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Title: scott peterson.
Post by: nugnug on September 15, 2017, 12:11:AM
i allways thought he was guilty as hell but now I'm not so sure.

https://youtu.be/ePQgg6odPtQ
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: Steve_uk on September 15, 2017, 08:11:PM
i allways thought he was guilty as hell but now I'm not so sure.

https://youtu.be/ePQgg6odPtQ
It looks like an open and shut case to me, with echoes from Mark Lundy, Jeremy Bamber and Paula Gilfoyle running through my mind.  https://youtu.be/3XNFCE6lkv0
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: nugnug on September 15, 2017, 08:17:PM
well thers a bit more then the clip ive just posted yes on the face of it certainly looked like that but thres a bit more to it.
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: Steve_uk on September 15, 2017, 08:21:PM
well thers a bit more then the clip ive just posted yes on the face of it certainly looked but thres a bit more to it.
Well can you point me to it because I've sat through the 40 minutes and the only thing the Defence seemed to have is that Laci knew her husband had bought a boat.
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: nugnug on September 15, 2017, 08:28:PM
here.

http://people.com/crime/laci-peterson-murder-was-evidence-lost-that-points-to-scotts-innocence/
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: Steve_uk on September 15, 2017, 09:12:PM
here.

http://people.com/crime/laci-peterson-murder-was-evidence-lost-that-points-to-scotts-innocence/
Well I've learned not to underestimate you after you reminded me the suicide notes in the Eddie Gilfoyle case weren't adduced in court. There's a woman here who claims Peterson had confessed to her. I don't know enough about this case to know whether he could have killed her at a later time.  http://www.modbee.com/news/local/article3099445.html
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: nugnug on September 15, 2017, 09:21:PM
well at first I thought they new witness miht of just been mistaken and it was somebody else they say walking a dog but to many have come forward now to make that really credible.

unless theres another woman who looks a lot like lacy and has the same dog.
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: David1819 on September 18, 2017, 05:34:AM
Its always been a flimsy conviction based on a few strands of circumstantial evidence.

- He spoke of his wife in the past tense before she was confirmed dead.

- He told a girlfriend he lost his wife (before she went missing).

- He sold some of his wife's belongings before while she was missing and not confirmed dead.

Lousy evidence because there was no physical evidence. I keep an open mind.

http://www.alluc.ee/l/the-murder-of-laci-peterson-s01e04-the-trial-begins-480p-web-dl-x264-rmteam-mp4/aaplluek (http://www.alluc.ee/l/the-murder-of-laci-peterson-s01e04-the-trial-begins-480p-web-dl-x264-rmteam-mp4/aaplluek)
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: nugnug on September 18, 2017, 10:55:AM
i thought he was guilty just becouse the body was found at sea and he was on a boat that day but i cant see all these witness who say the saw his wife walking the dog could be wrong and theyve got no reason to lie.

i mean 1 or 2 could be mistaken but 33 i dont think they could of all got it wrong.
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: nugnug on September 22, 2017, 01:05:PM
acording to the police witness sightings were not a priority

funny thing to say in a missing persons case.

http://www.scottpetersonappeal.org/
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: JackieD on September 23, 2017, 08:56:PM
i allways thought he was guilty as hell but now I'm not so sure.

https://youtu.be/ePQgg6odPtQ

I have followed this case for ages Nugs
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: nugnug on September 23, 2017, 09:04:PM
i thought he did it just becouse and he was on aboat that day and the body was found at sea. but now it seems more or less impossble to have actully done the deed.

so unless they can prove the exitence of a hitman he really should be released.
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: Steve_uk on September 23, 2017, 09:58:PM
i thought he did it just becouse and he was on aboat that day but now it seems more or less impossble to have actully done the deed.

