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Offline Hardy Boy

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Re: PV and his role in ballistic manipulation.
« Reply #105 on: October 03, 2023, 09:07:PM »
The discovery of the bodies and the scene within the house 33. In the kitchen the police found Nevill Bamber's body slumped forward over an overturned chair next to the hearth, so that his head was just above a coal scuttle. The police evidence was that there were other chairs and stools upturned and broken crockery, sugar and what appeared to be spots of blood on the floor. A ceiling light lampshade had also been broken. It will be necessary to address further these matter later but on the evidence available at trial, it appeared as though a violent struggle had taken place. On one of the surfaces there was a telephone with the receiver off the cradle. A quantity of .22 shells was beside it.
They Probably mentioned it somewhere Snow it was mentioned about overturned chairs in the 2002 Appeal?

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Re: PV and his role in ballistic manipulation.
« Reply #106 on: October 03, 2023, 09:35:PM »
They Probably mentioned it somewhere Snow it was mentioned about overturned chairs in the 2002 Appeal?
Possibly HB,but the chair behind the door isn't overturned and is partly blocking the door.

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Re: PV and his role in ballistic manipulation.
« Reply #107 on: October 03, 2023, 09:47:PM »
I think the coppers possibly did rearrange the scene.

Possibly when they barged through the door the morning in question. Remember it was a murder suicide scenario first and foremost

We must remember that had Jeremy Bamber not been charged with murder these photos would have never come into fruition.

I'm not even championing a Bamber framed aspect either here
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Re: PV and his role in ballistic manipulation.
« Reply #108 on: October 03, 2023, 09:57:PM »
I think the coppers possibly did rearrange the scene.

Possibly when they barged through the door the morning in question. Remember it was a murder suicide scenario first and foremost

We must remember that had Jeremy Bamber not been charged with murder these photos would have never come into fruition.

I'm not even championing a Bamber framed aspect either here
But why place a chair behind the door ILB? Maybe there's more room to get past it than the photo seems to show?

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Re: PV and his role in ballistic manipulation.
« Reply #109 on: October 03, 2023, 09:57:PM »
Possibly HB,but the chair behind the door isn't overturned and is partly blocking the door.
They mention this in the Dickension Report Snow?  I think some things like chairs might have been rearranged Snow?

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1168.0;attach=5962;image

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Re: PV and his role in ballistic manipulation.
« Reply #110 on: October 03, 2023, 10:02:PM »
But why place a chair behind the door ILB? Maybe there's more room to get past it than the photo seems to show?
Which Photo is it Snow?

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Re: PV and his role in ballistic manipulation.
« Reply #111 on: October 03, 2023, 10:04:PM »
They mention this in the Dickension Report Snow?  I think some things like chairs might have been rearranged Snow?

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1168.0;attach=5962;image
Thanks HB,yes they mention stools being overturned on entry but no mention of putting them the right way up again.No mention of a chair either.

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Re: PV and his role in ballistic manipulation.
« Reply #112 on: October 03, 2023, 10:07:PM »
Thanks HB,yes they mention stools being overturned on entry but no mention of putting them the right way up again.No mention of a chair either.
What you have to remeber Snow, the photo's were taken a while after the raid team had gone?

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Re: PV and his role in ballistic manipulation.
« Reply #113 on: October 03, 2023, 10:07:PM »
Which Photo is it Snow?
Not sure if the photo is on the forum or not HB,but Bamber definately posted it on the web,clearly showing the chair.