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Offline Adam

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Re: Jeremys slow drive to WHF
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2021, 11:03:PM »
According to point 137 of the COA judgment, there is no transcript of JBs trial testimony.

"The Appellant's Evidence at Trial

137. No transcript has survived as to the appellant's evidence in chief, although it seems clear from the summing up that it was entirely consistent with that which he had told the police. A transcript of his cross-examination is available. In cross-examination the appellant said Sheila Caffell had frequent delusions and had spoken to him of suicide.
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How can Wilkes write about JBs testimony when no transcript of it exists? Either Wilkes has made this up or the COA is wrong.

Because he is an investigative journalist who wrote an acclaimed book on the case. He also interviewed Bamber. And hundreds of other people.
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Re: Jeremys slow drive to WHF
« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2021, 11:07:PM »
Didn't Wilkes also attend some or all of the trial? It was only 10 years before his book. At the time I believe he was an investigative journalist.
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Re: Jeremys slow drive to WHF
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2021, 11:11:PM »
The police passing a very slowly driving Bamber was an unexpected blow to him.

Him saying he wanted to arrive after the police doesn't make things any worse for him. It is clear he is trying to say he was scared.
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Re: Jeremys slow drive to WHF
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2021, 11:13:PM »
I don't reference the hurry Adam. I mean his state of mind. I have met Jeremy bamber. He isn't a stupid individual. I think he would have had a flurry of emotion and the most obvious is that he was on a massive gamble. I believe the slow drive was buying himself time because he was reluctant to speak to the police. Perhaps reluctant is the wrong word. He had if guilty just murdered five people, I believe he was worried and the full reality of what he had done had hit him like a steamroller.

Its all very well planning. And having a vision like he has supposed to have killing his family for his inheritance. But I reckon after he would have been a psychological wreck. Talking from a guilty bamber scenario. He. did remarkably well to front it out in the early stages





In the "early stages" he didn't even know if anyone/ everyone was dead or alive, therefore no need to have appeared to have been a " psychological wreck ". He was sitting in a police car while things were being relayed to him. No reports by EP of him having any sort of outbursts or breakdowns, in fact the way Stan Jones approached JB with the news that they were all dead, I'm surprised Jones wasn't punched in the face seeing that JB was allegedly violent and had supposedly slaughtered all his family.
After all, if he had have thrown a punch at DS Jones, he'd have had nothing to lose would he ?? 

JB having known of the arguments that must have taken place at the farmhouse when Sheila was there, he wouldn't have known what would be facing him if Sheila had seen him approaching with the police. I think I'd have been cautious----as the police certainly were. How long were they hanging around for, 3hrs before anyone entered ? It was they who were scared, not Jeremy.

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Re: Jeremys slow drive to WHF
« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2021, 07:54:PM »




In the "early stages" he didn't even know if anyone/ everyone was dead or alive, therefore no need to have appeared to have been a " psychological wreck ". He was sitting in a police car while things were being relayed to him. No reports by EP of him having any sort of outbursts or breakdowns, in fact the way Stan Jones approached JB with the news that they were all dead, I'm surprised Jones wasn't punched in the face seeing that JB was allegedly violent and had supposedly slaughtered all his family.
After all, if he had have thrown a punch at DS Jones, he'd have had nothing to lose would he ?? 

JB having known of the arguments that must have taken place at the farmhouse when Sheila was there, he wouldn't have known what would be facing him if Sheila had seen him approaching with the police. I think I'd have been cautious----as the police certainly were. How long were they hanging around for, 3hrs before anyone entered ? It was they who were scared, not Jeremy.

You missed the point. I was looking at it from a both a gulity and innocent bamber perspective
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Re: Jeremys slow drive to WHF
« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2021, 07:55:PM »
The police passing a very slowly driving Bamber was an unexpected blow to him.

Him saying he wanted to arrive after the police doesn't make things any worse for him. It is clear he is trying to say he was scared.
I reckon he was scared. Even if gulity. He had no idea of how this was going to pan out. How could he? 
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