Conflicting Statements

[sami]

If the truth be known, he didn't want to risk being shot himself which is why he was in no hurry. I notice the police weren't in a hurry to smash their way in either having spent nigh on 3 hours hanging around doing nothing.

police officers are only human like us and after what jb had been telling them ,no one can blame them for taking their time,its all good going in with weapons drawn but theres always a chance one of them could get killed despite their training

[Jane]

If the truth be known, he didn't want to risk being shot himself which is why he was in no hurry. I notice the police weren't in a hurry to smash their way in either having spent nigh on 3 hours hanging around doing nothing.

But he didn't think the situation important/dangerous enough to call 999 so what you say doesn't compute. The police weren't in a hurry because Jeremy was using delaying tactics.

[Jan]

I still don’t have an answer .

In the current situation that he is guilty as convicted . Why in his detailed plan did he just not wait and dial 999 ? The call as reported has apparently made him look guilty so why did he make the call as he did ? He carefully planned destroying all the evidence why was the call planned as it was ?

[Steve_uk]

I still don’t have an answer .

In the current situation that he is guilty as convicted . Why in his detailed plan did he just not wait and dial 999 ? The call as reported has apparently made him look guilty so why did he make the call as he did ? He carefully planned destroying all the evidence why was the call planned as it was ?

Because he had to clean himself up before setting the wheels in motion, so needed the excuse of flicking through the Yellow Pages for a Police Station number.

[lookout]

But he didn't think the situation important/dangerous enough to call 999 so what you say doesn't compute. The police weren't in a hurry because Jeremy was using delaying tactics.

You make it sound as though JB was chief superintendent leading the pack. Unless the police were stupid altogether then they wouldn't fall for tactics if they weren't their own ?
If you're intimating that the police relied on Jeremy, then they didn't do their job properly did they ? EP couldn't have been up to much because they were also reliant on the relatives too.

[Kaldin]

But he didn't think the situation important/dangerous enough to call 999 so what you say doesn't compute. The police weren't in a hurry because Jeremy was using delaying tactics.

Eh? He told them Sheila had a gun and had gone berserk (or something like that). I don't think that was a delaying tactic.

[Jane]

I still don’t have an answer .

In the current situation that he is guilty as convicted . Why in his detailed plan did he just not wait and dial 999 ? The call as reported has apparently made him look guilty so why did he make the call as he did ? He carefully planned destroying all the evidence why was the call planned as it was ?

He is the only one who can tell you. I can only suggest that it fitted in with his mindset and plan. Can you not devise possible reasons, from both sides of the divide, rather than throwing the question out there?

[sami]

He is the only one who can tell you. I can only suggest that it fitted in with his mindset and plan. Can you not devise possible reasons, from both sides of the divide, rather than throwing the question out there?

she has read the statements jane,would be far easier to be on one side of the divide 

[Jane]

You make it sound as though JB was chief superintendent leading the pack. Unless the police were stupid altogether then they wouldn't fall for tactics if they weren't their own ?
If you're intimating that the police relied on Jeremy, then they didn't do their job properly did they ? EP couldn't have been up to much because they were also reliant on the relatives too.

At that moment, Jeremy DID know more than police. A wrong move, given there were guns involved, MAY have seen someone injured, even one of their own killed. So, Yes, at that moment, I think they probably were relying on him to enable them to do their job properly. They hadn't yet met any of the relatives.

[Jan]

Because he had to clean himself up before setting the wheels in motion, so needed the excuse of flicking through the Yellow Pages for a Police Station number.

That does not make any sense ? The time wasting from what point ? 

So you give me a time line from him making the call to his answering machine and then again try and explain to me again ?

As far as the police were aware he had been in bed and then received a call ? So what excuse does he need ?

According to your scenario he could have spent a long time destroying everything and cleaning up why was the time of the call and the apparent time wasting important to his alibi ? I repeat just wait the alleged 26 mins and call 999 .,Especially as everyone thinks he wanted to manipulate a siege situation so the police would not enter .

[Caroline]

But if he had planned everything so meticulously why did he make himself look more stupid by not calling 999 ? If it was a timing thing then just wait a bit longer and do the obvious thing ?
 You have claimed he wanted to set up the most dangerous scenario so the police would NOT go in and establish the T.O.D. So calling 999 would make more sense . The was he worded it originally was she had just got hold of the gun . So no indication of any shooting at that stage . But when the raid team were eventually called they were told it was a shooting incident ? Which the police had not established.

A 999 call would have had police there before him, he couldn't influence anyone if he wasn't there. But I think he made a mistake when he didn't call 999. The fact that he made mistakes doesn't exonerate him.

[JackieD]

she has read the statements jane,would be far easier to be on one side of the divide 

Who is she?

[lookout]

At that moment, Jeremy DID know more than police. A wrong move, given there were guns involved, MAY have seen someone injured, even one of their own killed. So, Yes, at that moment, I think they probably were relying on him to enable them to do their job properly. They hadn't yet met any of the relatives.

So just say he hadn't said anything ? He didn't have to mention all the guns in the farmhouse .

[sami]

Who is she?

dont get paranoid,its jan. she said to me (i just read.) meaning the statements,i wont be explaining any further questions of this nature

[Kaldin]

Even with a 999 call, don't they have to send police from the nearest police station anyway? They would also have to arrange for armed police to be sent. I don't see why calling 999 would have made much difference.