The Silenced Rifle Did Not Fit Inside The Gun Cupboard

[Jane]

I don't know about not being an easy decision , he'd seemed Hell-bent on his " domestic " verdict and stuck to it before making his way to the golf-course ?

From memory, and the information may be erroneous, it was his day off and he wasn't happy to be called in. I'm guessing that it sounded like four murders and a suicide, it looked like four murders and a suicide, ergo it WAS four murders and a suicide. Perhaps, had he spent a bit longer at the soc/asked more questions, OR, if he'd listened to those who had, his conclusion might have been different. I suspect he MAY have found himself having those thoughts. He put himself in a position it was very hard to back down from.

[lookout]

From memory, and the information may be erroneous, it was his day off and he wasn't happy to be called in. I'm guessing that it sounded like four murders and a suicide, it looked like four murders and a suicide, ergo it WAS four murders and a suicide. Perhaps, had he spent a bit longer at the soc/asked more questions, OR, if he'd listened to those who had, his conclusion might have been different. I suspect he MAY have found himself having those thoughts. He put himself in a position it was very hard to back down from.

Whether he'd have ever had a change of heart remains to be seen. He must have made notes, he'd have had to do so it's dependent on what he wrote and where they are. As I've always said, there must have been some indication within the murder scene itself that prompted his reaction.  This was a mass murder and not something that you just glanced over which was the impression everyone got which is why I've been saying there was an indicator or something that " Taff " had been familiar with in his line of work.
In any profession that someone has followed for many years there are situations that become second nature in deciding causes etc.
 

[Jane]

Whether he'd have ever had a change of heart remains to be seen. He must have made notes, he'd have had to do so it's dependent on what he wrote and where they are. As I've always said, there must have been some indication within the murder scene itself that prompted his reaction.  This was a mass murder and not something that you just glanced over which was the impression everyone got which is why I've been saying there was an indicator or something that " Taff " had been familiar with in his line of work.
In any profession that someone has followed for many years there are situations that become second nature in deciding causes etc.

It would be very interesting to know exactly when those original notes were written up, wouldn't it? It's possible that he wrote them immediately whilst it was still fresh in his mind, but convinced as he was that it was four murders and a suicide, he may not have done it until he'd finished playing golf.

I have to wonder just what he'd have felt when the decision was made to take another look at the case. My initial thought is that he'd have been furious followed by feeling helpless, not least because he hadn't spent long enough at the scene to give any counter argument. He'd accepted, having presumably asking what they'd got -I believe that's usual, or maybe I've watched too much television!!- what he was told, without spending enough time to check it out. Sounding like and looking like it don't necessarily make it so.

[lookout]

It would be very interesting to know exactly when those original notes were written up, wouldn't it? It's possible that he wrote them immediately whilst it was still fresh in his mind, but convinced as he was that it was four murders and a suicide, he may not have done it until he'd finished playing golf.

I have to wonder just what he'd have felt when the decision was made to take another look at the case. My initial thought is that he'd have been furious followed by feeling helpless, not least because he hadn't spent long enough at the scene to give any counter argument. He'd accepted, having presumably asking what they'd got -I believe that's usual, or maybe I've watched too much television!!- what he was told, without spending enough time to check it out. Sounding like and looking like it don't necessarily make it so.

Presumably he spent time in his office soon after so would have been writing, among other things, his findings of that morning and as has been mentioned, the interruptions from the extended family trying to tell him his job. He certainly hadn't been happy about the interfering within a short time of the murders, which he quite possibly wondered what their interest was at that point, because I certainly would have questioned it. 

[Jane]

Presumably he spent time in his office soon after so would have been writing, among other things, his findings of that morning and as has been mentioned, the interruptions from the extended family trying to tell him his job. He certainly hadn't been happy about the interfering within a short time of the murders, which he quite possibly wondered what their interest was at that point, because I certainly would have questioned it.

