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Re: Guardian re Boyce findings
« Reply #45 on: December 10, 2019, 06:50:PM »
Back in 2011/2012 and 2013 Mike wrote that there were two silencers, possibly more. DB took them to his own place on August 10th when they collected the guns etc from WHF.
The evidence goes way back if you do a search on silencers as Mike explains what happened.

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Re: Guardian re Boyce findings
« Reply #46 on: December 10, 2019, 06:51:PM »
Was there blood in two silencers or something?

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« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2019, 06:55:PM »
Sheila's blood was found in two silencers, even though only one gun had been used.

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« Reply #48 on: December 10, 2019, 07:02:PM »
Sheila's blood was found in two silencers, even though only one gun had been used.


How do you think such could have occurred?

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« Reply #49 on: December 10, 2019, 07:05:PM »
Sheila's blood was found in two silencers, even though only one gun had been used.

Is there evidence of that?

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« Reply #50 on: December 10, 2019, 07:18:PM »
Is there evidence of that?

No there isn’t.

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« Reply #51 on: December 10, 2019, 07:33:PM »
Is there evidence of that?





Apparently when a silencer was handed to the lab for examination they hadn't seen any shiny elongated deep scratch as described by DB and PE  in their statements about one ( silencer ) which also had the red paint  blood  and hair on it. The one shown to the jury wasn't damaged, making the two silencers merged into just the one. 





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« Reply #52 on: December 10, 2019, 07:33:PM »
It doesn't seem very relevant then. Even if there were two silencers, the appeal court will just say that it doesn't matter as blood was only found in one of them, and that's clearly the one which was used in the shooting.

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« Reply #53 on: December 10, 2019, 07:36:PM »
DRB/1 and SBJ/1==2 different silencers.

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« Reply #54 on: December 10, 2019, 07:41:PM »




Apparently when a silencer was handed to the lab for examination they hadn't seen any shiny elongated deep scratch as described by DB and PE  in their statements about one ( silencer ) which also had the red paint  blood  and hair on it. The one shown to the jury wasn't damaged, making the two silencers merged into just the one.


But how did Sheila's blood get into TWO silencers/moderators? It does rather stretch the imagination beyond belief even if there is evidence of it. No evidence is simply just there, end of. There has to be an explanation. It's the explanation which interests me.

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« Reply #55 on: December 10, 2019, 07:42:PM »
It doesn't seem very relevant then. Even if there were two silencers, the appeal court will just say that it doesn't matter as blood was only found in one of them, and that's clearly the one which was used in the shooting.




Except one silencer had a gash in it which had evidently been used to bash something with but the damage was never mentioned in court because a different silencer had been used.

I don't know why the damaged silencer wasn't used as evidence ?

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« Reply #56 on: December 10, 2019, 07:46:PM »
The police maintain there was only one sound moderator examined by them and by Huntingdon and that this is exhibit that had blood and paint in / on it. The defence claim there were two sound moderators in police custody, which over time, were merged in to one exhibit, the inference being that some contaminates were added. Boyce has previously stated that he does not believe a sound moderator was used (for one of the shots?).
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« Reply #57 on: December 10, 2019, 07:47:PM »
DRB/1 and SBJ/1==2 different silencers.

If this is what they are talking about, it’s not new at all.
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« Reply #58 on: December 10, 2019, 07:49:PM »
The police maintain there was only one sound moderator examined by them and by Huntingdon and that this is exhibit that had blood and paint in / on it. The defence claim there were two sound moderators in police custody, which over time, were merged in to one exhibit, the inference being that some contaminates were added. Boyce has previously stated that he does not believe a sound moderator was it used in the killings.



Perhaps you can give some insight into how Sheila's blood came to be in two silencers/moderators?

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« Reply #59 on: December 10, 2019, 07:50:PM »
The police maintain there was only one sound moderator examined by them and by Huntingdon and that this is exhibit that had blood and paint in / on it. The defence claim there were two sound moderators in police custody, which over time, were merged in to one exhibit, the inference being that some contaminates were added. Boyce has previously stated that he does not believe a sound moderator was it used in the killings.
An old argument. However, I agree with Boyce and Bamber knows he’s on safe ground here!
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