Marks on Nevils arm.

[David1819]

All this is speculation.

Now that's overpraising them a bit don't you think?

I call it fiction. 

[Adam]

All this is speculation.

Well it is a fact that Jeremy went for supper, loaded the rifle, went out to shoot rabbits, rang Julie & brought June's bike over just before the massacre.

It is also correct that there was no point in him starting arguments  it would make no difference to the 2am attack.

Bamber had no choice to go to supper before the massacre. To make sure everything was in place.

[Kaldin]

Well it is a fact that Jeremy went for supper, loaded the rifle, went out to shoot rabbits, rang Julie & brought June's bike over just before the massacre.

It is also correct that there was no point in him starting arguments  it would make no difference to the 2am attack.

Bamber had no choice to go to supper before the massacre. To make sure everything was in place.

It's interesting that you say it's a fact that Jeremy went for supper and went out to shoot rabbits. You have only his word for that.

Don't know anything about the bicycle.

[Caroline]

I do think there was a conversation about Sheila's future and that of the twins. Whether that contained references to fostering, I have no idea.

I think the convo may have been more about Sheila than the twins because June mentioned being concerned about her to Pam.

[Adam]

It's interesting that you say it's a fact that Jeremy went for supper and went out to shoot rabbits. You have only his word for that.

Don't know anything about the bicycle.

A farm resident heard Bamber leave in his car.

Why would he say he went for supper if he didn't?

Where did Sheila pick up the fully loaded rifle from?

[Jane]

It's interesting that you say it's a fact that Jeremy went for supper and went out to shoot rabbits. You have only his word for that.

Don't know anything about the bicycle.

It wasn't just the murder scene he needed to stage. He had to arrange a whole believable scenario of what led up to it. Other than those phone calls from Barbara Wilson and Pam, he had a free hand.

The bike was June's. Jeremy had 'borrowed' it. Allegedly to give Julie some means of transport. Julie never used it. It's claimed to have been discovered at Bourtree with yellow mud dried on the spokes.

[Kaldin]

A farm resident heard Bamber leave in his car.

Why would he say he went for supper if he didn't?

Where did Sheila pick up the fully loaded rifle from?

Are you now saying that Sheila did pick up the rifle?

You normally question everything that Jeremy said, but now you say you believe him.

[Kaldin]

It wasn't just the murder scene he needed to stage. He had to arrange a whole believable scenario of what led up to it. Other than those phone calls from Barbara Wilson and Pam, he had a free hand.

The bike was June's. Jeremy had 'borrowed' it. Allegedly to give Julie some means of transport. Julie never used it. It's claimed to have been discovered at Bourtree with yellow mud dried on the spokes.

So is this an established fact?

brought June's bike over just before the massacre.

[Adam]

It's possible for Jeremy to committ the masaacre without going for supper beforehand. He could still give the rabbit story.

However that is more risky & there was no harm in a quick visit, monitor & final preperations at WHF.

An independent witness said he heard his car leave WHF. So I believe Jeremy when he said he went to WHF.

[Caroline]

So is this an established fact?

Yes.

[Kaldin]

Yes.

Do you have a link to a statement about that?

[Caroline]

Do you have a link to a statement about that?

He talks about bringing the bike over in his interviews which can be found in 'Statements and Transcripts'

[Kaldin]

It's possible for Jeremy to committ the masaacre without going for supper beforehand. He could still give the rabbit story.

However that is more risky & there was no harm in a quick visit, monitor & final preperations at WHF.

An independent witness said he heard his car leave WHF. So I believe Jeremy when he said he went to WHF.

Of course he'd been to the farm - he worked there. 

[Kaldin]

He talks about bringing the bike over in his interviews which can be found in 'Statements and Transcripts'

OK, I misunderstood what Adam meant. Jeremy brought the bike to his own house a few days or a week before the murders.

I don't really see that the bicycle is particularly relevant.

[Caroline]

OK, I misunderstood what Adam meant. Jeremy brought the bike to his own house a few days or a week before the murders.

I don't really see that the bicycle is particularly relevant.

Well, as you've dismissed much of what is being discussed - what is it you actually do find relevant?