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OTHER HIGH PROFILE CASES => Other high profile cases => Topic started by: nugnug on July 18, 2017, 02:35:PM

Title: kevin cooper.
Post by: nugnug on July 18, 2017, 02:35:PM
https://youtu.be/Z2wWSXiBgLU
Title: kevin cooper.
Post by: nugnug on July 18, 2017, 02:36:PM
another highly dubios conviction.

https://youtu.be/Z2wWSXiBgLU
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: Steve_uk on July 19, 2017, 10:11:PM
He was in the adjacent flat at the time of the murders. It's the same old story of strong circumstantial evidence with the suggestion of Police corruption.
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: nugnug on July 19, 2017, 11:35:PM
but theres the litlee problem of all the eye witnesses including the surbing victem saying it wa a white man.
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: Steve_uk on July 19, 2017, 11:41:PM
but theres the litlee problem of all the eye witnesses including the surbing victem saying it wa a white man.
He didn't actually say it. From the film it says he squeezed a police officer's hand to elicit a yes or a no answer. He changed his testimony afterwards anyway. For the accused to be innocent he has to escape from prison, just happen to find a hideaway in the night in question in the whole of California where a quadruple homicide occurs and be unlucky enough that law enforcement planted his DNA in order to send an innocent man to the electric chair.
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: nugnug on July 19, 2017, 11:57:PM
the dna evdence has allready been debunked.

its a proper profile.
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: Steve_uk on July 20, 2017, 12:08:AM
the dna evdence has allready been debunked.

its a proper profile.
Well as I say if you consider all Police corrupt in all cases you will believe him innocent.
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: nugnug on July 20, 2017, 11:58:AM
if your were attacked by a blackman wouldent you rember it was a black man.

I know eye witness get things wrong but you cant mistake somone colour.
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: Steve_uk on July 20, 2017, 07:21:PM
if your were attacked by a blackman wouldent you rember it was a black man.

I know eye witness get things wrong but you mistake somone colour.
There may have been an accomplice, but Josh Ryen now doesn't recall anything about the intruder. https://youtu.be/g-KNm_BPXOM
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: David1819 on July 20, 2017, 10:08:PM
They know who committed the murders. Unfortuantly for the cooper the police found out too late. By then they had already falsified the evidence believing cooper was the real killer. There was no going back.

5441C OOPER v. BROWN
On June 9, Roper examined the coveralls that Furrow had left at her house on the night of the murders. She called her father, who then called the SBCSD. ER 1591, 4895. According to SBCSD Deputy Eckley, who was dispatched to Roper’s house, the coveralls were “heavily splattered” with blood. ER 1578. Deputy Eckley took the coveralls into evidence and gave a report to his supervisor. ER 1582. Deputy Eckley’s report, dated June 10, 1983, stated that Roper “suspects that

the bloody coveralls are from the Chino murders and has further information regarding that incident and/or possible suspect/s.” ER 3105. As will be recounted in more detail below, Deputy Eckley discarded the coveralls in a dumpster during Cooper’s preliminary hearing in his capital case. Deputy Eckley claimed at trial that he acted alone in destruction of the bloody coveralls. However, the initials “KS” on the Disposition Report for the coveralls indicate that Senior SBCSD Deputy Ken Schneckengast approved the destruction.
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: Steve_uk on July 20, 2017, 11:10:PM
They know who committed the murders. Unfortuantly for the cooper the police found out too late. By then they had already falsified the evidence believing cooper was the real killer. There was no going back.

