Jeremy Bamber proven innocent?

[lookout]

Why hasn't what come to light?

By the way, how do you know her hasn't shown any malice?

This business with Julie----it's taken all of 34 years to realise that all's not well.

If he'd shown bitterness/hatred/malice call it what you like, it would have been well publicised.

[lookout]

Maybe the carts backing up? 

Lost its wheels more like.

[Steve_uk]

I do not want to make too much of it and I have tried to draw a line under past arguments but if you want you can search old posts.  He has been quite personal at times and even accused me of being a public schoolboy once which really hacked me off!

I don't remember having attacked you personally. How personal can you get by raking up a 34-year-old case by trying to find a crack which is irrelevant to the verdict and which may result in discord between Julie and her family?

[Adam]

It will depend upon the circumstances.  In this case I believe there is a lot more to it than has been made public.  I do not believe that JM did come forward voluntarily.  Stan Jones believed in JB's guilt as we know, and he therefore believed JM had covered for him.  JM's friend rather than JM herself made contact with police, Stan Jones then charged round to see her.  What I believe has been concealed and is recorded in non disclosed documents is that JM was in fact arrested at that stage.  I think she was put under intense pressure with threats of being treated as an accomplice and/or being charged with perverting the course of justice.  She was offered the alternative of being treated as a prosecution witness and given immunity from prosecution.  They persuaded her that they had strong evidence against JB so she had limited time to make a decision.  Under that pressure she cracked.  From then on she was kept in a safe house, ostensibly for her own protection but in fact so that police could keep close contact with her until trial.   

Why would the police have to put intense pressure on her. She had already told 5 people. Talking to the police was the natural next step. 

[Jane]

This business with Julie----it's taken all of 34 years to realise that all's not well.

If he'd shown bitterness/hatred/malice call it what you like, it would have been well publicised.

Lookout, unless you were with him 24/7 I'm not sure how it's possible for you to know what are his feelings for Julie. What do you think would happen?? The red tops brandishing the headline "Family Killer Throws Tantrum Over Ex Lover?"

[ILB]

Lookout, unless you were with him 24/7 I'm not sure how it's possible for you to know what are his feelings for Julie. What do you think would happen?? The red tops brandishing the headline "Family Killer Throws Tantrum Over Ex Lover?"

" lewisham"  panda car " " tell all"....

[Caroline]

Some marriages have failed for far less Maggie.

They have been together this long but really NGB is far from her worries - he hasn't said anything detrimental to her or him.

[Caroline]

This business with Julie----it's taken all of 34 years to realise that all's not well.

If he'd shown bitterness/hatred/malice call it what you like, it would have been well publicised.

I very much doubt he say anything publicly, although I do have to say that he wasn't too hostile about her to me - he used to call her Julie Mugshot. However, is attitude towards Colin was despicable!

[Steve_uk]

If JB is guilty JM could properly in law be regarded as an accessory.  You are right in saying that it is not a criminal offence to fail to report a crime (with some exceptions such as in terrorist cases).  However, when originally interviewed by police on her account she gave a false account of her conversation with JB during the night in order to protect him.  That is a criminal offence (in fact it is several).  JM potentially faced a lot of problems.  We have covered this in detail a few years back - you may recall I had some heated exchanges with Steve-UK on the subject.____

Now you're going off onto a tangent. I thought your whole case now was that Julie signed a £25000 deal with a newspaper with the intent to deceive a judge and jury and profit therefrom. If Jeremy Bamber is guilty as you suggest the latter point becomes irrelevant to any future appeal you and your coterie may be planning.

[Caroline]

Now you're going off onto a tangent. I thought your whole case now was that Julie signed a £25000 deal with a newspaper with the intent to deceive a judge and jury and profit therefrom. If Jeremy Bamber is guilty as you suggest the latter point becomes irrelevant to any future appeal you and your coterie may be planning.

Steve, you are seriously on the wrong track here, NGB isn't involved in Bambers case. You really are barking up the wrong tree.

[lookout]

Lookout, unless you were with him 24/7 I'm not sure how it's possible for you to know what are his feelings for Julie. What do you think would happen?? The red tops brandishing the headline "Family Killer Throws Tantrum Over Ex Lover?"

I don't really think I'd be best pleased at being holed-up for 34 years on a whim and I'd have more than thrown a tantrum. The whim being that he dared to drop her for someone else    Revenge can be dangerous.

Julie was the one who threw the tantrum until she realised that she'd bitten off more than she could chew. No wonder she broke down on the defence stand !

[Jane]

Some marriages have failed for far less Maggie.

Steve, there was someone on here, at one time, who actually implied and bragged about having had a hand in alerting the Canadian police to Julie's involvement in the case. This person really didn't care about her family and children learning about her past, they felt she deserved all she had coming to her. That person wasn't NGB.

[Steve_uk]

Why would the police have to put intense pressure on her. She had already told 5 people. Talking to the police was the natural next step.

Of course it was. The cat was out of the bag.

[Steve_uk]

Steve, you are seriously on the wrong track here, NGB isn't involved in Bambers case. You really are barking up the wrong tree.

I thought he was surreptitiously giving succour to the Bamberettes. Every piece of evidence he has proffered on this site from Julie to the silencer has favoured Jeremy Bamber's innocence, not his guilt.

[Jane]

I don't really think I'd be best pleased at being holed-up for 34 years on a whim and I'd have more than thrown a tantrum. The whim being that he dared to drop her for someone else    Revenge can be dangerous.

Julie was the one who threw the tantrum until she realised that she'd bitten off more than she could chew. No wonder she broke down on the defence stand !

None of which has any relevance to my post which was about how you can be so positive that Jeremy never says anything negative regarding Julie.