so unless they can prove the exitence of a hitman he really should be released.
I think this is the classic love triangle: no more, no less. http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/scott-peterson-amber-frey-murder-142327
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: nugnug on September 23, 2017, 10:30:PM
i thought a bit odd to want to go fishing on christmass eve. but i cant really declare somone guilty of murder becouse of it.
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: Steve_uk on September 23, 2017, 10:40:PM
i thought a bit odd to want to go fishing on christmass eve. but i cant really declare somone guilty of murder becouse of it.
But the body was found within two miles of where he was fishing. Given the vastness of the USA's waters I would have thought that was enough proof combined with the other circumstantial evidence.
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: nugnug on September 23, 2017, 11:29:PM
yes and several month later giving time for somebody else to have put it there and as hes was already being publically named as a suspect dumping the body would be an ideal way to pin it on him and take the blame of yourself.
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: Steve_uk on September 24, 2017, 12:01:AM
yes and several month later giving time for somebody else to have put it there and as hes was already being publically named as a suspect dumping the body would be an ideal way to pin it on him and take the blame of yourself.
Well I would have thought the Defence would have checked her personal life and whether she had any enemies.
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: nugnug on September 24, 2017, 12:44:AM
yes but lack of another suspect doesn't make somone guilty.

they cant oh well we cant find any credible suspects so her husband must of bumped her.

Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: nugnug on July 31, 2019, 10:36:PM
https://www.scottpetersonappeal.org/
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: Steve_uk on August 01, 2019, 08:25:PM
https://www.scottpetersonappeal.org/

The question I'd want to ask him is why not just divorce her, as Laci's mother pondered after the verdict? I can only surmise that he was so star-struck with his new blonde lover that he fantasised a whole new life for them both unencumbered, selling the family home and with the proceeds moving closer to water for boating, able uncomprehendingly to dismiss all past behaviours including attending Lamaze classes, choosing baby clothes and fixing the crib..https://youtu.be/r2UIg5BUKvQ
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: nugnug on August 01, 2019, 08:39:PM
The question I'd want to ask him is why not just divorce her, as Laci's mother pondered after the verdict? I can only surmise that he was so star-struck with his new blonde lover that he fantasised a whole new life for them both unencumbered, selling the family home and with the proceeds moving closer to water for boating, able uncomprehendingly to dismiss all past behaviours including attending Lamaze classes, choosing baby clothes and fixing the crib..https://youtu.be/r2UIg5BUKvQ

dident wnt h cost of a divorce and child support it has cost him  lot more now though.
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: Steve_uk on August 01, 2019, 08:46:PM
dident wnt h cost of a divorce and child support it has cost him  lot more now though.
It's surely a huge leap into fantasy to go from one plan to the other.
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: notsure on August 03, 2019, 08:35:PM
Didn’t the burglars get caught in a jailhouse phone conversation about laci and shut up before anything else was said.

It’s very fishy the police tried to say the burglary didn’t happen until later then the journalist said it couldn’t have happened that day as he was outside from silly o’clock in the morning and that no burglary took place that day.

I don’t understand why the police didn’t look into the burglary properly and I don’t understand why the defence didn’t call all the people who  said they had seen her dog walking.

Bizarre
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: notsure on August 03, 2019, 08:39:PM
The police saying it was a slam dunk was a little bit headed imo. They had made there minds up and that was that.

What was also disturbing is the crowds outside the courthouse clapping and partying after the verdict and abusing his family. And the jurors giving there opinions the way they did. It makes a complete mockery of America’s justice system which is a complete joke anyway.

Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: David1819 on August 03, 2019, 09:01:PM
The question I'd want to ask him is why not just divorce her, as Laci's mother pondered after the verdict? I can only surmise that he was so star-struck with his new blonde lover that he fantasised a whole new life for them both unencumbered, selling the family home and with the proceeds moving closer to water for boating, able uncomprehendingly to dismiss all past behaviours including attending Lamaze classes, choosing baby clothes and fixing the crib..https://youtu.be/r2UIg5BUKvQ

The prosecution argument was that he did not want a kid or be with Laci. Divorce wont solve that problem as he would still need to pay child support.

However I do think its very plausible that this was not as premeditated as some think. Its very possible he got into an argument that boiled over and he ended up strangling her to death.

He told his lover that he had lost his wife (before she went missing) and that he would be spending Christmas alone. That is about all the evidence there is for premeditation.
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: David1819 on August 03, 2019, 09:15:PM
i thought a bit odd to want to go fishing on christmass eve. but i cant really declare somone guilty of murder becouse of it.

He claims he went fishing on Christmas eve (the night she vanished). No only that but he claims he went fishing in the waters close to where her and the babys body washed up.