5441C OOPER v. BROWN
On June 9, Roper examined the coveralls that Furrow had left at her house on the night of the murders. She called her father, who then called the SBCSD. ER 1591, 4895. According to SBCSD Deputy Eckley, who was dispatched to Roper’s house, the coveralls were “heavily splattered” with blood. ER 1578. Deputy Eckley took the coveralls into evidence and gave a report to his supervisor. ER 1582. Deputy Eckley’s report, dated June 10, 1983, stated that Roper “suspects that

the bloody coveralls are from the Chino murders and has further information regarding that incident and/or possible suspect/s.” ER 3105. As will be recounted in more detail below, Deputy Eckley discarded the coveralls in a dumpster during Cooper’s preliminary hearing in his capital case. Deputy Eckley claimed at trial that he acted alone in destruction of the bloody coveralls. However, the initials “KS” on the Disposition Report for the coveralls indicate that Senior SBCSD Deputy Ken Schneckengast approved the destruction.

So you have Cooper, whose telephone calls were tracked to the empty apartment 100 yards from the crime scene. You have his speck of blood (41) at the crime scene inside the Ryen's house. But now you want Lee Furrow to have deliberately targeted that house for some reason, coincidentally on the same night Cooper is present, yet no clear motive exists.

If you'd said three Mexican men had targeted the family because they were refused work earlier in the day I would have been more inclined to concur.
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: nugnug on July 23, 2017, 12:31:PM
100 yards away from the crime scene is not the same as being at the crime scene.

he was in the area so were loads of other people.

just being near a crime scene on its own. doesnt implicate you in the crime.
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: Steve_uk on July 23, 2017, 05:29:PM
100 yards away from the crime scene is not the same as being at the crime scene.

he was in the area so were loads of other people.

just being near a crime scene on its own. doesnt implicate you in the crime.
No but there was a speck of his blood in the Ryen's home, exhibit 41. If you believe it was planted then that's up to you.
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: nugnug on July 27, 2017, 07:43:PM
https://youtu.be/Bi4LInQTBZ4
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: nugnug on July 27, 2017, 07:45:PM
Well as I say if you consider all Police corrupt in all cases you will believe him innocent.

well the police were undenaible courupt in this case witholding evdence geting a little boy to change his story if thats not corupt i dont know what is.
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: maggie on July 27, 2017, 08:30:PM
Well as I say if you consider all Police corrupt in all cases you will believe him innocent.
That is true but as we know police can be corrupt surely it should never be dismissed out of hand but rather accepted as a possibility. 
You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to be aware of corruption in the criminal justice system as well as other establishments   
Anyone who has read the story of what happened to Christopher Alder are in no doubt that things can go very wrong and cover ups can be incredible by those seeking to save their own skin.  His family are still fighting for the truth.
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: nugnug on July 27, 2017, 09:31:PM
more about the evdence https://youtu.be/5Xo0Se7h3pk

i dont think you can actully get more corupt than this.
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: Steve_uk on July 28, 2017, 12:30:AM
more about the evdence https://youtu.be/5Xo0Se7h3pk

i dont think you can actully get more corupt than this.
7:09: "He never joined a gang, he doesn't have a tattoo..he's his own man.."

Please! When the eulogy has finished read the youtube comment left by Greg Ahrens:

 

