Suggested reasons the straight forward Bamber scenario does not work:

[guest29835]

You'd be the first one to complain had she ended up a single mother on a Braintree council estate.

As I've said, I'm pleased she made a success of her life.

[guest29835]

It's usually (and with tragic irony) my most fecund period, to which many members here will readily attest. Whilst we're about it you might wish to call attack dog David off and feed him some more of that brain candy he needs for low-level function.

Thanks Steve.  Another one for the archives.

[JackieD]

 

[lookout]

The " scenario " wasn't about Bamber, Adam it was more to do with the slipshod investigation and phone cock-up involving Essex police, as well as the judge telling the jury to go by the only " 03.26 " phone-call which allegedly came from JB !

[Adam]

The " scenario " wasn't about Bamber, Adam it was more to do with the slipshod investigation and phone cock-up involving Essex police, as well as the judge telling the jury to go by the only " 03.26 " phone-call which allegedly came from JB !

The thread was about the main obstacles people have come up with over the last 35 years. To dispute the natural Bamber scenario matching the evidence.

All 11 obstacles are easily dismissed. Three of them have been brought up recently by QC. Which were weak and unsourced.

[guest29835]

The thread was about the main obstacles people have come up with over the last 35 years. To dispute the natural Bamber scenario matching the evidence.

All 11 obstacles are easily dismissed. Three of them have been brought up recently by QC. Which were weak and unsourced.

Which three were those, Adam?

[Adam]

From what I recall. In no particular order -

Bamber didn't catch & physically attack Nevill on the stairs.

Sheila may have woken.

Sheila may have fought back.

Nevill did not dial 999.

Nevill's blood was not by the gun cupboard (no source).

Crispy may have barked.

Someone may have seen Bamber cycle to WHF.

Nevill's blood was not on the stairs (no source).

Nevill did not head for the guns in the wash room (no source any were there)

Bamber had no visible injuries.

There was no blood on Nevill's side of the bed.

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All these have been easily be explained away.

Bamber would not be worried about Sheila maybe waking & fighting back. Crispy was not a guard dog & needed his sleep, whereever he was.

1, 8 & 9.

[lookout]

You haven't been paying attention to anything Adam----or you're in denial which is as bad  if not worse than me with my gut-feeling.

[guest29835]

1, 8 & 9.

There is no blood or forensic evidence for any of those things.  That's the basis of my conclusions, Adam.  That's because it they had happened, there would be evidence and we'd be discussing it.  This is no more than being rational.

[Adam]

There is no blood or forensic evidence for any of those things.  That's the basis of my conclusions, Adam.  That's because it they had happened, there would be evidence and we'd be discussing it.  This is no more than being rational.

Sorry I forgot points 4 & 5 as well. Both first suggested by you.

[guest29835]

Sorry I forgot points 4 & 5 as well. Both first suggested by you.

5 I have covered in my immediate last post above.

4 is Nevill not dialling 999.  Are you saying he did?

[lookout]

The Colander Investigation is what I'd have named this case with its "merges and human errors".

[guest29835]

Nevill did not head for the guns in the wash room (no source any were there)

There were guns in the wash room downstairs.  It's in one of the statements, but frankly I can't be bothered to check which one.  I believe it may be Anthony Pargeter's statement, and in fairness, it could also be that only Pargeter's guns were ever stored there, though I always thought some of Bamber's were there too.

[Adam]

There were guns in the wash room downstairs.  It's in one of the statements, but frankly I can't be bothered to check which one.  I believe it may be Anthony Pargeter's statement, and in fairness, it could also be that only Pargeter's guns were ever stored there, though I always thought some of Bamber's were there too.

You need to find the source. Which I have asked you for before.

[guest29835]

You need to find the source. Which I have asked you for before.

I don't need to do anything for you, Adam.  You're not my keeper.  The point in fact has been mentioned and discussed a number of times on the forum anyway, including while you've been here. 

Probably you'd be better advised to look for the source yourself, and when you find it, keep quiet about it as it's embarrassing that you don't know such a basic fact given that you've posted here 21,000 times over many years.