The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series - Season 1

[killingeve]

Autocorrect on a mobile device.

You'll find that I have spelt Nevill's name correctly literally hundreds of times on here, including on this thread in the posts above. 

So your pedantry is in vain.

And it's saying, not 'sayin'. 

And I don't take delight in pulling others up about such matters.  I pulled you up about your inability to use the possessive apostrophe because you are rude to me and you carry yourself around as if you know everything about the case and about the law.  Therefore, it was appropriate for me to step in and pull you down a peg, just as it was also appropriate for me to correct you on legal terminology.

People who think they know everything, rarely do, and it tends to be a sign of insecurity.

Your rudeness is despite my defence of you early on and was totally needless and unprovoked.  You are an arrogant, ignorant, rude, obnoxious lout.

 

[guest29835]

I think my response to you is dignified.

I have spelt Nevill's name correctly thousands of times on here.  You identify one typo and make something of it, continuing your campaign of rudeness.

You are noxious.  You, Adam and at times a certain other person, make posting here unpleasant and I honestly don't know why I come back here.

Of course, it must be that I am a cry baby.  It can't be that the Forum has been allowed to get out of control and you're just immature.

[Adam]

Autocorrect on a mobile device.

You'll find that I have spelt Nevill's name correctly literally hundreds of times on here, including on this thread in the posts above. 

So your pedantry is in vain.

And it's saying, not 'sayin'. 

And I don't take delight in pulling others up about such matters.  I pulled you up about your inability to use the possessive apostrophe because you are rude to me and you carry yourself around as if you know everything about the case and about the law.  Therefore, it was appropriate for me to step in and pull you down a peg, just as it was also appropriate for me to correct you on legal terminology.

People who think they know everything, rarely do, and it tends to be a sign of insecurity.

Your rudeness is despite my defence of you early on and was totally needless and unprovoked.  You are an arrogant, ignorant, rude, obnoxious lout.

I was not using Lookout as a source.  If you go back and read carefully what I said, I stated that Lookout may be correct that June was first shot on the stairs - though it could also be that I am misremembering what Lookout said.  That in itself is not important, since Lookout is not my source, it just seemed that her view about it coincidences with a possibility I am considering for this scenario in order to explain why June confronted Sheila. 

There is a bullet hole in a pillow and blood on the bed, but that does not mean June was shot first in the bed.  She may have got out of bed, then approached the landing and shouted down, then Sheila began firing at her, then she returned to the area of the bed. 

While you're here, could you be careful how to speak to myself and other members on here?  You are now calling for myself and Lookout to be banned, simply because we hold different views to your own.

I think the moderator needs to have a quiet word with you.  And with Adam.

What was June shouting at?

If she was fully fit, awake & out of bed, wouldn't she go to help Nevill. Or check on the twins.

Following the evidence shows June was asleep when Bamber entered the main bedroom, next to Nevill. June was shot 5 times in bed. Nevill twice.

[killingeve]

Not only that, Bamber never mentions his Dad had been shot for anyone who believes Bamber’s story about the phone call.

If we go by Roch and Lookout that Sheila shot Nevill because he tried to stop her joining her children, how do they account for June, did she try and stop her as well even though she had killed Nevill or vice versa?  If Sheila was that determined to join her children, why didn’t she kill herself in the same room so she could be with them in death?

Colin and his partner (Heather ?) I think said Bamber thought his father had been shot but it wasn't possible from a pathological perspective and also the complete absence of any blood on the phone. 

If Sheila wanted to murder her sons and take her own life using a firearm then she could no doubt engineer a situation when the three of them were alone in the farmhouse.  Even during the night she could enter their room and carry out the deed before Mr and Mrs Bamber realised what was happening. 

Putting aside the human tragedy its an interesting case to debate but I don't understand what amounts to a fringe element that believe Bamber is innocent. 

[killingeve]

I think my response to you is dignified.

I have spelt Nevill's name correctly thousands of times on here.  You identify one typo and make something of it, continuing your campaign of rudeness.

You are noxious.  You, Adam and at times a certain other person, make posting here unpleasant and I honestly don't know why I come back here.

Of course, it must be that I am a cry baby.  It can't be that the Forum has been allowed to get out of control and you're just immature.

 

[killingeve]

Autocorrect on a mobile device.

You'll find that I have spelt Nevill's name correctly literally hundreds of times on here, including on this thread in the posts above. 

So your pedantry is in vain.

And it's saying, not 'sayin'. 

And I don't take delight in pulling others up about such matters.  I pulled you up about your inability to use the possessive apostrophe because you are rude to me and you carry yourself around as if you know everything about the case and about the law.  Therefore, it was appropriate for me to step in and pull you down a peg, just as it was also appropriate for me to correct you on legal terminology.

