Author Topic: BREAKING NEWS - SECRET BLOOD TESTS ON GUNS TRIGGER GUARD FOR BLOOD DEPOSITS !!!  (Read 4805 times)

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AFTER YEARS OF PAINSTAKING RESEARCH, EVIDENCE HAS BEEN DISCOVERED THAT THE EXISTSENCE 0F PREVIOUSLY UNDISCLOSED FORENSIC/PHOTOGRAPHIC/BLOOD GROUP/ DNA (APPLICABLE AFTER THE DATE OF ARREST/CONVICTION AND SENTENCE) EVIDENCE THAT ESTABLISHES WHO FIRED THE .22 ANSHUZT RIFLE DURING THE SHOOTING INCIDENTS, BACKED UP BY PHOTOGRAPHIC (POLICE) EVIDENCE WHICH WAS CONCEALED FROM THE JURY/COURT AT THE TIME OF JEREMY BAMBERS OCTOBER, 1986 CHELMSFORD CROWN COURT TRIAL ...
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LINK THAT/THIS TO THE FOLLOWING:-
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How astonishing that one of the relatives (David Boutflourj), in particular, refers to a trigger guard mark which he claims he saw on Jeremys index finger at the time  of the shootings, or very shortly thereafter?

Jeremy Bamber has cuts on his hands, and he suggests to the police that they submit the rifle to forensics to have the weapons trigger guard for blood!
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How odd that there has never yet been any disclosure regarding this important matter?

The main focus of this particular thread rests upon and with/to the fact that anyone who handled that rifle during any part of the shooting incident, would probably had got cuts to their hands/ fingers - such marks which could have been made by (for example) the shooters index finger, getting a cut (s) from it coming into contact with the trigger guard of the gun, whilst tyhey were shooting victims dead!

Quite extraordinarily, it (that/this) favours Bamber that on the morning when the police commenced their investigation into these shootings, the police officer who was taking Jeremy Bambers first witness statement (7th August 1985), paid particular interest to Bambers hands and fingers, and confirms that at that stage Jeremy Bambers hands / fingers were uninjured and cut free...
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Quite extraordinarily, it (that/this) favours Bamber that on the morning when the police commenced their investigation into these shootings, the police officer who was taking Jeremy Bambers first witness statement (7th August 1985), paid particular interest to Bambers hands and fingers, and confirms that at that stage Jeremy Bambers hands / fingers were uninjured and cut free...

By the time the case came to trial (October, 1986), the prosecution/police were deceiving the jury to the effect that Sheila Caffells hands /fingers were spotlessly clean of blood, and uninjured..

With this in mind, all photographs taken at the scene by one police officer or another which showed a view of Sheila's right hand/fingers remained undisclosed to those representing Jeremy Bambers interests..

There was no bloodstaining, or marks on any part of her hands/fingers which could/ would give 'a very strong clue' as to the identity of the shooter of the gun (rifle) during this shooting tragedy..

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There was no bloodstaining, or marks on any part of her hands/fingers which could/ would give 'a very strong clue' as to the identity of the shooter of the gun (rifle) during this shooting tragedy..

a few decades later, photographic images that police took of Sheila Caffells feet and hands showed that her feet were bloodstained, and there was a cut on the index finger of her right hand, which was caused by her persistently activating the trigger of the gun which resulted in the trigger guard cutting her right index finger..
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Its quiet shockingly the amount of lies the relatives told the police and the jury in order to incriminate JB. It makes it as plain as a pikestaff that they contaminated the silencer. And its a travesty they still get away with it to this day.

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Its quiet shockingly the amount of lies the relatives told the police and the jury in order to incriminate JB. It makes it as plain as a pikestaff that they contaminated the silencer. And its a travesty they still get away with it to this day.

It's nice to be able to agree on something.

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Why did David Boutflour introduce the false claim that Jeremy had got cuts on his hand that were said to have been made by the trigger guard of the anshuzt rifle? What did he know what only the police and the pathologist Peter Venezis knew? Why did David Boutflour wait until the 14th and the 16th September 1985 before introducing such a lie?

anyone who had allegedly fired that rifle a total of 25 times would almost certainly have got marks or small cuts on the hand / fingers that they activated the trigger with. It would be relatively easy to match such cuts or marks to the trigger guard had Jeremy been responsible for using the gun as alleged. But, he didn't have any such cuts, or marks on his hands or fingers. But the police had evidence that Sheila Caffell did in the form of a crime scene photograph, which they secreted away as part of 'The Senior Investigating Officers Album'which was kept locked away in ACC Peter Simpsons office safe with instruction that no-one could get access mto it without permission from him...

Here is a copy of that particular crime scene photograph, showing a series of cuts and marks on her index finger and the top part of her right hand in the region between thumb and index finger. The police had this evidence which was sufficient for them to be sure that Sheila had handled and fired that rifle. But they hid it away, and instead opted for David Boutflour to make the false claim that Jeremy had got such cuts and marks on his hands on the very morning of the shootings...



Sheila had the cuts and marks on her right hand and index finger (as photographed at the scene with her body insitu, versus the false claim introduced in witness statements made by David Boutflour, dated 14th September and 16th September 1985  that Jeremy had got the very same cuts and marks caused by rapid/repeat use of the trigger mechanism of the gun, in particular, by coming into direct contact with the guns trigger guard...



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It's nice to be able to agree on something.

I thought you believed Ainsley and dark forces in EP were behind it?

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I thought you believed Ainsley and dark forces in EP were behind it?

One set of officers were prepared to go along with the ACC's wishes, which were brought about by Robert's persistence. Ainsley and Robert got on well. One set of officers ended up in cahoots with the family. One or two family members suspecting Jeremy snowballed in to three or four etc. I believe that their suspicions were fed by self interest and prejudices. The police were also prejudiced. 

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AFTER YEARS OF PAINSTAKING RESEARCH, EVIDENCE HAS BEEN DISCOVERED THAT THE EXISTENCE 0F PREVIOUSLY UNDISCLOSED FORENSIC/PHOTOGRAPHIC/BLOOD GROUP/ DNA (APPLICABLE AFTER THE DATE OF ARREST/CONVICTION AND SENTENCE) EVIDENCE THAT ESTABLISHES WHO FIRED THE .22 ANSHUZT RIFLE DURING THE SHOOTING INCIDENTS, BACKED UP BY PHOTOGRAPHIC (POLICE) EVIDENCE WHICH WAS CONCEALED FROM THE JURY/COURT AT THE TIME OF JEREMY BAMBERS OCTOBER, 1986 CHELMSFORD CROWN COURT TRIAL ...

Thank you
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Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Didn't AE also point out to someone that there was a cut on JB's hand ? Or was it AP who'd pointed it out ?
As if surmising that it came from an injury while " struggling with his father " .

The only injury of the index finger that I recollect was the one RWB had, of which was never spoken about.

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Mike, regarding this:
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10501.0.html

Vanezis was drawn to comment upon some of those marks by Drake. He is invited by Drake to give an opinion and he (Vanezis) uses this to dismiss the marks as smears or smudging. The exchange seems almost contrived.
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One set of officers were prepared to go along with the ACC's wishes, which were brought about by Robert's persistence. Ainsley and Robert got on well. One set of officers ended up in cahoots with the family. One or two family members suspecting Jeremy snowballed in to three or four etc. I believe that their suspicions were fed by self interest and prejudices. The police were also prejudiced.

Who do you believe contaminated the sound moderator?