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Offline David1819

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« Reply #120 on: August 20, 2020, 05:40:PM »
That is clearly not what was shown on the broadcast. Why would you need to subsequently redact a gust of debris and air, by deploying a banner?

What broadcast?

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« Reply #121 on: August 21, 2020, 06:04:AM »
No. A plane hit the building. It was filmed by 62 different cameras. Everyone saw it.

Err, Dave a Plane didn't hit the buiding(s). Can you elaborate on these 62 different cameras.
When you say everyone saw it are you referring to those who watched it live on tellalievision.

Also I hate to shatter your illusions, but you keep posting close up shots of the WTC with your favorite gash in it. But think about it, if the live to air footage was faked, think how easy it would be to fake any later screened footage or stills, when in damage control.

Also still waiting for you to link to the post I made inferring that  holograms were screened.




Fox had to go into damage control, using one of their employees as an eye witness in this laughable eye witness account.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxQ2-DcZuR4
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Re: The September 11 attacks
« Reply #122 on: August 21, 2020, 08:13:AM »
Err, Dave a Plane didn't hit the buiding(s). Can you elaborate on these 62 different cameras.
When you say everyone saw it are you referring to those who watched it live on tellalievision.

Also I hate to shatter your illusions, but you keep posting close up shots of the WTC with your favorite gash in it. But think about it, if the live to air footage was faked, think how easy it would be to fake any later screened footage or stills, when in damage control.

Also still waiting for you to link to the post I made inferring that  holograms were screened.




Fox had to go into damage control, using one of their employees as an eye witness in this laughable eye witness account.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxQ2-DcZuR4

He's referring to mobile phone camera footage either from the ground or from buildings.  In the video I posted above, the majority of this footage is used to plot the flight path of the aircraft.

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Re: The September 11 attacks
« Reply #123 on: August 21, 2020, 08:20:AM »
Is this fake also?

https://www.nps.gov/flni/learn/historyculture/upload/P200056T-Transcript-CVR.pdf

I couldn't tell you whether it was fake or not. Is this the site where there was nothing but a scorched hole in the ground... And some passports?
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Re: The September 11 attacks
« Reply #124 on: August 21, 2020, 09:18:AM »
Err, Dave a Plane didn't hit the buiding(s). Can you elaborate on these 62 different cameras.
When you say everyone saw it are you referring to those who watched it live on tellalievision.

Here are all 62 videos plus the names of those who filmed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WGu345fr6o


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« Reply #125 on: August 21, 2020, 10:23:AM »
Here are all 62 videos plus the names of those who filmed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WGu345fr6o

None of which alters the fact that the official broadcast was graphics.  Where was the hijacker's passport situated, so that when the plane seeped in to the building (across several floors?) it was blown outwards? In his pocket or in his hand luggage?

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« Reply #126 on: August 21, 2020, 12:07:PM »
Here are all 62 videos plus the names of those who filmed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WGu345fr6o

Just more variations of the UA175 template. I see NIST have tried to cherry pick the best (for want of a better word) ones. More on NIST later.

Most of those videos are from the camera planet archives who's owner Steve Rosenbaum has made a nice earner out of manufacturing the so called 9/11 amateur videos.
Here's a prime example of the sort of video clips that have supposedly been filmed by some "amateur videographer".
https://youtu.be/9PpQSLI8VCE
 At least I can now put a name to it assuming he exists (Andrew Foster) google his name, and who can blame him from shying away from the limelight.

https://www.911memorial.org/connect/blog/filmmaker-documenting-curation-911-memorial-museum-gives-talk

 
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« Reply #127 on: August 21, 2020, 12:39:PM »
So despite 62 separate film recordings of a the plane crashing into the building. Half of which were filmed by ordinary people on the ground whom you can hear screaming about a plane hitting the building in the footage.

That’s not convincing enough for some? wow some people are bonkers.

