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Brett Collins article
« on: March 29, 2021, 09:46:AM »
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/119648317/so-my-best-friend-turned-out-to-be-a-mass-murderer

Thanks to RJ for supplying. Seemed to disappear after Bamber was arrested. Maybe he went abroad and the prosecution couldn't locate him.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Brett Collins article
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2021, 09:58:AM »
Brett was no angel and arranged the NOTW interview, where they acted like a couple of schoolboys. Suppose if Bamber was paying for everything, it was in Brett's interest to help him.
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Re: Brett Collins article
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2021, 08:01:PM »
So now we know the real reason why Jeremy was avoiding Mabel Speakman.

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Re: Brett Collins article
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2021, 08:21:PM »
Brett was no angel and arranged the NOTW interview, where they acted like a couple of schoolboys. Suppose if Bamber was paying for everything, it was in Brett's interest to help him.
Ive always said Brett knew a lot more than he had said earlier, I still think he knows even more?  It’s no surprise that Brett came over to stay with Jeremy pre murders, disappearing just before the murders and then returning straight after. 
Some quotes from Brett
When he was with me he was just the same guy. He was never ever saddened by the loss. In fact it was more like, now I can get on with my life, I've finally got my inheritance.

"I've still got a very clear memory of everything that happened and I'm now sure he staged it all on the day of the murders.

Bamber's diving trip hit a snag when he lost the $5000 in a drug deal gone awry.

Prior to departing for New Zealand, Bamber had raided his gran's safe, and pulled all the diamonds out of the precious ornaments.

Not to mention the break in at the Caravan park











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Re: Brett Collins article
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2021, 11:00:PM »
"I said to him 'what do you think happened', and he looked me in the eyes and said: 'You would not believe what happened'. Like he knew the truth."

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This is similar to Bamber saying to Liz Rimmington 'Only I know what happened that night'.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Brett Collins article
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2021, 11:43:PM »
Ive always said Brett knew a lot more than he had said earlier, I still think he knows even more?  It’s no surprise that Brett came over to stay with Jeremy pre murders, disappearing just before the murders and then returning straight after. 
Some quotes from Brett
When he was with me he was just the same guy. He was never ever saddened by the loss. In fact it was more like, now I can get on with my life, I've finally got my inheritance.

"I've still got a very clear memory of everything that happened and I'm now sure he staged it all on the day of the murders.

Bamber's diving trip hit a snag when he lost the $5000 in a drug deal gone awry.

Prior to departing for New Zealand, Bamber had raided his gran's safe, and pulled all the diamonds out of the precious ornaments.

Not to mention the break in at the Caravan park

I have made a similar comment on the other thread, before I saw this!

I completely agree - with the necessary rider that it of course depends on whether Jeremy was guilty in the first place.  But even if Jeremy is innocent, I believe Brett morally corrupted him and was the driving influence behind Jeremy's insensitive behaviour after the deaths.

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Re: Brett Collins article
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2021, 07:28:AM »
I have made a similar comment on the other thread, before I saw this!

I completely agree - with the necessary rider that it of course depends on whether Jeremy was guilty in the first place.  But even if Jeremy is innocent, I believe Brett morally corrupted him and was the driving influence behind Jeremy's insensitive behaviour after the deaths.

I am sure the 340,000 plus documentation will give clarity regarding Jeremys innocence and hopefully we will find out for sure if there was any criminality involved in securing Jeremys conviction
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: Brett Collins article
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2021, 07:32:AM »
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/119648317/so-my-best-friend-turned-out-to-be-a-mass-murderer

Thanks to RJ for supplying. Seemed to disappear after Bamber was arrested. Maybe he went abroad and the prosecution couldn't locate him.

How interesting when we are discussing ‘the truth’ Real Justice rolls out Brett Collins who has a history of fraudulent behaviour the very behaviour Julie Mugford is well known for.
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2021, 07:51:AM »
How interesting when we are discussing ‘the truth’ Real Justice rolls out Brett Collins who has a history of fraudulent behaviour the very behaviour Julie Mugford is well known for.
Nope your wrong again, Adam started the thread RJ didn’t, I gave Adam the link because he asked me for a source how I knew about Bamber’s stealing from his Grandma.  As per usual you jump in without thinking!

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Re: Brett Collins article
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2021, 08:15:AM »
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But even if Jeremy is innocent, I believe Brett morally corrupted him and was the driving influence behind Jeremy's insensitive behaviour after the deaths.
JB's relationship with Brett Collins is an interesting one. I think it's important to get a full understanding of it.
So in 1983 Jeremy ends up staying at Brett Collins place in St. Mary's Bay, Auckland, via someone he'd met in Australia. Even back then St. Mary's Bay was (& is) one of Auckland's most exclusive suburbs.

With the house having a downstairs flat it must have been worth a bit.
Collins at the time being 29 must have had a good income to be able to purchase such a property.

By selling the house to go to London and not renting it out, would indicate Collins was intending to maybe leave NZ permanantly.

So for 2 years he and Jeremy must have kept in regular touch, prior to Collins's arrival.

The 8 year age gap could indicate that Collins may have been a driving force in keeping the friendship alive.
Seeing the opportunity of doing the OE (Overseas Experience, rite of passage for Kiwis) with the financial cushion of landing in the lap of a wealthy family.

So it's not surprising that once Jeremy had his inheritance frozen, Collins would cut and run to Sydney. The then economic escape hatch of NZers. As the NZ economy tanked in the mid 1980s.
Since returning to NZ it appears Collins is now a declared bankrupt. I would say he is quite a mercenary character.
 
https://thecinemaholic.com/where-is-brett-collins-now/
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http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7210.0
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Re: Brett Collins article
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2021, 02:55:PM »
Brett Collins was what would have been classed as a " wide boy " back in his younger years, until latterly it caught up with him.

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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2021, 07:34:AM »
Brett Collins was what would have been classed as a " wide boy " back in his younger years, until latterly it caught up with him.

Is Brett Collins the only person to have mentioned Jeremy's (alleged) drug habit ?

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Re: Brett Collins article
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2021, 07:53:AM »
Is Brett Collins the only person to have mentioned Jeremy's (alleged) drug habit ?
No. Julie told police he needed cannabis and was moody without it.

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Re: Brett Collins article
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2021, 08:05:AM »
No. Julie told police he needed cannabis and was moody without it.

Course it must be true then

Julie never lied or deceived anyone
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: Brett Collins article
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2021, 08:52:AM »
No. Julie told police he needed cannabis and was moody without it.

So Julie told Police Jeremy smoked dope. As a lot of 20somethings do.
If anyone could verify Jeremy was into the more illicit stuff such as cocaine it would be Julie.