The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series - Season 1

[guest7363]

It sows the seeds of doubt. Espescially as there was only one alive suspect.

Do you mean also one living family member who was going to inherit everything?

[guest29835]

Bamber didn't pay the money back or was in the process of doing so.

I know.  That's the whole point I'm making.

[guest29835]

Didn't Neville pay it back and Bamber was supposedly going to pay Neville?  Not quite sure now.

What's your source for this?  This is important.

[guest7363]

What's your source for this?  This is important.

It just stuck in my head QC but I can’t for the life of me think where?  I will have a look later see if I can find anything?  I’m pretty certain Neville paid it back to save face?

[Adam]

I know.  That's the whole point I'm making.

Rephase.

He didn't pay the money back.

He wasn't in the process of paying the money back.

[guest29835]

Rephase.

He didn't pay the money back.

He wasn't in the process of paying the money back.

Yes, I know.  That's exactly what I mean.  The point is that, as far as I can see, there was no realistic basis for him to ask the judge to make an 'effective good character' direction to the jury.

Maybe the defence could have argued for excluding mention of the theft altogether, as it wasn't strictly relevant to establishing whether Jeremy actually committed the murders, but I think Rivlin, Q.C., would have been on stony ground with that sort of argument.

[Adam]

Yes, I know.  That's exactly what I mean.  The point is that, as far as I can see, there was no realistic basis for him to ask the judge to make an 'effective good character' direction to the jury.

Maybe the defence could have argued for excluding mention of the theft altogether, as it wasn't strictly relevant to establishing whether Jeremy actually committed the murders, but I think Rivlin, Q.C., would have been on stony ground with that sort of argument.

The judge in his summing up said both Jeremy & Julie had committed crimes in the past. But that does not mean either lied at trial.

The judge also said Julie had paid the money back. Jeremy hadn't.

[guest29835]

The judge in his summing up said both Jeremy & Julie had committed crimes in the past. But that does not mean either lied at trial.

The judge also said Julie had paid the money back. Jeremy hadn't.

Did Julie pay back the caravan park then? 

[Adam]

Did Julie pay back the caravan park then?

Just the cheque book fraud.

[Steve_uk]

Didn't Neville pay it back and Bamber was supposedly going to pay Neville?  Not quite sure now.

No. Jeremy persuaded his father to leave the money in the safe instead of taking it to the bank.

[guest7363]

No. Jeremy persuaded his father to leave the money in the safe instead of taking it to the bank.

Ok Steve, I found this from Adam in an earlier post,  Barbara Wilson said the family knew about the caravan break in. Neville probably suspected and Jeremy admitted it, confident it would be kept private. This would have further strained relations within the family.

I thought I’d read somewhere that his Father paid the money back and Jeremy was supposed to repay his father?

[Steve_uk]

Ok Steve, I found this from Adam in an earlier post,  Barbara Wilson said the family knew about the caravan break in. Neville probably suspected and Jeremy admitted it, confident it would be kept private. This would have further strained relations within the family.

I thought I’d read somewhere that his Father paid the money back and Jeremy was supposed to repay his father?

Nevill may have confronted his son, but we don't know for sure. I suspect Nevill told his wife about the rumour Jeremy was responsible because she stopped writing personal cheques in her son's favour from thereon in, thus effectively signing her own death warrant.

[Adam]

Maybe Nevill & June had decided Jeremy should pay them back by making them breakfast in bed for the next 6 months. A fry up of course.

[guest29835]

Maybe Nevill & June had decided Jeremy should pay them back by making them breakfast in bed for the next 6 months. A fry up of course.

Thanks Adam.  This is new information.

It could be that Stan got jealous and asked Jeremy to cook him a fry up as well, and when Jeremy refused, Stan took offence and that set the ball rolling.

One for the CCRC, I think.

[Adam]

Thanks Adam.  This is new information.

It could be that Stan got jealous and asked Jeremy to cook him a fry up as well, and when Jeremy refused, Stan took offence and that set the ball rolling.

One for the CCRC, I think.

Maybe Nevill and June thought Jeremy needed more focus in life. So decided he must drive June to & join her at bible classes for the next 6 months.