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Re: Shroud of Diana looms over latest Queen statement
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2020, 12:32:PM »
Some people are only too hasty to take umbrage at advice proffered with the best of intentions: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8608375/Harrys-childhood-friend-doubts-Meghan-new-book-claims.html

It seems Harry looks a little lost and has burned his boats in hitching himself to Meghan and the glitterati, an environment in which she feels very much at home.  I'm not sure if he is enough like his mother to retain a social conscience or deep down has a streak shared with his grandfather, Prince Philip, who to put it mildly does not hold the best opinion of the human condition.

As for Harry and Meghan together, it's impossible for a married couple to be compatible in every sphere and there are bound to be tiffs and spats. One would hope that once the passion has been extinguished they settle down in their luxury, develop their own interests as well as collaborate on charity projects, when their influence could highlight a particular cause. It does seem strange that they should take such a huge cut for themselves whilst promoting these causes though.
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« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2020, 08:33:PM »
These two are fast becoming a joke. I might be charitable and say they have been badly advised. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/royal-family/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-sign-deal-with-netflix/ar-BB18DHL2?ocid=msedgntp

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Re: Shroud of Diana looms over latest Queen statement
« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2020, 09:40:PM »
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These two are fast becoming a joke. I might be charitable and say they have been badly advised. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/royal-family/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-sign-deal-with-netflix/ar-BB18DHL2?ocid=msedgntp

Probably the two most hypocritical people on the planet right now especially on climate change
Is there anyone who still believe they are only interested in charitable causes
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Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000


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Re: Shroud of Diana looms over latest Queen statement
« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2020, 12:12:PM »
It's plain to see that the woman ( MM ) would walk over anyone and she picked on Harry at a more vulnerable time in his life as he was easily manipulated, unfortunately. He must get some real pangs of guilt when he thinks of the way he left his family. Who wouldn't if you were human ? He'll be sorry one day.


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Re: Shroud of Diana looms over latest Queen statement
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2020, 02:48:PM »
Doctor Todd Grande has been dismissed by many medical professionals as "an armchair psychologist who gossips", but I have always found him informative and let's face it: you are free to take his viewpoint with a pinch of salt if you so wish.

Here he discusses the late Princess Diana, and what I find interesting is not only the speculation as to what (if any) disorder she was suffering from, but I wondered whether Harry might be carrying some of this inherited baggage and how that might manifest itself as he contemplates future life away from his motherland. https://youtu.be/61MPgNtGlNU
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Re: Shroud of Diana looms over latest Queen statement
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2020, 11:33:PM »
This is so sad, whatever the rights and wrongs of the marriage. https://youtu.be/V18ZM9rYlhM


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Re: Shroud of Diana looms over latest Queen statement
« Reply #40 on: January 02, 2021, 05:57:PM »
As Meghan and Harry launch yet another podcast beguiling authoress and socialite Lady Colin Campbell proffers her views. Is she like her Christmas tree: just a little over the top? https://youtu.be/J1owJh8U4Vk

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« Reply #41 on: January 02, 2021, 06:42:PM »
As Meghan and Harry launch yet another podcast beguiling authoress and socialite Lady Colin Campbell proffers her views. Is she like her Christmas tree: just a little over the top? https://youtu.be/J1owJh8U4Vk

I quite enjoyed that, actually.  Thanks for the link.  I've ignored this thread until now as I don't normally take an interest in Royal issues, viewing it as mostly gossip and frivolous, but I would say this Lady Campbell is quite perceptive and offers a serious view.

I know what you mean, though.  The dichotomies she is setting out are quite sharp and harsh and based on general assessments of the personalities.  Diana is maybe getting an unfair hearing here, but I think in general it's true that she was not cut out for it. 

Maybe a more accurate way of putting it would be that Diana appealed to a mass media age as a photogenic representation of dream-like sentimental royalty, but when it came down to it, she was not entirely suitable Royal material because she sought to follow fashion and Ego more than tradition and duty.  Is that harsh of me?  Lady Campbell does defend Diana by pointing out that she would not have resorted to the materialism of Meghan, and I think that's true, even allowing for the association with the Al Fayeds.

And the point is that Meghan is just not suitable in her values or ancestry.  This is where I get a bit controversial.  I take the view that as soon as Prince Henry indicated to Her Majesty that he intended to be engaged to an African-American woman, let alone a divorcee and commoner, I think the Queen and the Prime Minister of the day should have indicated to the Prince that he would have to make a decision: if he proceeds and becomes engaged to her, he forfeits his official position as a member of the Royal Family and he must disclaim any Right of Succession.  In my view, the failure of the Queen and/or the government to set down this condition is grounds for the removal of the Windsors completely.  At the very least, it suggests that the Queen does not fully understand her duties, which are ultimately to we, The People.  One of her few remaining concrete obligations, which I think she has discharged poorly, is to do everything she can to preserve the customs, traditions and heritage stock of these islands and our ancient societies, for which she and her family are supposed to embody the most prominent representation. I believe this is a point on which she could have insisted on adherence to principle, even in the face of a politically-correct government.

I have never listened to the Harry-Meghan podcasts.  They're barely on my radar.  Is it worthwhile?  What do they discuss?

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Re: Shroud of Diana looms over latest Queen statement
« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2021, 08:27:PM »
The Queen couldn't possibly have intervened against the Royal marriage, lest she was accused of racism. The Establishment is still reeling from the 1997 uproar on Diana's death. William did try to have a quiet word in his brother's ear but was rebuffed.

I haven't been able to view the whole of this first in a series of podcasts but from the snippets I have heard it's rather sentimental, superficial, shallow and fake, well received by the sycophants who earn a living peddling this nonsense. I assume it's available on Netflix, though if I were a subscriber (I'm not) the first thing I would have done following their lucrative deal was to cancel my subscription. https://youtu.be/FBJ3twtz2Do

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« Reply #43 on: January 02, 2021, 08:29:PM »
The Queen couldn't possibly have intervened against the Royal marriage, lest she was accused of racism. The Establishment is still reeling from the 1997 uproar on Diana's death. William did try to have a quiet word in his brother's ear but was rebuffed.

I think you're right.

I haven't been able to view the whole of this first in a series of podcasts but from the snippets I have heard it's rather sentimental, superficial, shallow and fake, well received by the sycophants who earn a living peddling this nonsense. I assume it's available on Netflix, though if I were a subscriber (I'm not) the first thing I would have done following their lucrative deal was to cancel my subscription. https://youtu.be/FBJ3twtz2Do

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Re: Shroud of Diana looms over latest Queen statement
« Reply #44 on: January 02, 2021, 09:35:PM »