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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: mike tesko on October 06, 2018, 03:23:AM

Title: Blood type A, and blood type O, found on Sheila's nightdress...
Post by: mike tesko on October 06, 2018, 03:23:AM
This establishes that she had contact with one or other victims, Neville Bamber, Nicholas Caffell, and or Daniel Caffell, who all had 'O' type blood!
Title: Re: Blood type A, and blood type O, found on Sheila's nightdress...
Post by: mike tesko on October 06, 2018, 03:25:AM
This establishes that she had contact with one or other victims, Neville Bamber, Nicholas Caffell, and or Daniel Caffell, who all had 'O' type blood!

Why was this crucial evidence missed during the October 1986 Chelmsford Crown Court trial?
Title: Re: Blood type A, and blood type O, found on Sheila's nightdress...
Post by: mike tesko on October 06, 2018, 03:27:AM
Imagine the consequences to the prosecution's case, had Rivlin been able to say that blood from potentially three of the other four victims, had been found upon Sheila Caffell's nightdress?
Title: Re: Blood type A, and blood type O, found on Sheila's nightdress...
Post by: Steve_uk on October 06, 2018, 05:23:PM
This establishes that she had contact with one or other victims, Neville Bamber, Nicholas Caffell, and or Daniel Caffell, who all had 'O' type blood!
Where does this come from?
Title: Re: Blood type A, and blood type O, found on Sheila's nightdress...
Post by: mike tesko on October 06, 2018, 05:57:PM
Where does this come from?

Handwritten Lab' records (not yet posted up)...

It's here, 'A' type blood and 'O' type blood found on Sheila Caffell's light blue Nightdress, Lab' item number 19 - so what this tells someone like me is that Sheila had contact with all the other four victims, with Neville Bamber (type 'O' blood), with Daniel Caffell (type 'O' blood), with Nicholas Caffell (type 'O' blood), and with June Bamber (type 'A' blood), by reference to the bloodstains at nightdress stain 1 (847) shown as blood type 'A', bloodstain 2 (848), shown as blood type 'A', bloodstain at JF192 (833), shown as blood type 'O', bloodstain at BB9 shown as blood type 'O', bloodstain at BB12, shown as blood type 'A', bloodstain at BB16, shown as blood type 'A', bloodstain BB20, shown as blood type 'O', bloodstain at BB21, shown as blood type 'O', and bloodstain BB25, shown as blood type 'O'..

Rather more astonishingly, all the blood type 'A' confirmed as being present on Sheila's nightdress have different codes, (X) 3, (B) 0, (U) 1, and  (X) 2+, (B) 0,  (U) 2 and  (X) 2+, (B) 0,  (U) 3, results which are consistent with this blood coming from a variety of people who as it turned out had 'A' type blood, namely June Bamber and Sheila Caffell', compromising of three different versions of results, which I believe was bloodstains solely from June Bamber in one instance, solely from Sheila herself in one of the other two results, and the third result being an intimate mixture of June's and Sheila's blood types!

You get the same kind of effect when you analyse all the 'O' type blood that was found on Sheila's nightdress, here let's go through it all methodically, we have the following codes, (X) 0, (B) 0, (U) 3 and (X) 0, (B) 0, (U) 2+ - that's two different types of codes from at least two, possibly three 'O' type blood victims, whose blood was found imprinted upon Sheila Caffell's light blue night dress! Neville Bambers blood, Daniel Caffell's blood, and Nicholas Caffell's blood...

The truly astonishing feature in all of this that the blood expert, John Hayward, and another person, dated (6 September 1985) and initialled these Lab' records, and so they all knew that the blood from the other four victims was all over Sheila Caffell's light blue nightdress, Lab' item no. 19 but they must have forgotten to make any mention of it in a witness statement form, or whilst testifying during the trial...

Title: Re: Blood type A, and blood type O, found on Sheila's nightdress...
Post by: mike tesko on October 06, 2018, 07:11:PM
It gets worse I am afraid - because the two bloodstains on the nightdress produced Gm and Km blood grouping results:-

1st bloodstain - (1) 0, (2) 0, (4) 3, (10) 4
2nd bloodstain -  (1) 4, (2) 4, (4) 0, (10) 0

Whereas the corresponding GM and Km blood grouping results relating to the three adult victims of the tragedy produced the following conflicting results:-

Ralph Bamber - (1) 0, (2) 2, (4) 2+, (10) 4
Sheila Caffell - (1) 0, (2) 4, (4) 0, (10) 0
June Bamber - (1) 0, (2) 3, (4) 0, (10) 0


Taking all these results into account it suggested that bloodstain (1) and (2) involved a mixture of conflicting victims bloods! Yet, the blood experts hid this information from the defence, the court and of course the jury!

