamber entered the main bedroom. 

There is no reason why Nevill would have woken from a deep sleep behind closed doors. The twins made no noise & the rifle was silent with silencer attached.

The evidence is Nevill's first two face shots were from inches away. This would not have happened if Nevill was awake when Bamber entered the main bedroom. Ditto June being shot 5 times in bed.

[Adam]

https://youtu.be/SNrlfDPC_xs

The walls and doors in a house that big would be thick. So impossible that Nevill or June would wake.

Bamber intially only fired two shots into Daniel & Nicholas.

[Adam]

After the first 11 shots, the evidence shows the straight forward scenario for the next 14.

Do not know why people try to fight it.

[Rob_]

After the first 11 shots, the evidence shows the straight forward scenario for the next 14.

Do not know why people try to fight it.

Because you have the wrong person firing the shots?

[Adam]

Because you have the wrong person firing the shots?

Still waiting for your Sheila scenario.

[David1819]

None of Nevils blood was on the main bedroom floor. Adam still believes, Jeremy (who had plenty of experience shooting) Fired 9 shots at two sleeping targets at point blank range and failed to kill them. Nevil then ran past Jeremy while containing his blood so he could spill it all outside the bedroom. That's not plausible.


While Sheila took the gun upstairs to shoot June. Nevill rang Jeremy. Nevil ended the call and ran upstairs as he heard shots being fired. Sheila had fired five shots at June. She then pivoted and shot Nevill with the remaining four bullets in the magazine as Nevill came up the stairs.


One shell casing was found a few steps down the landing. I believe three of the shell casings from shots fired a Nevil bounced off the wall, while one went passed the door frame onto the landing area. As the reconstruction below illustrates

[Adam]

None of Nevils blood was on the main bedroom floor. Adam still believes, Jeremy (who had plenty of experience shooting) Fired 9 shots at two sleeping targets at point blank range and failed to kill them. Nevil then ran past Jeremy while containing his blood so he could spill it all outside the bedroom. That's not plausible.


While Sheila took the gun upstairs to shoot June. Nevill rang Jeremy. Nevil ended the call and ran upstairs as he heard shots being fired. Sheila had fired five shots at June. She then pivoted and shot Nevill with the remaining four bullets in the magazine as Nevill came up the stairs.


One shell casing was found a few steps down the landing. I believe three of the shell casings from shots fired a Nevil bounced off the wall, while one went passed the door frame onto the landing area. As the reconstruction below illustrates

David,  Nevill did not ring Bamber after Sheila started shooting the twins.

My thread post follows the evidence.

Blood would only gush from inside Nevill's mouth & through his pyjamas within 10 seconds if he had been shot by a shot gun. In that case, Nevill would have died in the bedroom.