The September 11 attacks

[Roch]

Who else could possibly have been in the pilot seats of those planes, other than fanatical Jihadists anticipating a "reward" in the life after?

Its not plausible for Bush or Israel to have agents willing to commit to such an operation.

I don't think that's how agents or assets work David. In theory, it would be possible to allow or make use of 'jihadists' in a suicide attack - but it would probably be without their knowledge.  Let's say I want to influence the 2017 UK election because Jeremy Corbyn is closing on Teresa May. I instruct agent X to inform asset Y that she in turn should give the go ahead to the terror cell champing at the bit to get drugged up and commit slaughter, with a view to being sent to paradise as a result. The terror cell does exactly this, without ever knowing that Y is linked to X.  Once it's done, I get my friends in the media to print loads of stories about Jeremy Corbyn being soft on terror and friend of the IRA etc.

[gringo]

Thread on the three coordinated attacks and one attempted attack on New York and Washington DC. Resulting in over 2900 deaths.

   Do you consider the NIST report on the collapse of WTC7, which was hit by no planes, to be believable? Its collapse being reported by the BBC(Jane Standish) and a number of US News outlets some twenty minutes before it happened. It is actually visible in the background whilst she reports that it has collapsed. It's collapse into its own footprint looks like a controlled demolition. The collapse has been timed and shown to be at free fall speed, not physically possible in any collapse theory.
     WTC7 is the smoking gun that tells us that the official story is a lie, in my view.

[Roch]

   Do you consider the NIST report on the collapse of WTC7, which was hit by no planes, to be believable? Its collapse being reported by the BBC(Jane Standish) and a number of US News outlets some twenty minutes before it happened. It is actually visible in the background whilst she reports that it has collapsed. It's collapse into its own footprint looks like a controlled demolition. The collapse has been timed and shown to be at free fall speed, not physically possible in any collapse theory.
     WTC7 is the smoking gun that tells us that the official story is a lie, in my view.

You're wasting your time.  Some people cannot encompass state sponsored terror.  It just does not compute for them.

[gringo]

You're wasting your time.  Some people cannot encompass state sponsored terror.  It just does not compute for them.

   Still worth pointing though, Roch.
    For the unbelievers here is Larry Silverstein talking about the decision to "pull it". It being World Trade Centre 7 the third building after the twin towers to collapse in New York that day. Despite being hit by no planes, we are to believe that WTC7 was the first steel framed skyscraper ever to collapse because of fires.
    The owner spoke post collapse of the decision to "pull it". The BBC, MSNBC and others reported the collapse before it happened showing remarkable Nostradamus like powers, especially in light of the fact that there was no precedent to believe that a 47 storey steel framed building would collapse due to fire.
    Remarkably and by an uncanny coincidence WTC7 then collapsed at free fall speed into its own footprint in the manner of a controlled demolition, but it collapsed due to fires.
    Officially  
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZlmHvd_RZU

   

[David1819]

   Do you consider the NIST report on the collapse of WTC7, which was hit by no planes, to be believable? Its collapse being reported by the BBC(Jane Standish) and a number of US News outlets some twenty minutes before it happened. It is actually visible in the background whilst she reports that it has collapsed. It's collapse into its own footprint looks like a controlled demolition. The collapse has been timed and shown to be at free fall speed, not physically possible in any collapse theory.
     WTC7 is the smoking gun that tells us that the official story is a lie, in my view.

WTC 7 had a large gash down the whole building from the collapse of WTC 1. WTC7 fire suppression sprinklers were all severed from the water mains due to the collapse of the WTC 1. The reporting is simply human error.

[David1819]

You're wasting your time.  Some people cannot encompass state sponsored terror.  It just does not compute for them.

Really?

The Shelling of Mainila, Operation Himmler and The Mukden Incident are all examples of false flags.

Difference is those actually took place and there is evidence to show it. Contrary to the looney theories about 9/11.

[handyman]

The 9/11 attacks were discussed here in some detail.
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7904.msg374999.html#msg374999

[gringo]

WTC 7 had a large gash down the whole building from the collapse of WTC 1. WTC7 fire suppression sprinklers were all severed from the water mains due to the collapse of the WTC 1. The reporting is simply human error.

    Simple human error that managed to correctly predict an unprecedented event. Of course it was just simple error. Who told them this erroneous piece of information? What a strange error to make and even stranger that it then occurred. How does a gash and failed sprinklers cause a steel framed building to collapse at free fall speed?
    9/11 has been used to justify US/NATO aggression, the passing of the AUMF, ever since then and was the justification for their endless War of/on Terror.
   

[David1819]

    Simple human error that managed to correctly predict an unprecedented event. Of course it was just simple error. Who told them this erroneous piece of information? What a strange error to make and even stranger that it then occurred. How does a gash and failed sprinklers cause a steel framed building to collapse at free fall speed?
       

The reporters you mention have appeared on several documentaries and explained it.

Steel loses its strength under heat. Hence all the towers collapsed after the fires spread uncontrollably for a period of time.

In a typical fire scenario (Where the fire starts from within) these buildings are designed to starve the fire of oxygen. In this case all buildings had huge holes in them thus feeding the fires oxygen and all water suppression systems were cut off from plane impact and in WTC7s case the collapse of the towers.

[Roch]

Really?

The Shelling of Mainila, Operation Himmler and The Mukden Incident are all examples of false flags.

Difference is those actually took place and there is evidence to show it. Contrary to the looney theories about 9/11.

Which country made sure they grabbed every bit of Nazi cleverness as much as they possibly could?

Which country, militarily, has the technological means to pull off something of this magnitude?

Come on, its' main allies are the UK (known as the 'master's of deception' since WW II) and Israel (need I say more).

[Roch]

The footage of the second plane entering the tower is weird. I've not seen an adequate explanation for the wings-impact anomaly. The only one I could think of myself, was that the weight of the jet engines, combined with the velocity of the plane, enabled the wings to do what they did. However, I don't feel my own explanation is satisfactory.

[David1819]

9/11 has been used to justify US/NATO aggression, the passing of the AUMF, ever since then and was the justification for their endless War of/on Terror.
   

And rightly so. Same goes for Russia invading Chechnya in 1999 after Chechen Jihadists blew up four buildings in Russia killing over 300 people. You reap what you sow.

Interestingly enough there are conspiracy theories about Putin being responsible for those also.

[David1819]

The footage of the second plane entering the tower is weird. I've not seen an adequate explanation for the wings-impact anomaly. The only one I could think of myself, was that the weight of the jet engines, combined with the velocity of the plane, enabled the wings to do what they did. However, I don't feel my own explanation is satisfactory.

What is weird about it?



You can see where the wings impacted.

[Roch]

What is weird about it?



You can see where the wings impacted.

Look at the wing gif type shot you have posted.

[David1819]

Look at the wing gif type shot you have posted.

What about it?