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« Reply #128 on: August 21, 2020, 01:05:PM »
So despite 62 separate film recordings of a the plane crashing into the building. Half of which were filmed by ordinary people on the ground whom you can hear screaming about a plane hitting the building in the footage.

That’s not convincing enough for some? wow some people are bonkers.

Let's say an aircraft of some type hit the building and was filmed from below etc. That is a separate issue to what was broadcast on TV stations.  It is mainly this point which you are struggling with.  It's possible to plan and manage an event involving both aircraft  and graphics. It has probably not been done before, so nobody would have expected it. Hence people initially believed what was shown to them.

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« Reply #129 on: August 21, 2020, 01:57:PM »
Let's say an aircraft of some type hit the building and was filmed from below etc. That is a separate issue to what was broadcast on TV stations.  It is mainly this point which you are struggling with.  It's possible to plan and manage an event involving both aircraft  and graphics. It has probably not been done before, so nobody would have expected it. Hence people initially believed what was shown to them.

If aircrafts were used. Why bother with CGI? What would be the point? If you want to argue a news outlet enhanced their footage to obtain more viewers that still is not going to change the fact of what took place.

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« Reply #130 on: August 21, 2020, 02:16:PM »
If aircrafts were used. Why bother with CGI? What would be the point? If you want to argue a news outlet enhanced their footage to obtain more viewers that still is not going to change the fact of what took place.

I don't think you have given this event the required thought.  Let's say you are a Wolfovitz or a Cheney or some lesser known psychopaths within the military industrial complex - who are working to the same ends as the two mentioned above.  Why would you take the risk of allowing relatively flimsy planes and their fuel, to cause a mega outrage, the like of which has never been witnessed on American soil?

You need the outrage to justify foreign wars of aggression: including seizure of resources, regime change, the introduction of draconian laws at home etc etc etc etc etc etc.

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« Reply #131 on: August 21, 2020, 03:35:PM »
I don't think you have given this event the required thought.  Let's say you are a Wolfovitz or a Cheney or some lesser known psychopaths within the military industrial complex - who are working to the same ends as the two mentioned above.  Why would you take the risk of allowing relatively flimsy planes and their fuel, to cause a mega outrage, the like of which has never been witnessed on American soil?

You need the outrage to justify foreign wars of aggression: including seizure of resources, regime change, the introduction of draconian laws at home etc etc etc etc etc etc.

If I was a Wolfovitz or a Cheney id be so pissed about Al-Qaeda taking credit for my master plan. The same guys that bombed the twins towers 1993. Or was that an inside job also?  ::)

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Re: The September 11 attacks
« Reply #132 on: August 21, 2020, 04:07:PM »
If I was a Wolfovitz or a Cheney id be so pissed about Al-Qaeda taking credit for my master plan. The same guys that bombed the twins towers 1993. Or was that an inside job also?  ::)

That Ramsy bloke? Didn't he get away from them on a motorbike?

Our security services control the terror attacks we are subjected to.

It's a way of saying 'look.. Our security services are going to need a massive injection of funding, if we are to deal with this new threat' etc etc.
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Re: The September 11 attacks
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« Reply #134 on: August 21, 2020, 11:09:PM »
So despite 62 separate film recordings of a the plane crashing into the building. Half of which were filmed by ordinary people on the ground whom you can hear screaming about a plane hitting the building in the footage.

That’s not convincing enough for some? wow some people are bonkers.

 You are letting your logistical analysis of being attached to the official 9/11 narrative dictate the science.
 
I'm bonkers because I question the authenticity of this. (Unless this is what you think is a hologram I'm still waiting for you to link to the post where I infer a hologram was used.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PpQSLI8VCE&feature=emb_logo

More laughable images.
Jennifer Spell using her video camera with the amazing zoom in shot.


Evan Fairbanks shot of the plane entering the building with no deceleration.

Here we have someone having fun, (but obviously still learning) with his simcity computor game.


https://media.contentapi.ea.com/content/dam/gin/images/2017/01/simcity-key-art.jpg.adapt.crop1x1.767p.jpg
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