The Official Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm Podcast Series - Season 1

[guest7363]

I quite like QC's scenario Cc, though I myself think the first shot was a accident Sheila waving the gun around not realising it was loaded hitting Nevil in the arm? and there is also room for Roch's theory as well.

The guilters have to be honest and explain why Nevil ran past the shooter in the bedroom and left his family to their fate? He would never do this the fight would have been upstairs. Also how does the shooter get Sheila to cooperate to take the shot knowing her children are next or already shot?

If the shooter was Sheila he would have tried and easily disarmed her, but because it was Bamber and he’d taken four shots his only option was to go downstairs probably to where the other guns were kept or to the phone?

You say you think the first shot was an accident, if he’d only took an accidental shot to the arm he would have took the rifle off Sheila,  what about the other seven and the over kill?

[lookout]

It's not just that he ran Lookout he changes his version of events every time he give's a interview.

That video of him is so put-on it hurts. You can tell he's lying.

[Rob_]

Have you seen my Bamber scenario?

Recently updated to include the back burning.

It differs from CAL's. There is more than one Bamber scenario which matches the crime scene evidence.

"Recently updated to include the back burning" Please can you update it so it's at least plausible, mine had some flaws as you kindly pointed out, yours has holes that would sink the Titanic!

[guest7363]

I quite like QC's scenario Cc, though I myself think the first shot was a accident Sheila waving the gun around not realising it was loaded hitting Nevil in the arm? and there is also room for Roch's theory as well.

The guilters have to be honest and explain why Nevil ran past the shooter in the bedroom and left his family to their fate? He would never do this the fight would have been upstairs. Also how does the shooter get Sheila to cooperate to take the shot knowing her children are next or already shot?

Your not making sense, if someone shoots someone by accident, they don’t shoot them another seven times and batter them?

[Adam]

"Recently updated to include the back burning" Please can you update it so it's at least plausible, mine had some flaws as you kindly pointed out, yours has holes that would sink the Titanic!

Your scenario had 34 flaws.

You addressed 4. When I say addressed, you responded but did not resolve the flaws.

You then said 'a Sheila scenario is not important'.

[Adam]

Rob's criticism of my Bamber scenario -

It was dark outside.

[Adam]

Your not making sense, if someone shoots someone by accident, they don’t shoot them another seven times and batter them?

Rob is struggling again.

[Adam]

If the shooter was Sheila he would have tried and easily disarmed her, but because it was Bamber and he’d taken four shots his only option was to go downstairs probably to where the other guns were kept or to the phone?

You say you think the first shot was an accident, if he’d only took an accidental shot to the arm he would have took the rifle off Sheila,  what about the other seven and the over kill?

That is all straight forward and plausible.

Unless you are a Bamber supporter.

[Rob_]

If the shooter was Sheila he would have tried and easily disarmed her, but because it was Bamber and he’d taken four shots his only option was to go downstairs probably to where the other guns were kept or to the phone?

You say you think the first shot was an accident, if he’d only took an accidental shot to the arm he would have took the rifle off Sheila,  what about the other seven and the over kill?

Something sent her into meltdown, the gun goes off and she runs upstairs so I can see room for Roch's theory here. But I don't know, to me the crime scene is the work of someone who has lost it?

[Rob_]

That is all straight forward and plausible.

Unless you are a Bamber supporter.

I follow the evidence Adam, and it's not plausible Nevil ran past the shooter in the bedroom so please re-submit a better scenario.

[Adam]

Something sent her into meltdown, the gun goes off and she runs upstairs so I can see room for Roch's theory here. But I don't know, to me the crime scene is the work of someone who has lost it?

The gun goes off.

You can say that again. Nevill was shot twice in the face from inches away in the main bedroom.

[Adam]

I follow the evidence Adam, and it's not plausible Nevil ran past the shooter in the bedroom so please re-submit a better scenario.

In your view it is not plausible.

Nevill was being shot at. In the face and body. A natural reaction to run.

It is also possible Bamber went downstairs to re load & Nevill followed to try to stop him returning upstairs.

[guest7363]

In your view it is not plausible.

Nevill was being shot at. In the face and body. A natural reaction to run.

It is also possible Bamber went downstairs to re load & Nevill followed to try to stop him returning upstairs.

Or he went down stairs knowing full well the shooter would follow him to stop him phoning or arming himself.  It was his only way to try and save the rest of the family having took four shots himself.

[Rob_]

Rob is struggling again.

There are many reason's she respected Nevil did not intend to hurt him, perhaps she thought shooting Nevil meant she would be denied access to her children who knows?

Who would run past the shooter? no one!

[Adam]

Or he went down stairs knowing full well the shooter would follow him to stop him phoning or arming himself.  It was his only way to try and save the rest of the family having took four shots himself.

Bamber was on June's side of the bed during his 9 shots. So plenty of room for Nevill to get through the bedroom door.

Nevill just had an instant natural self preservation reaction after receiving 4 shots.