People who think they know everything, rarely do, and it tends to be a sign of insecurity.

Your rudeness is despite my defence of you early on and was totally needless and unprovoked.  You are an arrogant, ignorant, rude, obnoxious lout.

I was not using Lookout as a source.  If you go back and read carefully what I said, I stated that Lookout may be correct that June was first shot on the stairs - though it could also be that I am misremembering what Lookout said.  That in itself is not important, since Lookout is not my source, it just seemed that her view about it coincidences with a possibility I am considering for this scenario in order to explain why June confronted Sheila. 

There is a bullet hole in a pillow and blood on the bed, but that does not mean June was shot first in the bed.  She may have got out of bed, then approached the landing and shouted down, then Sheila began firing at her, then she returned to the area of the bed. 

While you're here, could you be careful how to speak to myself and other members on here?  You are now calling for myself and Lookout to be banned, simply because we hold different views to your own.

I think the moderator needs to have a quiet word with you.  And with Adam.

What evidence exists that Mrs Bamber confronted Sheila?

Two bullets were found embedded in the pillow not one.

If Mrs Bamber wasn't shot in bed and whilst getting out of how do you account for the bullets embedded in the pillow (DRH 35 x2), significant bloodstains on the bedding her side and drips on the carpet which lead away from the bed to the other side and back again?  And more importantly how do you account for the cluster of casings her side of the bed DRH 6, 7, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 43 and the exited bullets DRH 35, 35, 9?

Scenarios need to match the evidence and yours is woefully lacking. 

[killingeve]

Colin and his partner (Heather ?) I think said Bamber thought his father had been shot but it wasn't possible from a pathological perspective and also the complete absence of any blood on the phone. 

If Sheila wanted to murder her sons and take her own life using a firearm then she could no doubt engineer a situation when the three of them were alone in the farmhouse.  Even during the night she could enter their room and carry out the deed before Mr and Mrs Bamber realised what was happening. 

Putting aside the human tragedy its an interesting case to debate but I don't understand what amounts to a fringe element that believe Bamber is innocent.

Yes here's the statement from Heather Amos

[Adam]

What evidence exists that Mrs Bamber confronted Sheila?

Two bullets were found embedded in the pillow not one.

If Mrs Bamber wasn't shot in bed and whilst getting out of how do you account for the bullets embedded in the pillow (DRH 35 x2), significant bloodstains on the bedding her side and drips on the carpet which lead away from the bed to the other side and back again?  And more importantly how do you account for the cluster of casings her side of the bed DRH 6, 7, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 43 and the exited bullets DRH 35, 35, 9?

Scenarios need to match the evidence and yours is woefully lacking.

Have you seen my Bamber scenario?

Recently updated to include the back burning.

It differs from CAL's. There is more than one Bamber scenario which matches the crime scene evidence.

[guest7363]

Yes here's the statement from Heather Amos

Yes thanks, I can remember that.  Bamber would change his story depending on the audience he had. 

[JackieD]

Yes thanks, I can remember that.  Bamber would change his story depending on the audience he had.

Same as David Boutflour, Barbara Wilson Brett Collins and the list goes on

[lookout]

And even the police themselves 

[guest7363]

Same as David Boutflour, Barbara Wilson Brett Collins and the list goes on

I agree, Bamber is a typical Psychopath who would change his story to try and cover up his lies,  he would rework his story to fit his lies or the situation.  Brett probably realises now.

[lookout]

Bews ran as though his behind was on fire at the " trick of the light !" Big wuss.

[Rob_]

What evidence exists that Mrs Bamber confronted Sheila?

Two bullets were found embedded in the pillow not one.

If Mrs Bamber wasn't shot in bed and whilst getting out of how do you account for the bullets embedded in the pillow (DRH 35 x2), significant bloodstains on the bedding her side and drips on the carpet which lead away from the bed to the other side and back again?  And more importantly how do you account for the cluster of casings her side of the bed DRH 6, 7, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 43 and the exited bullets DRH 35, 35, 9?

Scenarios need to match the evidence and yours is woefully lacking.

I quite like QC's scenario Cc, though I myself think the first shot was a accident Sheila waving the gun around not realising it was loaded hitting Nevil in the arm? and there is also room for Roch's theory as well.

The guilters have to be honest and explain why Nevil ran past the shooter in the bedroom and left his family to their fate? He would never do this the fight would have been upstairs. Also how does the shooter get Sheila to cooperate to take the shot knowing her children are next or already shot?

[Rob_]

Bews ran as though his behind was on fire at the " trick of the light !" Big wuss.

It's not just that he ran Lookout he changes his version of events every time he give's a interview.