Did Colin Caffell Contribute To Sheila's Schizophrenia?

[Jane]

If I remember rightly, it did appear that it was Sheila who was constantly looking for work ? No mention of Colin doing any searching, but was quite happy to take handouts etc from the Bamber's. I also recollect that Jeremy had such a conversation too. Did he do a job of work while him and Sheila were together ? She apparently would have done everything for him but it wasn't reciprocated .

In his book he says he encouraged her to do the modeling course. She in turn encouraged him into something equally unsuitable. Both career moves failed. Getting 'known' at anything artistic takes time, the first requisite usually requiring one's death. Colin had to do something to keep the wolf from the door.

[lookout]

In his book he says he encouraged her to do the modeling course. She in turn encouraged him into something equally unsuitable. Both career moves failed. Getting 'known' at anything artistic takes time, the first requisite usually requiring one's death. Colin had to do something to keep the wolf from the door.

Pity he never thought about keeping the wolf from the door while she was alive instead of making money after her death.

[lookout]

When all else fails with many scroungers---they write a book, usually more about themselves, in order to garner sympathy. The hard done by brigade. He was a horror in my eyes.

[Jane]

Pity he never thought about keeping the wolf from the door while she was alive instead of making money after her death.

It would have been hard for him to compete with the Bambers. Sheila was probably high maintainance. I think you lay too much at his door. As I've already said, Sheila was half of the dysfunctional pairing.

[lookout]

It would have been hard for him to compete with the Bambers. Sheila was probably high maintainance. I think you lay too much at his door. As I've already said, Sheila was half of the dysfunctional pairing.

But he didn't need to compete with the Bamber's did he ? Just to show willing in supporting his wife any which way would have sufficed. That's just an excuse. I'm sure you'd kick-off if you were going out cleaning while your husband lolled around doing nothing.

[lookout]

He took advantage of Sheila's nature. She wasn't able to tell him to get his ass into gear and look for a job, like many other women would have said-----probably for fear of losing him so in a way, I also see him as controlling too. Do as I say not as I do.

[Jane]

When all else fails with many scroungers---they write a book, usually more about themselves, in order to garner sympathy. The hard done by brigade. He was a horror in my eyes.

Mmm. I can see that when it comes to laying blame, anyone but Jeremy will do. Colin was in a cause and effect situation. I'm as certain as I can be, that he wasn't there by choice. Given that he didn't rape Sheila, he can't take all the responsibility. He shouldn't have hit her, but it was a reaction. Chances are she deliberately provoked him.

[Jane]

But he didn't need to compete with the Bamber's did he ? Just to show willing in supporting his wife any which way would have sufficed. That's just an excuse. I'm sure you'd kick-off if you were going out cleaning while your husband lolled around doing nothing.

I don't recall that she "went out cleaning" until they separated. She was far too busy being pregnant, having miscarriages, and giving birth. Besides which, where's your proof coming from that he "lolled around doing nothing"?

[lookout]

Mmm. I can see that when it comes to laying blame, anyone but Jeremy will do. Colin was in a cause and effect situation. I'm as certain as I can be, that he wasn't there by choice. Given that he didn't rape Sheila, he can't take all the responsibility. He shouldn't have hit her, but it was a reaction. Chances are she deliberately provoked him.

He probably didn't get off his backside which would provoke anyone. He was one idle being. I am with the woman here no matter who it is.

[Jane]

He probably didn't get off his backside which would provoke anyone. He was one idle being. I am with the woman here no matter who it is.

You're making wild assumptions about how their marriage worked, aren't you? I can't disagree with you siding with the woman, but I entirely disagree that it gives her carte blanche to be as difficult as possible and expect no sort of retribution. As I see the situation, you're determined that Colin, whatever he's done, is wrong. I'm saying Sheila played her own part in it. I wonder how many hours work went into making the sculpture she destroyed?

[lookout]

I don't recall that she "went out cleaning" until they separated. She was far too busy being pregnant, having miscarriages, and giving birth. Besides which, where's your proof coming from that he "lolled around doing nothing"?

C'mon, nobody is described as being " busy having miscarriages ".
Nobody was " busy " looking after her in the aftermath----before she had time to get over that, the twins were sprung upon her and how supportive he was then, bedding what other female he could get hold of.

I have no proof that he lolled around but neither have I got proof that he was looking for work.

[Jane]

C'mon, nobody is described as being " busy having miscarriages ".
Nobody was " busy " looking after her in the aftermath----before she had time to get over that, the twins were sprung upon her and how supportive he was then, bedding what other female he could get hold of.

I have no proof that he lolled around but neither have I got proof that he was looking for work.

You don't. But given the choice of whether to say the best or worst of him, you'll opt for the worst.

And I don't know what went on inside their marriage, but other than the brief period -between losing the baby which forced their marriage and becoming pregnant again -and losing it- to becoming pregnant with the twins and spending most of the pregnancy in hospial- when she did the unsuccessful modeling stint in Japan, Sheila had little time for work. To be fair, girls of her station didn't expect to have to work, other than a little temping or some charity stuff, after marriage. The necessity for it would have come as a shock to her.