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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #465 on: May 30, 2011, 12:13:PM »
Routes taken between "tapas bar", and apartment block five, by members iof the "tapas group":-

There were two possible routes that members of the group could take between block five and the "tapas bar" restaurant:-

(1) out of reception, up the road to the junction, turn left and enter the car park at the rear of block five and go down some steps into the general area of the apartments

(2) out of reception, up the road to an alleyway that runs between the apartment block and the poolside restaurant and bar, along that path, until you meet another adjoining alley and footpath that runs between blocks four and five, go along this footpath, and turn right towards apartments

(3) group members could leave block five and go to the "tapas bar", in reverse direction, as specified at (1) and (2), aforementioned...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #466 on: May 30, 2011, 12:25:PM »
MET police need to establish the routes taken by all members of the group that went to the "tapas bar" from their apartments, and back and forth to the "tapas bar" and apartments between initially going out to wine and dine, right up until Maddie was discovered to be missing by Kate at around 10pm...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #467 on: May 30, 2011, 12:29:PM »
Discrepancy about which door Kate used when she went to check on the children at about 10pm?

According to one version of events given to the Portuguese police by Gerry McCann, Kate used her key on the roadside door to gain access to 5a when she went there at about 10pm, but Kate states that she entered by way of the patio door on the poolside of the building - how could the parents get such details mixed up?

So, which route did Kate take, to get from the "tapas bar" restaurant to apartment 5a, on that occasion, (1) or (2), aforementioned?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #468 on: May 30, 2011, 12:31:PM »
Why would Kate go to the roadside door and use her key, if she knew that the patio door on the poolside had been left open?

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #469 on: May 30, 2011, 12:33:PM »
Why would Gerry think Kate used her key on the door at the roadside of the premises, at 10pm, rather than use the open patio door entrance, on the poolside of the building? Surely he would have spoken to Kate before the police arrived to ascertain which way she had gone, and what she discovered upon entering the premises?

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #470 on: May 30, 2011, 12:38:PM »
Things just don't add up

Working on the proviso that Jane Tanner did see a man carrying off a child that could have been Maddie, at about 9.20pm - then when Mathew Oldfield went to the apartment (5a) at about 9:30pm, and he opened the patio door, the bedroom door would have slammed shut because of the vacuum which have been generated, between the open bedroom window and steel shutter, and the open patio door. According to Oldfield this did not happen, and so the bedroom window and steel shutter could not have been open at that time, or by that stage...

Either, Oldfield is / was lying, or Jane tanner was / is lying, or both...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #471 on: May 30, 2011, 12:42:PM »
Similarly, when Kate went to 5a at about 10pm, if she entered via the roadside door, as told to the Portuguese police by Gerry, she would have noticed that the steel shutter at the bedroom window was open along with the window - and if she entered via the open patio door, it would have created a vacuum and slammed shut the bedroom door, if the bedroom window and steel shutter was already open by that stage...

What this alerts everyone to, is the fact that one or more of these persons is not telling the truth about the state of the bedroom window and steel shutter of 5a, that evening...

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #472 on: May 30, 2011, 12:45:PM »
Maddie taken to nearby apartment

I believe that Maddie's body was taken to one of the apartments in the same block that was used by another member of the group, what is not clear, is whether this involved the cooperation and knowlege of one or both parents?

If true...

the only other members of the group that could have been involved in this were:-

(1) Mathew Oldfield
(2) Russell O'Brien
(3) David Payne
(4) Jane Tanner
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #473 on: May 30, 2011, 12:49:PM »
Permutation of  which two, or more, could have pulled off the abduction?

(1) departure of Mathew Oldfield, and Russell O'Brien, from the "tapas bar" at about 9:30pm, to go and check apartment 5a, could be linked to disappearance of Maddie from 5a...

(2) departure of Jane Tanner from "tapas bar" at about 9:15pm, could also be linked...

(3) story about sick child belonging to Tanner and O'Brien, sets off alarm bells ringing...

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #474 on: May 30, 2011, 01:03:PM »
Three potential hiding places where body of Maddie could have originally been concealed - not yet checked by Portuguese police

These three locations might appear to be obvious, but the sad truth of the matter is that none of them have ever been checked not even up to this date:-

(1) the two roof spaces adjoining apartment 5a
(2) roof space adjoining apartment 5f

other potential roof spaces where body could have temporarily been concealed, or displaced...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #475 on: May 30, 2011, 01:11:PM »
Yet to be determined, is whether access to these roof spaces could be accessed from either apartment 5a, 5f, or one of the other apartments, used by a member of the group?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #476 on: May 30, 2011, 04:57:PM »
Mike... all this window shutter business.  Surely if you and others can work it out.. it's not going to take Scotland Yard long to do the same.  Now surely if the McCann's know what happened re Maddie, they must have sussed that more coppers crawling all over the shutter discrepancies isn't going to help their case? 

I'm Just trying to figure out what the hell their game is (if indeed as many suspect, they know far more than they're letting on).
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Yes, I understand this business about the shutters at the window, but I can assure you that I looked very closely at this shutter, and the security device which is in place, and there is no way that anyone could open that bedroom window shutter from the outside, without any help from someone inside the bedroom. Gerry McCann cannot be correct when he says that immediately upon arriving back at the apartment after Kate raised the alarm that Maddie was missing, he went outside after he closed the shutter and was able to raise it all by himself from outside the bedroom window. This could not and did not happen, and so you have to ask the question - why did they make up this lie?

 I can only re-affirm that it would be impossible for anyone outside the bedroom window to open the metal shutter, without any help from  someone inside the bedroom. What this means is that if Maddie was taken through that bedroom window, it had to involve two people, not one...

What this means as far as I am concerned, is that if we are looking at an abduction, it involved two or more persons, not one solitary loner...

Nobody saw two strangers anywhere in the vicinity of 5a that night, there is only the report of a solitary figure seen by Jane Tanner who she claims carried off a child across the road junction between blocks five and six - I regard this sighting as dubious to say the least, I think it was a red herring, a smoke screen, to deflect attention away from what was really taking place......

It's a puzzler alright.  I'm thinking Maddie may have died much earlier than when Kate raised the alarm. What i don't understand is why her death could not have been reported to the authorities in the normal manner as one would expect.  And if there has been some kind of collusion among any members of the Tapas lot, with the aim of concealing of true circs in which Maddie died.. we seem to have another situation where no one cracks.  I can just about buy a 'welded together in collusion' scenario, if the circs of Maddies death meant that the stakes were very high indeed... but i struggle with all this writing to David Cameron stuff.  As double bluffs go Mike, it's risky business to get the Met. involved.   

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #477 on: May 30, 2011, 05:05:PM »
Does anyone think that Mathew Oldfield could have been mistaken for Gerry McCann in the dark?


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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #479 on: May 30, 2011, 05:18:PM »
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