Jeremy Bamber proven innocent?

[Caroline]

justifying her actions

Where?

[ILB]

There is no way that copper got his ages mixed up there was two phonecalls

[ILB]

Where?

why did you post her statements if you wasnt meaning to justify Caroline??

[Caroline]

There is no way that copper got his ages mixed up there was two phonecalls

And there is no way Nevill Bamber called the police.

[ILB]

And there is no way Nevill Bamber called the police.

" my daughter is 27 my sister is 26"

[Caroline]

" my daughter is 27 my sister is 26"

And yet she was actually 28, not long had a birthday so her dad was hardly likely to get it wrong. Bamber on the other hand ..... she's 26/27 - Neither log had her correct name because Bamber couldn't remember that she was called Caffell. Again, not something her dad would (coincidently) get wrong (too).

[Caroline]

On the same log

"Message PASSED to CD (control desk - ie. Bonnett), by the SON of MR BAMBER"

[Jane]

There is no way that copper got his ages mixed up there was two phonecalls

Short of being psychic, how do you expect "that copper" -incidentally, it sounds like you have little respect for police- to get right what the caller got wrong? Do you think Jeremy kept a Birthday book to reference family birthdays? I can't think of anything more natural, when being asked for/giving someone's age, than hedging one's bets slightly, unless of course, it's a mother talking about the age of her new baby. She'll probably have it right to the minute. So, given that he accepted that 26/27 was correct, it was of no consequence what wrote and what he passed on, ONE of the ages would be right. As it happens, neither were. She was 28. Perhaps you're suggesting West should have known that? Sheila's age wasn't the only thing Jeremy got wrong, was it? He didn't give her name correctly, either.

[lookout]

So it's now expected that everyone who's wakened at an unearthly hour in the morning gathers themselves together in a split second ,to normality.?
Of course we all leap out of bed every morning as soon as day breaks, don't we ? It's a recognised thing that everyone does so without thought and are immediately ready to face the day.

Ever tried getting young adults out of bed even after the alarm has gone off ??

[Jane]

So it's now expected that everyone who's wakened at an unearthly hour in the morning gathers themselves together in a split second ,to normality.?
Of course we all leap out of bed every morning as soon as day breaks, don't we ? It's a recognised thing that everyone does so without thought and are immediately ready to face the day.

Ever tried getting young adults out of bed even after the alarm has gone off ??

I'd agree if we were talking about adolescents, but this particular "young adult" was old enough to vote, to fight for his country, to marry, and indeed had already had a spell of playing "husband" and "daddy".

[lookout]

I'd agree if we were talking about adolescents, but this particular "young adult" was old enough to vote, to fight for his country, to marry, and indeed had already had a spell of playing "husband" and "daddy".

It still doesn't make them any more capable of leaping up out of bed and immediately putting their brains into gear. I wouldn't have said that JB was an " alert " type of person at the best of times.

[lookout]

He'd happily jumped into a relationship containing small children without thought or the implications involved. He wasn't a mature character and certainly not ready nor prepared to settle down, least of all with a ready-made family. It can't realistically be imagined at that age, in a man anyway.
JB was a normal 24 year old who didn't want to be tied down. Nothing wrong with that.

[Jane]

It still doesn't make them any more capable of leaping up out of bed and immediately putting their brains into gear. I wouldn't have said that JB was an " alert " type of person at the best of times.

And I'd say that when you get an emergency call at that hour of the morning you snap your brain into gear. He could have done just what Nevill allegedly asked of him and driven straight over there BEFORE he realized he was still in his underwear.

[lookout]

And I'd say that when you get an emergency call at that hour of the morning you snap your brain into gear. He could have done just what Nevill allegedly asked of him and driven straight over there BEFORE he realized he was still in his underwear.

So you're the only person who'd be alert enough to throw on clothes and be out of the door in 5 minutes ? Lucky you !

[Jane]

He'd happily jumped into a relationship containing small children without thought or the implications involved. He wasn't a mature character and certainly not ready nor prepared to settle down, least of all with a ready-made family. It can't realistically be imagined at that age, in a man anyway.
JB was a normal 24 year old who didn't want to be tied down. Nothing wrong with that.

Whether he was emotionally ready isn't the question. He must have believed he was ready to settle down or he wouldn't have done it. NONE of us knows what the unknown to us is about until it becomes known, ie it's pretty useless talking to a 30 year old about what it feels like to be 60. They CAN'T understand, and won't until they get there.