The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series - Season 1

[Adam]

I didn't know that.  This is worse than the jet skis mistake.  Oh well.  Back to the drawing board.  Anyway, thanks Adam.

But he told her.  Why did he tell her if he feared she might break under police pressure?

He told her MM did it. Which the police would find out is wrong if she did approach the police. This is better than her saying Bamber left his cottage at 1am for 2 hours.

After the previous 6 months it would not be hard for her to work out he was involved. 

[guest29835]

He told her MM did it.

No, he didn't.  Jeremy told her that MM did it, to the order of Jeremy.  In other words, and assuming Julie was telling the truth, Jeremy was confessing to Julie - and in fact, that was her whole value as a witness.  Thus, my question stands. 

[Adam]

No, he didn't.  Jeremy told her that MM did it, to the order of Jeremy.  In other words, and assuming Julie was telling the truth, Jeremy was confessing to Julie - and in fact, that was her whole value as a witness.  Thus, my question stands.

'Jeremy told her that MM did it, to the order of Jeremy.  In other words,   Jeremy was confessing to Julie'

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I agree. Thanks QC.

[guest29835]

'Jeremy told her that MM did it, to the order of Jeremy.  In other words,   Jeremy was confessing to Julie'

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I agree. Thanks QC.

No problem, Adam.  I'm glad I've made up for my mistakes with the jet skis and Brett.  You need to put in a good word for me at the CCRC to make up for not recommending me for the CT.  I'm sulking about that.

[Steve_uk]

Julie corrupting Jeremy need not have included a murder plot, though it could have done.  I only speculate.  If they were in it together, maybe the call wasn't part of their plan and Jeremy added that on his own initiative, due to Nevill ending up in the kitchen?

Conversely, your question could be put to Jeremy.  If he is guilty, how is it that he didn't think to persuade Julie (or Brett) to stay at his place so that there was somebody to vouch for him?  Brett makes a similar point in the podcast.  Jeremy, according to Brett, was a "very intelligent guy", which leaves Brett perplexed that Jeremy would plan something like this without constructing an alibi.

The police were effectively his alibi. He gambled that they wouldn't reckon on him being able to commit the crimes within the timeline he devised.

[Steve_uk]

I didn't know that.  This is worse than the jet skis mistake.  Oh well.  Back to the drawing board.  Anyway, thanks Adam.

But he told her.  Why did he tell her if he feared she might break under police pressure?

..because he thought he had enough ammunition to tie her in as an accessory.

[guest29835]

The police were effectively his alibi. He gambled that they wouldn't reckon on him being able to commit the crimes within the timeline he devised.

If he is guilty, then yes I suppose Brett didn't get that quite right because Jeremy was counting on the police believing that they were outside the property while Sheila was still alive.

[guest29835]

..because he thought he had enough ammunition to tie her in as an accessory.

Thanks Steve.

[lookout]

Just finished listening to another podcast with Philip Walker and Yvonne. This time about Julie Mugford.

[lookout]

Programme tomorrow night, Thursday about WHF on Ch5 at 10.30pm.

[Roch]

Programme tomorrow night, Thursday about WHF on Ch5 at 10.30pm.

I couldn't sit through that. It's Crimes that Shook with some defence snippets thrown in. It was on last year. Awful to sit through just to wait for some defence scraps.

[JackieD]

A few questions re the Mugford podcast

1)
What dates did the drug smuggling by Mugford take place?
Was this before she knew Jeremy
2) was there any proof Mugford was actually engaged to JB
3) it it true there were 13 separate cheque frauds
4) Liz Riminington was clearly not an honest person if she slept with her best friends boyfriend
5) Liz rimmington clearly would have an axe to grind with JB if she was dumped after a one night stand
6) why were Mugfords witness statements not used in court considering there importance

[Adam]

A few questions re the Mugford podcast

1)
What dates did the drug smuggling by Mugford take place?
Was this before she knew Jeremy
2) was there any proof Mugford was actually engaged to JB
3) it it true there were 13 separate cheque frauds
4) Liz Riminington was clearly not an honest person if she slept with her best friends boyfriend
5) Liz rimmington clearly would have an axe to grind with JB if she was dumped after a one night stand
6) why were Mugfords witness statements not used in court considering there importance

Drug smuggling?

Bamber smuggled drugs from Amsterdam as stated in Julie's WS. She was still with him after Bamber had got a police car to bring her to WHF.

Her final WS is what the defence went by. As is the case in all trials.

There was one minor cheque book offence. Committed with Susan Battersby. The money was paid back.

[JackieD]

A few questions re the Mugford podcast

1)
What dates did the drug smuggling by Mugford take place?
Was this before she knew Jeremy
2) was there any proof Mugford was actually engaged to JB
3) it it true there were 13 separate cheque frauds
4) Liz Riminington was clearly not an honest person if she slept with her best friends boyfriend
5) Liz rimmington clearly would have an axe to grind with JB if she was dumped after a one night stand
6) why were Mugfords witness statements not used in court considering there importance

Roch I want to get to the bottom of the above?

Mugford must be more of a nutter than I thought if she made up being engaged
Yvonne talks about Mugford into Drug smuggling before she even met Jeremy?
The minor cheque fraud Adam talks about was actually on 13 seperate occasions
Surely this all points to Mugford instigating the caravan robbery?
Unbelievable that she was ever allowed to be a teacher
Liz Rimmington hardly a reliable witness and master of deception sleeping with her best friends boyfriend

JB didn’t stand a chance surrounded by Brett the conman and the two twisted women?

[Adam]

Roch I want to get to the bottom of the above?

Mugford must be more of a nutter than I thought if she made up being engaged
Yvonne talks about Mugford into Drug smuggling before she even met Jeremy?
The minor cheque fraud Adam talks about was actually on 13 seperate occasions
Surely this all points to Mugford instigating the caravan robbery?
Unbelievable that she was ever allowed to be a teacher
Liz Rimmington hardly a reliable witness and master of deception sleeping with her best friends boyfriend

JB didn’t stand a chance surrounded by Brett the conman and the two twisted women?

Julie was smuggling drugs before she met Bamber? Was it to Columbia? She must have been a devious teenager. But Yvonne knows best.

Bamber said himself in the police interviews they spoke about marriage.

Need to see a source of 13 separate occasions. Yvonne will automatically say this as she supports Bamber.

Not sure how any of this negates to evidence.