This evidence combined with the other bloodstain results put the bloods from the other four victims clearly as being present upon Sheila Caffell's nightdress!

Bingo!!!
Title: Re: Blood type A, and blood type O, found on Sheila's nightdress...
Post by: mike tesko on October 06, 2018, 07:16:PM
Don't go away just yet because there's even more information that the blood experts kept quiet about, here look at the following results of bloodstain (1) and bloodstain (2) on the nightdress belonging toSheika Caffell, dated, 21st August 1985:-
Title: Re: Blood type A, and blood type O, found on Sheila's nightdress...
Post by: mike tesko on October 06, 2018, 07:18:PM
The blood grouping results have changed with the passage of time!
Title: Re: Blood type A, and blood type O, found on Sheila's nightdress...
Post by: mike tesko on October 06, 2018, 07:26:PM
The blood grouping results have changed with the passage of time!

Here, let's take a look at the GM and I'm results obtained from Ralph Bambers blood on the 19 August 1985, and the 21 August 1985?


Here are the bloodstains results (1) and (2)

Bloodstain (1st) - (1) 0, (2) 0, (4) 4, (10) 4
Bloodstain (2nd) - (1) 4, (2) 4, (4) 0, (10) 0


Ralph Bamber

(1) 0, (2) 2,  (4) 2+, (10) 4
(1) 0, (2) 1+, (4) 3, (10) 4

Sheila Caffell

(1) 0, (2) 4, (4) 0, (10) 0
(1) 0, (2) 4,  (4) 0, (10) 0

June Bamber

(1) 0, (2) 3, (4) 0, (10) 0
(1) 0, (2) 4, (4) 0, (10) 0

Bloodstain (2) on the nightdress could have been made by either June Bamber or Sheila Caffell - that's a 50 / 50 chance of the blood originating from June or Sheila!

Everything points to the stains on the nightdress being a mixture of different victims bloods, capable of supporting the case for Sheila to have been the killer of the other two adults!
Title: Re: Blood type A, and blood type O, found on Sheila's nightdress...
Post by: mike tesko on October 06, 2018, 07:49:PM
I have one more set of results to post up for now, dated, 6th September 1985, and 3rd September 1985, which I shall be posting up very shortly!
Title: Re: Blood type A, and blood type O, found on Sheila's nightdress...
Post by: mike tesko on October 06, 2018, 09:18:PM
I have one more set of results to post up for now, dated, 6th September 1985, and 3rd September 1985, which I shall be posting up very shortly!

Here it is:-
Title: Re: Blood type A, and blood type O, found on Sheila's nightdress...
Post by: mike tesko on October 06, 2018, 09:22:PM
Look carefully at these results concerning the same samples, with different sets of results - how could this happen?
Title: Re: Blood type A, and blood type O, found on Sheila's nightdress...
Post by: mike tesko on October 06, 2018, 10:33:PM
Look carefully at these results concerning the same samples, with different sets of results - how could this happen?

Seems to me to be a distinct case of the results being tampered with, so that any evidence of other victims blood being present on Sheila Caffell's nightdress, hadn't cropped up at all! For example, no blood from any other victims was found upon Sheila Caffell's nightdress, if you go by one presentation of the results, whereas, blood from several victims, if you go by the other presentation of the results - the Lab' experts, guilty of building the lily to the detriment of Jeremy Bamber having received a fair trial!

How despicable was / is this?

The experts at the Lab' have even initialled both versions of the handwritten Results! Two different documents covering the examination of the bloodstained nightdress worn by Sheila Caffell when she attacked and killed the other four victims!
Title: Re: Blood type A, and blood type O, found on Sheila's nightdress...
Post by: mike tesko on October 07, 2018, 03:19:AM
So...
Title: Re: Blood type A, and blood type O, found on Sheila's nightdress...
Post by: mike tesko on October 07, 2018, 03:21:AM
So...

We are now getting to the bottom of how the cops, it's Lab' experts, and the CPS managed to hoodwink the jury into convicting Jeremy Bamber of murders he did not commit!

