Conflicting Statements

[Jan]

No, it isn't but it doesn't mean that every released patient will go on the attack. This is clearly a situation in which you'll take from it what you want to see, as will I.

 I never said that every patient will go on to attack .

That was not in my posts .

[Jane]

At the time of treating her yes. But that’s all .

What he believed and what could have happened are two different things . How many patients that have been released even from being sectioned have gone on to attack ? Quite a lot  it’s not an exact science .

I was simply repeating your own use of the word "attack".

[Caroline]

Why should he justify it ? He was independent. He could have said she was incapable .

But it is is a fact that it is an unpredictable illness so the fact that her medication may have been considered adequate is not the only contributing factor.

It does not eradicate the fact something could have triggered a relapse .

Missed off the extract ....

[Kaldin]

I'm not convinced that appearing vacant is the same as being vacant. For example, people with anxiety can appear to be rather vacant and distant but in their head there's a lot of stuff going on.

[guest7363]

I can see that heather did not make her statement until October so not exactly a contemporary statement whilst things were fresh in her mind .

And again  if sheila was arguing about the fostering why on earth would he not tell the police . It would have added strength to the scene he had set , giving sheila a motive?

Do you or anyone know Jan, what Bamber actually said in court?  We always get to the end of the road where it is given, ah well it’s third party evidence, or there is no proof.  Well what we are dealing with is a “No Comment” from Bamber, because no one actually knows what his evidence was,  this then afford’s his supporters the luxury to twist and tweak however, drumming up public support is his main objective.  Did the family go to bed Happy as Bamber said, or did they argue?

[lookout]

I'm not convinced that appearing vacant is the same as being vacant. For example, people with anxiety can appear to be rather vacant and distant but in their head there's a lot of stuff going on.

There'd have been a thousand and one things going on in Sheila's head, don't you worry, though more pronounced than normal daydreaming because of her state.

[sami]

Do you or anyone know Jan, what Bamber actually said in court?  We always get to the end of the road where it is given, ah well it’s third party evidence, or there is no proof.  Well what we are dealing with is a “No Comment” from Bamber, because no one actually knows what his evidence was,  this then afford’s his supporters the luxury to twist and tweak however, drumming up public support is his main objective.  Did the family go to bed Happy as Bamber said, or did they argue?

good points rj

[David1819]

Do you or anyone know Jan, what Bamber actually said in court?  We always get to the end of the road where it is given, ah well it’s third party evidence, or there is no proof.  Well what we are dealing with is a “No Comment” from Bamber, because no one actually knows what his evidence was,  this then afford’s his supporters the luxury to twist and tweak however, drumming up public support is his main objective.  Did the family go to bed Happy as Bamber said, or did they argue?

If there was any self-incrimination from his testimony, id expect it to be mentioned in the summing up and the appeals. To date the only words from JB the prosecution have ever found useful and thus used against him in court, is his own admission he could enter the building through a locked window.

[Kaldin]

Do you or anyone know Jan, what Bamber actually said in court?  We always get to the end of the road where it is given, ah well it’s third party evidence, or there is no proof.  Well what we are dealing with is a “No Comment” from Bamber, because no one actually knows what his evidence was,  this then afford’s his supporters the luxury to twist and tweak however, drumming up public support is his main objective.  Did the family go to bed Happy as Bamber said, or did they argue?

It also allows you and others to tweak and twist what you think he said.

[guest7363]

It also allows you and others to tweak and twist what you think he said.

Why are you trying to cause disruption again?

[Kaldin]

Why are you trying to cause disruption again?

I'm not, but I'm not going to let you get away with your bias.

[JackieD]

I'm not, but I'm not going to let you get away with your bias.

Absolutely right

[sami]

I'm not, but I'm not going to let you get away with your bias.

oh the lone crusader, )what about your own bias

[Kaldin]

There is no transcript of Jeremy in court,  but he didn't say in any of his statements that there was an argument that night, he said there was a discussion about the twins.  It was Barbara Wilson who thought she interrupted an argument, and later she said she heard raised voices.

[Kaldin]

oh the lone crusader, )what about your own bias

I should have known you'd leap in to interfere just because I pulled your buddy up.