Has Jeremy's final referral run out of steam?

[Jerry]

It appears from everything that I have read that this is Jeremy's last chance of ever having his conviction overturned.  It seems that on previous occasions he has held back certain material as he did not have the confidence that any appeal would succeed.

Given what has been discussed on this forum and the wonderful detective work done by both sides I fail to see what if any evidence can support his innocence.  I fear he is doomed to another 26 years behind bars unless something substantial is uncovered and soon.

[andrea]

Hi jerry alot goes on behind the scenes that we don't hear about, regarding submissions to the CCrc by jb defence team. Just see what happens, time will tell.

[smiffy]

sounding and acting very much like a notorious person I am familiar with Jerry.

[Jerry]

sounding and acting very much like a notorious person I am familiar with Jerry.

Do I know you?   I don't believe I have posted to you before?

[Roch]

sounding and acting very much like a notorious person I am familiar with Jerry.

Do I know you?   I don't believe I have posted to you before?

Smiffy's on the case 

[Jerry]

Hi jerry alot goes on behind the scenes that we don't hear about, regarding submissions to the CCrc by jb defence team. Just see what happens, time will tell.

Must have missed your post Andrea sorry.  I fear that little will come out of the newly provided photographs that hasn't already been discussed at length on this forum.  Only new fresh evidence will  set Jeremy free and after 26 years I fail to see any of that.

[Roch]

Hi jerry alot goes on behind the scenes that we don't hear about, regarding submissions to the CCrc by jb defence team. Just see what happens, time will tell.

Must have missed your post Andrea sorry.  I fear that little will come out of the newly provided photographs that hasn't already been discussed at length on this forum.  Only new fresh evidence will  set Jeremy free and after 26 years I fail to see any of that.

I fear a different kind of problem.  Nobody's interested in what comes out of anything, the photos or otherwise... other than for the purposes of adjusting their own plans for damage limitation.  The law doesn't count if you are Jeremy Bamber?

[Jerry]

Do you think he is innocent Rochford? 

[Roch]

Do you think he is innocent Rochford?

80/20 innocent at present.  Still open to guilty arguments.  I do think that I am blinkered by wanting him to be innocent, so I am probably not as open minded as I should be.

[Jerry]

Do you think he is innocent Rochford?

80/20 innocent at present.  Still open to guilty arguments.  I do think that I am blinkered by wanting him to be innocent, so I am probably not as open minded as I should be.

Why do you believe he may be innocent?

[Roch]

Do you think he is innocent Rochford?

80/20 innocent at present.  Still open to guilty arguments.  I do think that I am blinkered by wanting him to be innocent, so I am probably not as open minded as I should be.

Why do you believe he may be innocent?

I find the prosecution version of events little more than an attempt to conceal what actually happened.  I find the defence version of events a journey to claw back from the prosecution, exactly what did happen.

[Jerry]

Do you think he is innocent Rochford?

80/20 innocent at present.  Still open to guilty arguments.  I do think that I am blinkered by wanting him to be innocent, so I am probably not as open minded as I should be.

Why do you believe he may be innocent?

I find the prosecution version of events little more than an attempt to conceal what actually happened.  I find the defence version of events a journey to claw back from the prosecution, exactly what did happen.

I don't understand what you mean here Rochford.  Are you not letting semantics play a large part in your beliefs?

[Roch]

Do you think he is innocent Rochford?

80/20 innocent at present.  Still open to guilty arguments.  I do think that I am blinkered by wanting him to be innocent, so I am probably not as open minded as I should be.

Why do you believe he may be innocent?

I find the prosecution version of events little more than an attempt to conceal what actually happened.  I find the defence version of events a journey to claw back from the prosecution, exactly what did happen.

I don't understand what you mean here Rochford.  Are you not letting semantics play a large part in your beliefs?

I'm satisfied that there are too many coincidences for there not to be false prosecution case.  This chain of coincidences includes the logs on entry (which had to be won back by taking EP to court), the wet pools of blood and smudges upon Sheila caffell's neck (that are not in the line of flash reflection), the falsification of woodcock's statement contemporaneous with the events relating to entry to the farmhouse (among other falsified and altered material), the fight for the right to take a lie detector test, the passing of the lie detector test, the repeated requests for all evidence to be released, the bland statements but effective coming from police, the long drawn out game of cat and mouse with E.P. etc etc

[smiffy]

your either a liar or a gullible fool to believe JB to be guilty Jerry....

I am not a gullible fool to beleive the prosecution case and find JB to be innocent...his version of what he did is credible yet the prosecution case is bullshit overload that quite frankly should offend people when they are asked to believe such nonsense.

[Jerry]

I'm satisfied that there are too many coincidences for there not to be false prosecution case.  This chain of coincidences includes the logs on entry (which had to be won back by taking EP to court), the wet pools of blood and smudges upon Sheila caffell's neck (that are not in the line of flash reflection), the falsification of woodcock's statement contemporaneous with the events relating to entry to the farmhouse (among other falsified and altered material), the fight for the right to take a lie detector test, the passing of the lie detector test, the repeated requests for all evidence to be released, the bland statements but effective coming from police, the long drawn out game of cat and mouse with E.P. etc etc

But none of this is evidence of his innocence Rochford merely theories in a possible conspiracy after the event.  I believe on a 80/20 basis that he did it and the evidence bears this out.  I am quite willing to be proven wrong however and will be the first to say so if any new evidence is ever produced.