Furthermore Laci's arms and legs were missing. This is consistent with her arms and legs being tied to anchors. Her torso later broke free and washed up. Scott was in possestion of such anchors. IIRC they could work out that some were missing.

Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: nugnug on August 04, 2019, 10:46:PM
im starting to think scott did it bcouse f the lack of truma to th dog.

i men if  that dog had seen bad things happen to its owner  itshould show sighns  trauma of it but the dog didnt seem to show any
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: David1819 on August 04, 2019, 10:49:PM
imstrting to think scott did bcouse f the lack of trum to th dog.

i men that seen bad thins happen to its owner should show sighns of it but the dog didnt seem to show any

Sorry. But I cannot understand what you have just written.
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: David1819 on August 09, 2019, 11:37:AM
They say Scott Peterson was attempting to disguise himself and flee. Because of his new appearance


http://pwc-sii.com/CourtDocs/Exhibits/P-289.pdf (http://pwc-sii.com/CourtDocs/Exhibits/P-289.pdf)


I agree. Suddenly you have blonde hair and a beard (that is also dyed blonde)  ::)
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: David1819 on August 10, 2019, 03:08:PM
They say Scott Peterson was attempting to disguise himself and flee. Because of his new appearance


http://pwc-sii.com/CourtDocs/Exhibits/P-289.pdf (http://pwc-sii.com/CourtDocs/Exhibits/P-289.pdf)


I agree. Suddenly you have blonde hair and a beard (that is also dyed blonde)  ::)

Someone has given me a list of the stuff he had in his car when he was arrested. Looks like he was indeed going to go off the radar. Not the actions of an innocent man.


-$15,000
-BROTHER'S I.D.-John Edward Peterson
-2 VISA CARDS & 1 MASTERCARD - Scott's Name
-1 MASTER CARD - Scott/Tradecorp
-1 AMERICAN BUSINESS CARD - Scott/Tradecorp
-SISTER'S VISA CREDIT CARD -Ann E. Bird
-MOTHER'S CHEVRON CARD - Jackie Peterson
-FOREIGN CURRENCY (for Mexico)
-MAPQUEST MAP TO AMERICAN BODYWORKS
-4 CELL PHONES
-LARGE TENT
-TENT COVER
-WATER PURIFICATION SYSTEM
-CAMP KIT WITH COOKING UTENSILS & ROPE
-CAMP STOVE
-COOKING GRILL
-FIRE STARTERS
-FILET KNIFE
-2 FOLDING KNIVES
-TENT CHAIR
-COMPASS
-DRIED AND CANNED FOOD
-CLIMBING EQUIPMENT & ROPES
-DOUBLE EDGED DAGGER WITH A T-HANDLE
-HAND SHOVEL
-DUCT TAPE
-FOLDING SAW
-BACKPACK
-BINOCULARS
-MASK & SNORKEL
-FISHING ROD & REEL
-ZIPLOC BAGS
-SCISSORS
-CAMP AXE
-HAMMOCK
-LEATHERMAN TOOL
-THOMAS GUIDE MAP BOOK OF CALIFORNIA
-THOMAS GUIDE MAP BOOK OF CENTRAL VALLEY
CITIES AND SURROUNDING AREAS.

-2 PACKS RAZOR BLADES
-9 PAIR OF SHOES
-RUBBERIZED BOOTS - Lace up
-HIKING BOOTS
-LOW TOP HIKING BOOTS
-2 PAIR BROWN SLIP-ON CASUAL SHOES
-FLIP FLOPS (Sandals)
-2 PAIR BLACK DRESS SHOES
-2 PAIR DRESS SOCKS
-2 NECKTIES
-10 PAIR ATHLETIC SOCKS
-1 PULLOVER SWEATER
-1 SCARF
-1 BLACK DRESS BELT
-RAIN PANTS
-SWEATSHIRT
-AT LEAST 6 PAIR UNDERWARE BRIEFS
-4 PULLOVER LONG-SLEEVED SPORT SHIRTS
-2 PAIR SHORTS
-1 BUTTON DOWN SHIRT
-2 PAIR CASUAL PANTS
-1 PAIR RUNNING PANTS
-1 PAIR LEVI JEANS
-1 JERSEY
-3 T-SHIRTS
-2 LONG-SLEEVED CASUAL SHIRTS
-1 PAIR ATHLETIC SHORTS
-COWBOY HAT
-12 TABLETS OF VIAGRA
-24 BLISTER PACKS OF SLEEPING PILLS
-WATER BOTTLE
-16 MUSIC CD'S
-COLUMBIA FOUL WEATHER JACKET
-SLEEPING BAG
-LEATHER GLOVES
-WATERPROOFING SPRAY
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: nugnug on August 10, 2019, 03:45:PM
i would a dog that had seen somthing bad happen to its owener would show sighns of it it would be upset but the dog seemed perfectly happy that would indicate hatt stacy was not atacked while walking the dog.
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: David1819 on August 10, 2019, 06:18:PM
i would a dog that had seen somthing bad happen to its owener would show sighns of it it would be upset but the dog seemed perfectly happy that would indicate hatt stacy was not atacked while walking the dog.