It was his day off. He allegedly told them to wind it up quickly as he left to play golf. It's doubtful that any of the extended family besieged him with claims that Jeremy did it that morning -it may have been the only time they were prepared to accept Sherila being responsible. I agree that he wouldn't have been happy with what he saw as interference, I doubt he was the type to accept anyone else's opinion at the best of time, but in this case, he probably hadn't done enough groundwork of his own to be able to counter their argument. He was tied up in knots and all he had was the authority of his rank.

[guest7363]

I don't know about not being an easy decision , he'd seemed Hell-bent on his " domestic " verdict and stuck to it before making his way to the golf-course ?

He didn’t go off to play Golf, it was 2 and a half days later he went to play Golf.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=728.0;attach=3154

[Jane]

He didn’t go off to play Golf, it was 2 and a half days later he went to play Golf.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=728.0;attach=3154

My error also, RJ. However, irrelevant of what his plans were, was it not his day off?

[lookout]

I'd like to see his original logs though just to see what he did write.

[Jane]

I'd like to see his original logs though just to see what he did write.

It's on my wish list.

[guest7363]

My error also, RJ. However, irrelevant of what his plans were, was it not his day off?

Hi Jane, I’m not quite sure about it being his day off.

[Jane]

Hi Jane, I’m not quite sure about it being his day off.

RJ, I'd understood that he had was arsy about being called in because it was a rest day and he'd made other arrangements. Perfectly feasible, of course. Golf, it seems, was erroneous.

[guest7363]

RJ, I'd understood that he had was arsy about being called in because it was a rest day and he'd made other arrangements. Perfectly feasible, of course. Golf, it seems, was erroneous.

I think I’ve heard that before Jane as well.

[guest29835]

Possibly referring to this post?

Yes, and Steve alleges something different to what I said. 

[guest29835]

The same could be said of you with all the shite you write, you say it with so much conviction hoping with your arrogance no one dare question.

Could you provide an example of my supposed 'arrogance', please?

Please quote from a post and also provide the link, so we can see the context of the post, including whether I was provoked by you or somebody else.

Thank you.

I think you calling me arrogant is very rich, quite frankly. 

In the post of yours that I quote above, you are arrogant.

In virtually everything you post on here, you are arrogant and dismissive.

I do not come on here ridiculing people with emoticons and dismissing people's views.  You are breaching the Forum Rules by doing so, and sowing discord.  But that is a matter for you.  If you want to do that, and if the moderators think you should be allowed to do so, then I will do the same back to you.

The same applies to Steve and Adam.

Steve is an abuser and a liar, and he will be abused back.

Adam is sarcastic and contemptuous towards other posters, and I give him the same back. 

I mention that important caveat just in case your examples of my 'arrogance' involve me dishing out to you and your friends what you dish out to others.

[Adam]

Could you provide an example of my supposed 'arrogance', please?

Please quote from a post and also provide the link, so we can see the context of the post, including whether I was provoked by you or somebody else.

Thank you.

I think you calling me arrogant is very rich, quite frankly. 

In the post of yours that I quote above, you are arrogant.

In virtually everything you post on here, you are arrogant and dismissive.

I do not come on here ridiculing people with emoticons and dismissing people's views.  You are breaching the Forum Rules by doing so, and sowing discord.  But that is a matter for you.  If you want to do that, and if the moderators think you should be allowed to do so, then I will do the same back to you.

The same applies to Steve and Adam.

Steve is an abuser and a liar, and he will be abused back.

Adam is sarcastic and contemptuous towards other posters, and I give him the same back. 

I mention that important caveat just in case your examples of my 'arrogance' involve me dishing out to you and your friends what you dish out to others.

You are the worst poster on here. Always putting down me, Steve, Real Justice, Caroline, Jane & Hartley in long posts. The guilters.

But NGB & Mike are now the only moderators left. NGB saying he believes in 'intervening aa little as possible'. So this won't change. 

Only thing that bothered me was when you said I posted something. Then refused to quote the post. It's forum practice to quote people's posts if disagreeing.