Jeremy Bamber proven innocent?

[Jane]

So you're the only person who'd be alert enough to throw on clothes and be out of the door in 5 minutes ? Lucky you !

 Certainly, I've driven to my parents' house around 3am wearing just a nightdress. You think that's unusual? You think I'm the only one? Dream on.

[lookout]

Whether he was emotionally ready isn't the question. He must have believed he was ready to settle down or he wouldn't have done it. NONE of us knows what the unknown to us is about until it becomes known, ie it's pretty useless talking to a 30 year old about what it feels like to be 60. They CAN'T understand, and won't until they get there.

What do you call " settling down ?" How long was he with the woman ? Not that long I suspect. He was flitting about from one to the other in a world of flattery ( older woman ) and fantasy because he wasn't settled at all he only thought he was. He'd have gone along like that as young men do, but sadly was never given the chance.

[Jane]

What do you call " settling down ?" How long was he with the woman ? Not that long I suspect. He was flitting about from one to the other in a world of flattery ( older woman ) and fantasy because he wasn't settled at all he only thought he was. He'd have gone along like that as young men do, but sadly was never given the chance.

"How long" is irrelevant. I'm willing to bet, that when he moved in with her, he believed this was "IT" and probably wasn't playing the field. That he BELIEVED it was real at the time is what's important.

[lookout]

"How long" is irrelevant. I'm willing to bet, that when he moved in with her, he believed this was "IT" and probably wasn't playing the field. That he BELIEVED it was real at the time is what's important.

At 24 and thinking " this is it ?" Get real. Many who were older felt the same but more often than not were in for a rude awakening and some realised when it was too late. It goes on today among those over 60 who don't know their own minds.

[Steve_uk]

He'd happily jumped into a relationship containing small children without thought or the implications involved. He wasn't a mature character and certainly not ready nor prepared to settle down, least of all with a ready-made family. It can't realistically be imagined at that age, in a man anyway.
JB was a normal 24 year old who didn't want to be tied down. Nothing wrong with that.

I agree with most of this, except it was June and Nevill who broke up the relationship with Suzette under the threat of disinheritance. Can you see how a plan begins to germinate in his mind..

[Caroline]

At 24 and thinking " this is it ?" Get real. Many who were older felt the same but more often than not were in for a rude awakening and some realised when it was too late. It goes on today among those over 60 who don't know their own minds.

So no one gets married under the age of 24? I think it's you who needs to get real and stop thinking about Jeremy as a little boy - he was a grown MAN!

[Jane]

At 24 and thinking " this is it ?" Get real. Many who were older felt the same but more often than not were in for a rude awakening and some realised when it was too late. It goes on today among those over 60 who don't know their own minds.

For God's sake stop thinking for Jeremy, Lookout. Allow him some space for his own thoughts instead of claiming you know everything about him. I wonder if June was the same? It's usually only 24 year olds who still allow their parents to tell them how to live their lives, and adhere to it, who are emotionally unready for the next step. We ALL have to learn for ourselves whether we were right or wrong.

[lookout]

I agree with most of this, except it was June and Nevill who broke up the relationship with Suzette under the threat of disinheritance. Can you see how a plan begins to germinate in his mind..

Steve, there's nothing wrong in backing out of a relationship with inheritance in mind, but it didn't mean that he wanted to help himself before either parent's time was up. JB was beginning to come to his senses and following his head instead of his heart----well his father's head as JB's was half-empty. 

[Jane]

Steve, there's nothing wrong in backing out of a relationship with inheritance in mind, but it didn't mean that he wanted to help himself before either parent's time was up. JB was beginning to come to his senses and following his head instead of his heart----well his father's head as JB's was half-empty.

Perhaps you'd care to explain, what, of Jeremy's behaviours, has led you to the conclusion that "JB was beginning to come to his senses"? It was actually "following his head instead of his heart" that caused the problems. Young men don't screw around with their hearts, they do it with their heads. It probably also follows that if he was thinking with Nevill's head it was the wrong direction for him.

[Caroline]

Steve, there's nothing wrong in backing out of a relationship with inheritance in mind, but it didn't mean that he wanted to help himself before either parent's time was up. JB was beginning to come to his senses and following his head instead of his heart----well his father's head as JB's was half-empty.

Yes, that's right - he had inheritance in mind and he did indeed follow his fathers head, when he shot him four times and battered his skull in.

[Steve_uk]

Steve, there's nothing wrong in backing out of a relationship with inheritance in mind, but it didn't mean that he wanted to help himself before either parent's time was up. JB was beginning to come to his senses and following his head instead of his heart----well his father's head as JB's was half-empty.

I think it shook him up badly and he was on the rebound when he met Julie. She served the purpose of steadying his nerve and inflating his self-esteem, doormat as she was. Remember this crime was all about the power that accompanied money: the feet up on Nevill's desk post-murders signified from whom the power had passed and who was now firmly in charge.

[lookout]

Yes, that's right - he had inheritance in mind and he did indeed follow his fathers head, when he shot him four times and battered his skull in.

Now there's a bloodthirsty answer if ever I saw one. I'd be worried if I thought like that !

[Jane]

Now there's a bloodthirsty answer if ever I saw one. I'd be worried if I thought like that !

Well, I guess that's what the court thought.

[lookout]

Well, I guess that's what the court thought.

And the public when AE took her children to the bedroom where twins had been murdered.

[Steve_uk]

And the public when AE took her children to the bedroom where twins had been murdered.

At least children did inhabit that farmhouse again. I'm sure Daniel and Nicholas would have approved.