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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series - Season 1
« Reply #1170 on: November 11, 2021, 08:02:PM »
So you keep saying, Polly.

Well I have to keep repeating myself in an attempt to get through to you people!

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« Reply #1171 on: November 11, 2021, 08:07:PM »
An appellant is a type of litigant.

Here's the court of appeal doc.  Bamber is referred to as appellant as that is what he is.  If he was a litigant it would say as much.

http://www.homepage-link.to/justice/judgements/Bamber/index.html

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« Reply #1172 on: November 11, 2021, 08:15:PM »
Here's the court of appeal doc.  Bamber is referred to as appellant as that is what he is.  If he was a litigant it would say as much.

http://www.homepage-link.to/justice/judgements/Bamber/index.html
Doesn't the appellant make an appeal? If Jeremy was suing cousin Ann he would be a litigant.

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« Reply #1173 on: November 11, 2021, 08:24:PM »
Here's the court of appeal doc.  Bamber is referred to as appellant as that is what he is.  If he was a litigant it would say as much.

http://www.homepage-link.to/justice/judgements/Bamber/index.html

I repeat: an appellant is a type of litigant. 

For the benefit of both you and Steve, the term 'litigant' can apply generically to criminal proceedings as well as civil.

I also stress again that I did not use the term 'litigant' in the post to which you referred, but there is civil litigation and there is criminal litigation, and there are criminal litigants and civil litigants, and some criminal litigants are defendants, some are appellants, and so on.

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« Reply #1174 on: November 11, 2021, 08:45:PM »
Doesn't the appellant make an appeal? If Jeremy was suing cousin Ann he would be a litigant.

Yes.

An appellant is someone who applies to a higher court for a reversal of the decision of a lower court.

If Bamber's conviction is ever overturned he could enter into litigation with cousin Ann over the estate and would then be a litigant.


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« Reply #1175 on: November 11, 2021, 08:48:PM »
Yes.

An appellant is someone who applies to a higher court for a reversal of the decision of a lower court.

If Bamber's conviction is ever overturned he could enter into litigation with cousin Ann over the estate and would then be a litigant.
Didn't he drag her to a hearing at HMP Full Sutton several years back I believe..

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« Reply #1176 on: November 11, 2021, 08:59:PM »
Didn't he drag her to a hearing at HMP Full Sutton several years back I believe..

Yes something to do with the estate I think.  In this case he was a litigant. 

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« Reply #1177 on: November 11, 2021, 09:05:PM »
Yes something to do with the estate I think.  In this case he was a litigant.
The podcasts never discuss these details. They are glossed over, albeit as much as Yvonne Hartley with her charisma and charm skills can gloss over anything.

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« Reply #1178 on: November 11, 2021, 09:10:PM »
The podcasts never discuss these details. They are glossed over, albeit as much as Yvonne Hartley with her charisma and charm skills can gloss over anything.

Here it is

https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/killer-bamber-sues-family-again-7447596

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« Reply #1179 on: November 11, 2021, 09:20:PM »
The podcasts never discuss these details. They are glossed over, albeit as much as Yvonne Hartley with her charisma and charm skills can gloss over anything.

Producing podcasts which are disabled for feedback is an altogether different ball game compared with entering into live debate on forums.

Yvonne has gone from sitting around with like minded people in a group hug all patting each other on the back to the bear pit of the commission.  If the submission fails I wonder how she will emerge?

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« Reply #1180 on: November 11, 2021, 09:47:PM »
Sadly I've found those supporting JB need a good kick up the behind. The times I've felt frustrated at their snail-like movements to get things underway has sometimes left me feeling quite despondent.
Why is there no " go " in anyone any more ?  My own approach would have been far more forthright.  It mightn't have been the right way, but for heaven's sake act as though you mean business.

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« Reply #1181 on: November 11, 2021, 09:49:PM »
Here it is

https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/killer-bamber-sues-family-again-7447596
He owned 8% of the shares of the caravan park before the killings. But was he by law entitled to directors' fees and bonuses?

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« Reply #1182 on: November 11, 2021, 09:52:PM »
Producing podcasts which are disabled for feedback is an altogether different ball game compared with entering into live debate on forums.

Yvonne has gone from sitting around with like minded people in a group hug all patting each other on the back to the bear pit of the commission.  If the submission fails I wonder how she will emerge?
Well you did rather put your finger on it when you described the whole thing as "a circus".

I wonder who is the ringleader and who is the clown..

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« Reply #1183 on: November 11, 2021, 09:54:PM »
Sadly I've found those supporting JB need a good kick up the behind. The times I've felt frustrated at their snail-like movements to get things underway has sometimes left me feeling quite despondent.
Why is there no " go " in anyone any more ?  My own approach would have been far more forthright.  It mightn't have been the right way, but for heaven's sake act as though you mean business.
I agree lookout and Roch made a similar point a few days ago. If I were on your side I'd say it's time to clean the Augean stable.

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« Reply #1184 on: November 11, 2021, 10:02:PM »
Well you did rather put your finger on it when you described the whole thing as "a circus".

I wonder who is the ringleader and who is the clown..

Yes I wonder too  :-\

We have Bamber, Yvonne and Phillip and then the elusive Sarah who seems to be camera and publicity shy but might be pulling all the strings  :-\