The authorities, acting like common criminals, fabricating evidence whenever it suits their purpose..
Title: Re: Blood type A, and blood type O, found on Sheila's nightdress...
Post by: mike tesko on October 07, 2018, 03:22:AM
I haven't finished yet, either...
Title: Re: Blood type A, and blood type O, found on Sheila's nightdress...
Post by: mike tesko on October 07, 2018, 03:26:AM
I haven't finished yet, either...

There are strong grounds for suspecting that the pathologist, Venezis and the ballistic Expert, Fletcher are both guilty of conspiring to pervert the course of justice over the real identity of bullet 'PV/20', just so the prosecution of Jeremy Bamber could be proceeded with on the basis that the death of Sheila Caffell was a one gun crime, where the same gun fired both of the bullets which wounded and killed her!

Peter Venezis, the same pathologist involved in the autopsy of Princess Diana's body..
Title: Re: Blood type A, and blood type O, found on Sheila's nightdress...
Post by: mike tesko on October 07, 2018, 03:35:AM
The truth of the matter is that / was that in the case of the bloodstained nightdress worn by Sheila Caffell it was saturated with the blood of the other victims in various formats of 'A' and 'O' type bloods...

Sheila had contact with all the other four victims who died in this shooting tragedy, the blood results obtained from the examination of Sheila Caffell's nightdress performed on and by 6th September 1985, confirm this - little wonder then that cops had to release Jeremy Bamber after his initial arrest at the beginning of September 1985, because scientifically the blood group evidence obtained from Sheila's nightdress indicated that Sheila Caffell must have been the killer of the other four victims, nothing to do with Jeremy Bamber at all, no evidence whatsoever that he had been present at the scene or that he had had any contact with any or either of the other four victims, whereas in Sheila's case, such evidence had and did exist!
Title: Re: Blood type A, and blood type O, found on Sheila's nightdress...
Post by: mike tesko on October 07, 2018, 03:38:AM
The truth of the matter is that / was that in the case of the bloodstained nightdress worn by Sheila Caffell it was saturated with the blood of the other victims in various formats of 'A' and 'O' type bloods...

Sheila had contact with all the other four victims who died in this shooting tragedy, the blood results obtained from the examination of Sheila Caffell's nightdress performed on and by 6th September 1985, confirm this - little wonder then that cops had to release Jeremy Bamber after his initial arrest at the beginning of September 1985, because scientifically the blood group evidence obtained from Sheila's nightdress indicated that Sheila Caffell must have been the killer of the other four victims, nothing to do with Jeremy Bamber at all, no evidence whatsoever that he had been present at the scene or that he had had any contact with any or either of the other four victims, whereas in Sheila's case, such evidence had and did exist!

By the end of September 1985, the experts at the Lab' had created a different version of the results of the examination of Sheila's bloodstained nightdress! Suddenly, there was no reference at all to the variously different types of blood group evidence which had been found upon it - suddenly her nightdress was seemingly absent of any other victims blood types...
Title: Re: Blood type A, and blood type O, found on Sheila's nightdress...
Post by: mike tesko on October 07, 2018, 03:55:AM
From that point onwards, the prosecution proceeded to rely upon evidence which tended to show that Sheila Caffell had not and did not kill herself, whilst at the same time disassociating her nightdress from having been contaminated with blood from each of the other victims! Instead, they introduced the dodgy silencer, blood and paint evidence to suggest that with the Silencer fitted to the guns barrel that the overall length of the weapon so configured would have been much too long to enable Sheila to have shot herself twice with it! Moreover, that Sheila could not possibly have removed the silencer from the guns barrel after she killed herself with use of it, and transport it all the way downstairs to conceal not in a box in the gun cupboard, before returning back upstairs to lay down dead again on the main bedroom floor!

They used the dodgy blood group evidence obtained from blood which was supposedly found inside the silencer (DRB/1), 12th, 13th, 18th and 19th September 1985, that belonged uniquely and exclusively to Sheila Caffell, as if the blood group evidence themselves somehow proved that Sheila hadn't killed herself, but that rather she had been killed by Jeremy! But, the silencer to which this blood group evidence was associated to and with, wasn't even present at the Lab' on the occasion when between them the ballistic expert, Fletcher and the blood group expert, Hayward, supposedly dismantled it and discovered the all important blood inside the silencer by 12th September 1985 - the silencer 'DRB/1' did not even get submitted to the Lab' to be checked for blood until 20th September 1985, which fell after the dates when blood had supposedly already been found inside it...

Almost everything of any evidential value in the prosecution of Jeremy Bamber was / is dodgy!