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Re: PC Bird - description of gun cupboard
« Reply #120 on: January 20, 2020, 05:57:PM »

Expected response from yourself

So anyone who thinks something stinks in this case is a troll
ERR nope just your proven self

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Re: PC Bird - description of gun cupboard
« Reply #121 on: January 20, 2020, 05:59:PM »
I'm still unsure as to whether Jeremy or Nevill would normally put the silencer away in a box when they had finished using it. That seems a bit too organised.  :))
I don’t think they did Kaldin, what’s the point, it wasn’t as both items were dangerous left out?

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Re: PC Bird - description of gun cupboard
« Reply #122 on: January 20, 2020, 05:59:PM »
Kaldin not sure what all the aggro is about it usually takes two but Gringo is an excellent poster and is normally very civil something must have really annoyed him :o

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Re: PC Bird - description of gun cupboard
« Reply #123 on: January 20, 2020, 06:28:PM »
David that is horrendous that they did that makes you wonder what else they did ???

I don't believe the police were involved in much foul play before the conviction. Most of the questionable actions by EP take place long after the verdict. Its all an effort to save face.

It would not surprise me if EP expected an acquittal back in 1986 and thought that would be the end of it.

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Re: PC Bird - description of gun cupboard
« Reply #124 on: January 20, 2020, 06:36:PM »
Kaldin not sure what all the aggro is about it usually takes two but Gringo is an excellent poster and is normally very civil something must have really annoyed him :o
even if it had annoyed him theres no excuse for insulting another member

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« Reply #125 on: January 20, 2020, 06:54:PM »
Hi sami I do agree it is not acceptable for posters to insult each other just because they have a different view it is totally unacceptable for posters to accuse other posters of telling lies  just because they don't agree with their comments or to call another person a troll this is provocative talk and just causes trouble and that we don't need or want x

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« Reply #126 on: January 20, 2020, 06:58:PM »
Hi sami I do agree it is not acceptable for posters to insult each other just because they have a different view it is totally unacceptable for posters to accuse other posters of telling lies  just because they don't agree with their comments or to call another person a troll this is provocative talk and just causes trouble and that we don't need or want x
yes susan its best to keep it civil as we are just exchanging opinions

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Re: PC Bird - description of gun cupboard
« Reply #127 on: January 20, 2020, 07:00:PM »
David I am sorry I cannot totally agree with you on this one :)

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Re: PC Bird - description of gun cupboard
« Reply #128 on: January 20, 2020, 07:02:PM »
I don’t think they did Kaldin, what’s the point, it wasn’t as both items were dangerous left out?

True. I was thinking more of being organised and looking after the guns. Still, they were in other places in the house so I don't suppose anyone bothered. I'm surprised June let Anthony keep his guns in the shower room - a very strange place for them.

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Re: PC Bird - description of gun cupboard
« Reply #129 on: January 20, 2020, 07:02:PM »
sami you are so right and talk sense we should be able to exchange opinions without getting very personal it spoils the whole forum and does put other posters off making posts

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Re: PC Bird - description of gun cupboard
« Reply #130 on: January 20, 2020, 07:07:PM »
True. I was thinking more of being organised and looking after the guns. Still, they were in other places in the house so I don't suppose anyone bothered. I'm surprised June let Anthony keep his guns in the shower room - a very strange place for them.
The issue with the silencer at the back of the cupboard Kaldin, it wasn’t laying around outside the cupboard or it would have been spotted, it must have been boxed and put away irrespective of being at the back, do you agree with that?

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Re: PC Bird - description of gun cupboard
« Reply #131 on: January 20, 2020, 07:09:PM »
The issue with the silencer at the back of the cupboard Kaldin, it wasn’t laying around outside the cupboard or it would have been spotted, it must have been boxed and put away irrespective of being at the back, do you agree with that?

Yes - if David Boutflour is telling the truth.

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Re: PC Bird - description of gun cupboard
« Reply #132 on: January 20, 2020, 07:10:PM »
I know you mentioned if it made any difference with the sights fitted to the rifle during the killings, I’ve been trying to find the article but cannot find it, it was said that Derrick Bird (Cumbria killings) would have killed more people if he had removed the sights, maybe Sami can give his thoughts here?

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Re: PC Bird - description of gun cupboard
« Reply #133 on: January 20, 2020, 07:12:PM »
Yes - if David Boutflour is telling the truth.
No I mean without his input, on the first day on entry no one seen the silencer, so it wasn’t laying around noticeable by the police or photo’s?  So it must have been out the way?

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Re: PC Bird - description of gun cupboard
« Reply #134 on: January 20, 2020, 07:16:PM »
No I mean without his input, on the first day on entry no one seen the silencer, so it wasn’t laying around noticeable by the police or photo’s?  So it must have been out the way?

Yes.