Greg Ahrens1 year ago
J. Patrick O’Connor positions Kevin Cooper as the unluckiest man to walk the earth. First, someone who looks exactly like him with the same DNA rapes a teenage girl (holding a screwdriver to the back of her head and threatening to kill her) in Pennsylvania. This happens right before he takes a trip to California. There he is arrested for burglary and sentenced to a minimum-security prison. Simply tired of the prison life, he escapes and settles in to an abandoned house next door to the Ryen family. An hour after he called associates asking for a ride and being turned down, he decides to hitchhike out of town. Although Kevin is a habitual car thief, he decides that he will turn over a new leaf this night and stroll right past the Ryen station wagon with the keys in the car. This is where his luck really goes south. Three white murderers happen to stop at the Ryen house minutes after Kevin has left and slaughter the family. They stole an ax and knife from the house Cooper was staying in. They also steal the station wagon that Kevin passed up minutes earlier. These killers left no evidence at the crime scene but they all happened to wear the same size shoe as Cooper with the same prison-issue tread pattern. Then these killers walked down to the abandoned home where Cooper was staying and showered – again careful to leave no trace of evidence that they were there. Cooper’s bad luck doesn’t stop there. Not one person speaks up to verify that they picked up an African American male wearing prison attire hitchhiking in the middle of the night and drove them to Tijuana. On top of that, the “three white killers” abandoned the stolen car near the border – right where Cooper crossed – again leaving no trace of evidence. And the bad luck continues. Cooper joins a couple on a boat and before he knows it, he is being accused of raping the woman at knifepoint. Then, at the exact same moment the police arrive at the boat to question him, he happens to take a leisurely swim off the side of the boat – making it look like he was trying to escape. But the really bad luck is yet to come. The San Bernardino Sheriff’s department – simply wanting to convict somebody – anybody – decide to frame poor Kevin for the murders by planting his DNA at the crime scene, the house next door, on the ax used during the murders, on a discarded tee shirt and in the stolen car. They also planted prison issue tobacco in the car with Kevin’s DNA. On top of that, all the witnesses presented at the trial were liars and the judge was bias. This incredible string of bad luck continued when a pair of coveralls with red spots was found at the home of Diane Roper – 40 minutes away from the crime scene. A deputy dispatched to pick them up reported that Diane’s father was sure they were used in the murders because Diane (a self-professed witch) had a vision during a trance that proved it! Case closed. Right? No. The deputy reported that there were just a few red dots below the knees and they looked like paint, not blood. Obviously he was part of the massive cover-up and discarded the coveralls. The list of participants in this great injustice boggles the mind. The witnesses, police, sheriffs, investigators, and many layers of appeal judges were all in on this carefully orchestrated framing of poor, unlucky Kevin Cooper. Bad luck indeed.
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: nugnug on July 28, 2017, 01:28:AM
why the hell would i want a youtube coment since when has coment on youtube counted as evdence.

a coment by by an anon youtube poster doesnt mean anything.
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: Steve_uk on July 28, 2017, 02:09:AM
why the hell would i want a youtube coment since when has coment on youtube counted as evdence.

a coment by by an anon youtube poster doesnt mean anything.
I'd be interested to know just what evidence you do accept.
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: nugnug on January 20, 2019, 10:55:PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kevin-cooper-jerry-brown-1983-chino-hills-calif-quadruple-slayings-new-dna-tests-ordered/
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: nugnug on February 26, 2019, 05:35:PM
https://youtu.be/Bse8prCm9gw
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: Steve_uk on February 28, 2019, 05:12:PM
https://youtu.be/Bse8prCm9gw
It's not safe for Kevin Cooper ever to mix with the general public, so to that extent whether he committed the Chino Hills massacre is purely academic. However if law enforcement is guilty of planting evidence the perpetrators should be behind bars, along with whoever these three white men (or were they Mexicans) are.
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: nugnug on February 28, 2019, 05:58:PM
It's not safe for Kevin Cooper ever to mix with the general public, so to that extent whether he committed the Chino Hills massacre is purely academic. However if law enforcement is guilty of planting evidence the perpetrators should be behind bars, along with whoever these three white men (or were they Mexicans) are.

well its not ademic to him hes on death  row.
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: Steve_uk on February 28, 2019, 06:11:PM
well its not ademic to him hes on death  row.
California hasn't executed anyone for 12 years and I doubt they will again. Cooper is a nutcase anyway who belongs in a facility for the criminally insane.
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: nugnug on February 28, 2019, 06:20:PM
California hasn't executed anyone for 12 years and I doubt they will again. Cooper is a nutcase anyway who belongs in a facility for the criminally insane.

why
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: Steve_uk on February 28, 2019, 06:36:PM
why
Because he was committed to one in Pennsylvania and should never have been released from it.
Title: Re: kevin cooper.
Post by: nugnug on March 01, 2019, 04:54:PM
Because he was committed to one in Pennsylvania and should never have been released from it.

why should he never of been relsed clearly the doctors though otherwise.