Yeah.

All his supporters just seem to be women that send him love letters. Over on IA its the same bunch of women spreading misinformation. No credible arguments.
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: Steve_uk on August 11, 2019, 10:48:PM
i would a dog that had seen somthing bad happen to its owener would show sighns of it it would be upset but the dog seemed perfectly happy that would indicate hatt stacy was not atacked while walking the dog.
But the husband is not going to attack his wife in full view as she's walking the dog in the park. The indentation on the bed suggested that she had been smothered there, as did the fractured ribs which occurred perimortem.
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: nugnug on August 11, 2019, 10:58:PM
But the husband is not going to attack his wife in full view as she's walking the dog in the park. The indentation on the bed suggested that she had been smothered there, as did the fractured ribs which occurred perimortem.

its scotts contention that stacy was going to walk the dog and somthing happend to her while she was doing that after he had left.

the dog was found running loose by the woman living next door to scott the proscution contend scott let the dog out himself.

im inclined to agrea withthem i cant be certan of guilt but the evdence seems to point strongly towards it.
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: David1819 on August 11, 2019, 11:11:PM
He was on TV appealing for her to come home or witnesses to come forward ect ect. All while he was selling off her Jewelry on Ebay.

The inference can be drawn that he knew she was dead and never coming home.
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: nugnug on August 12, 2019, 10:06:PM
theres more about it here it doesnt seem that clear cut.

http://www.pwc-sii.com/CourtDocs/Exhibits/D-N.pdf
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: nugnug on March 12, 2020, 11:26:PM
http://thetroublewithjustice.com/2015/01/25/scott-peterson-was-not-entitled-to-a-perfect-trial-but-he-was-entitled-to-a-fair-one-he-received-neither/?fbclid=IwAR1tIGefX_JYKWyZTPKDX6HTxqilVzd0q82BL1kvOWvGaqthx1kH-Ky0ZDA
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: JackieD on March 13, 2020, 10:46:AM
http://thetroublewithjustice.com/2015/01/25/scott-peterson-was-not-entitled-to-a-perfect-trial-but-he-was-entitled-to-a-fair-one-he-received-neither/?fbclid=IwAR1tIGefX_JYKWyZTPKDX6HTxqilVzd0q82BL1kvOWvGaqthx1kH-Ky0ZDA

Now I’m fascinated
Thanks Nugs
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: nugnug on March 13, 2020, 05:12:PM
But the body was found within two miles of where he was fishing. Given the vastness of the USA's waters I would have thought that was enough proof combined with the other circumstantial evidence.

thats a very good point i thought it was a tiny bit strange on christmas eve anyway but i cant really say his guilty becouse of that alone.
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: nugnug on April 15, 2020, 08:23:PM
the appeal.

https://www.scottpetersonappeal.org/appeal-information.html?fbclid=IwAR0DkhgHSgTXY7YdHvE5aoghb8UXX18cchWeTou1amSTmPQugnsjGiB-qAM
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: Steve_uk on December 09, 2021, 09:34:PM
He's back in the news.  https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/scott-peterson-resentenced-to-life-in-prison-for-killing-wife-and-unborn-child/ar-AARClN5?ocid=msedgntp
Title: Re: scott peterson.
Post by: nugnug on December 09, 2021, 09:46:PM
im not sure were i stand on i was guilty then i was innoee then i was for guilty agian now i am not really sure.