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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #60 on: March 26, 2021, 12:20:PM »
This years submission will be focusing on technicalities to claim the conviction was unsafe, rather than proving him innocent.

I didn't know that.  Thanks Adam.

If ever released Bamber can say he's innocent and do the media/showbiz circuit.

He will be well known enough & get enough financial offers to live the life style he craved in the 1980's. This will have been a motivation to campaign for freedom since 1986.

It's not all it's cracked up to be, though, Adam.  Somebody still has to clean the indoor pool and it's normally left to Joe Muggins when the butler's off.  Then there's all those glossy portrait photos to autograph - hundreds a day in my case.  The only consolation there is that it means I get to look at my handsome face every day.  But I still have to take the jet ski in for servicing and you should have seen the funny looks I got last year when I told them I'd wrecked it trying to use it on the Essex roads.

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« Reply #61 on: March 26, 2021, 12:30:PM »
Are you positive Bill about the submissions or do you think there will continue to be cover ups. Is it best to keep the submissions (and all now disclosed evidence ) secret or shouldn’t this all be rolled out to the media channels making it harder for the CCRC to whitewash everything
Working with Yvonne Hartley for 5-6 years on the materials released in 2011, I can confirm that an entirely new narrative of evidence emerged, challenging every assumption held in the case. Time after time as we probed the new materials an aspect of the prosecutions case was revealed to be false. As far as releasing the materials it won’t happen until after the CCRC have referred the case to the court of appeal. The problem with the media is that they seem incapable of reporting anything accurately. Even those newspapers sympathetic to Jeremy tend to get the facts wrong. So, I guess that maybe it is wise to keep the new evidence confidential until after the CCRC have had a chance to evaluate it.

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« Reply #62 on: March 26, 2021, 12:34:PM »
Have you actually seen and read through the CCRC submission?
No, the actual submission was written by the lawyers, but I did research the materials used for the submission for 6 years and I know pretty much what the submissions are based on.

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« Reply #63 on: March 26, 2021, 01:14:PM »
Why do you believe the police created the industrial frame department?

Do you believe the relatives or police fabricated the silencer?

What order do you believe Sheila killed the family?
I don’t know what an industrial frame department is. The conspiracy to convict Jeremy would have consisted of a few people, with Ainsley masterminding the plot. Many others who provided evidence may not have realized that they were contributing to the framing of Jeremy.

A combination of the relatives, primarily RWB, with the implicit approval of Ainsley.

In my opinion Sheila killed the twins, then June and finally Nevill but I don’t suppose that will ever be known for certain.

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« Reply #64 on: March 26, 2021, 01:14:PM »
Working with Yvonne Hartley for 5-6 years on the materials released in 2011, I can confirm that an entirely new narrative of evidence emerged, challenging every assumption held in the case. Time after time as we probed the new materials an aspect of the prosecutions case was revealed to be false. As far as releasing the materials it won’t happen until after the CCRC have referred the case to the court of appeal. The problem with the media is that they seem incapable of reporting anything accurately. Even those newspapers sympathetic to Jeremy tend to get the facts wrong. So, I guess that maybe it is wise to keep the new evidence confidential until after the CCRC have had a chance to evaluate it.





I can certainly understand that Bill.

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« Reply #65 on: March 26, 2021, 01:22:PM »
Regarding the phone-calls, that part of the case isn't difficult to fathom out anyway and initially the urgent call that Nevill made would automatically have been recorded/ taped as are all emergency calls.
Essex police cocked up between both Jeremy and his father.

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Re: The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series
« Reply #66 on: March 26, 2021, 01:23:PM »
Working with Yvonne Hartley for 5-6 years on the materials released in 2011, I can confirm that an entirely new narrative of evidence emerged, challenging every assumption held in the case. Time after time as we probed the new materials an aspect of the prosecutions case was revealed to be false. As far as releasing the materials it won’t happen until after the CCRC have referred the case to the court of appeal. The problem with the media is that they seem incapable of reporting anything accurately. Even those newspapers sympathetic to Jeremy tend to get the facts wrong. So, I guess that maybe it is wise to keep the new evidence confidential until after the CCRC have had a chance to evaluate it.


Thank you Bill that’s all good to hear🤞🤞🤞
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #67 on: March 26, 2021, 01:24:PM »
I don’t know what an industrial frame department is. The conspiracy to convict Jeremy would have consisted of a few people, with Ainsley masterminding the plot. Many others who provided evidence may not have realized that they were contributing to the framing of Jeremy.

A combination of the relatives, primarily RWB, with the implicit approval of Ainsley.

In my opinion Sheila killed the twins, then June and finally Nevill but I don’t suppose that will ever be known for certain.

Bill are any of the police involved still alive?
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #68 on: March 26, 2021, 01:25:PM »
Bill are any of the police involved still alive?
Michael Ainsley is

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« Reply #69 on: March 26, 2021, 01:32:PM »
I didn't know that.  Thanks Adam.

It's not all it's cracked up to be, though, Adam.  Somebody still has to clean the indoor pool and it's normally left to Joe Muggins when the butler's off.  Then there's all those glossy portrait photos to autograph - hundreds a day in my case.  The only consolation there is that it means I get to look at my handsome face every day.  But I still have to take the jet ski in for servicing and you should have seen the funny looks I got last year when I told them I'd wrecked it trying to use it on the Essex roads.

Just correcting Bill.

Thanks QC.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #70 on: March 26, 2021, 01:54:PM »
Michael Ainsley is

That’s handy, would he be fit to stand trial
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #71 on: March 26, 2021, 01:56:PM »
I don’t know what an industrial frame department is. The conspiracy to convict Jeremy would have consisted of a few people, with Ainsley masterminding the plot. Many others who provided evidence may not have realized that they were contributing to the framing of Jeremy.

A combination of the relatives, primarily RWB, with the implicit approval of Ainsley.

In my opinion Sheila killed the twins, then June and finally Nevill but I don’t suppose that will ever be known for certain.

At what stage did Nevill call Jeremy & the police?

An industrial frame is police, experts, friends, relatives and the legal system working together to frame someone.

Do you not believe Sheila's blood ended up in the silencer from her two contact shots?

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« Reply #72 on: March 26, 2021, 02:34:PM »
At what stage did Nevill call Jeremy & the police?

An industrial frame is police, experts, friends, relatives and the legal system working together to frame someone.

Do you not believe Sheila's blood ended up in the silencer from her two contact shots?

It’s confidential
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #73 on: March 26, 2021, 03:00:PM »
That’s handy, would he be fit to stand trial
I believe that he is well enough although I suspect that at present he will be a worried chap.

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« Reply #74 on: March 26, 2021, 03:04:PM »

Do you not believe Sheila's blood ended up in the silencer from her two contact shots?
No of course not. There was no silencer on the rifle during the killings.