Jeremy Bamber trial examination

[Jane]

Perhaps I know a bit more of life / families than you do ?
 Bit of a weak remark  on your behalf don't you think ?

Brazen self aggrandizement on yours.

[lookout]

Brazen self aggrandizement on yours.

Not at all---just awareness !!

[Jane]

Not at all---just awareness !!

And what a skewed awareness it is! From the character assessments you've applied to the family, even their closest friends and family wouldn't recognize them.

[lookout]

And what a skewed awareness it is! From the character assessments you've applied to the family, even their closest friends and family wouldn't recognize them.

What am I supposed to have said that you call skewed ?

[Caroline]

Perhaps I know a bit more of life / families than you do ?
 Bit of a weak remark  on your behalf don't you think ?

From what you have posted, I'd say you know every little a presume a lot.

[Caroline]

Well it obviously wasn't Sheila who'd wanted a reconciliation whereas Colin hadn't. The answer is there somewhere.

You're right, it wasn't Sheila, they have been divorced a long time Lookout!

[Caroline]

What am I supposed to have said that you call skewed ?

Everything. You try to speak for people you have had no interaction with.

[lookout]

Everything. You try to speak for people you have had no interaction with.

You mean like the relatives who spoke about Sheila and Jeremy and who also had little interaction with them but still wrote about them as though they'd been bosom buddies ??

Anyway, it's a gift I have-----telepathy !

[Jane]

You mean like the relatives who spoke about Sheila and Jeremy and who also had little interaction with them but still wrote about them as though they'd been bosom buddies ??

Anyway, it's a gift I have-----telepathy !

At least they KNEW them, Lookout. That qualifies them to know them better than the make believe stuff you come out with. I hadn't realized you'd taken up communicating with the dead.

[lookout]

At least they KNEW them, Lookout. That qualifies them to know them better than the make believe stuff you come out with. I hadn't realized you'd taken up communicating with the dead.

The relatives didn't know them, least of all Sheila. I only communicate with the living, the dead from the neck up is your department.

[Caroline]

You mean like the relatives who spoke about Sheila and Jeremy and who also had little interaction with them but still wrote about them as though they'd been bosom buddies ??

Anyway, it's a gift I have-----telepathy !

No I don't mean like the relatives, I mean someone making assumptions.

It's really not a gift Lookout.

[Caroline]

The relatives didn't know them, least of all Sheila. I only communicate with the living, the dead from the neck up is your department.

You don't know anything about the family or what they did or didn't know.

So I guess you don't talk to yourself then? 

[Jane]

The relatives didn't know them, least of all Sheila. I only communicate with the living, the dead from the neck up is your department.

And you think you know a dead woman better than they knew a live one. How bloody arrogant. No wonder you don't understand empathy. It's not something you're rich in.

[Steve_uk]

Sheila had a lot on her plate to think about that night-----Colin's overall care of the twins. Another woman in the equation having more access to the twins than their own mother. The talk of fostering to give Sheila a break. Convalescence offered to Sheila away from her beloved boys. Colin taking the boys on holiday to his sister with his new-found girlfriend.
Sheila's existing illness which prevented anything but a normal life for her. How do you think that Sheila would have felt with all this going on ?

To be fair to lookout there's not much I disagree with here. Sheila was up and down and when she was down she was in a parlous state. But she wasn't really thinking things through those last few days, the prescribed medication's side-effects taking their toll, which is why Jeremy saw his chance and called this the perfect crime.

[lookout]

Dr Ferguson concluded his findings in his statement by saying that Sheila would have been in a  disturbed psychotic state at the time of the tragedies.