Jeremy Bamber Forum
JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: IndigoJ on August 06, 2018, 09:49:PM
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Just curious to know if a reconstruction of the crime has ever taken place? ie some one shooting the same number of shots , in the same layout of the house , with the same gun ? also it being done by a woman the same age , height and weight as SC?
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There had been a " reconstruction " of sorts, but alas EP had said that nobody had been moved ? ::)
Anyone who sees photographs of Sheila know that the whole scene is contrived which is what the jury had been shown and not the original scene as it had happened so misleading the jury into thinking that Jeremy had restaged Sheila's body before leaving the farmhouse.
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I think from the perspective of "seeing" how a woman matching SC would actually be able to fire that many shots , and reload the gun etc would help in deciding how believable it is that SC could have done this.
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Maybe we could get Nick Ross and Sue Cook to come out of retirement specially.
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Maybe we could get Nick Ross and Sue Cook to come out of retirement specially.
well i dont know i think Sue Cook might be a bit old to step in as SC's replacement :-X
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I think from the perspective of "seeing" how a woman matching SC would actually be able to fire that many shots , and reload the gun etc would help in deciding how believable it is that SC could have done this.
But that wouldn't be like for like would it? SC was supposed to be in the throws of psychosis, you would also need to make sure the person in question wasn't aware of the mgazie or how it was attached/detached or that they needed to chamber the first shot and how to do that.
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But that wouldn't be like for like would it? SC was supposed to be in the throws of psychosis, you would also need to make sure the person in question wasn't aware of the mgazie or how it was attached/detached or that they needed to chamber the first shot and how to do that.
i dont think we would need her in the throws of psychosis but we would need her to have the same knowledge of how to fire the gun as SC had ,
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I have made a partial reconstruction that demonstrates June and Nevill being shot upstairs. I done this using 3D rendering software. Its a very time consuming process. I would ideally like to make a full reconstruction of both a Sheila and Jeremy scenario. But I have no time or motivation to make this happen. Also I would probably need a more powerful PC. :-\
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I have made a partial reconstruction that demonstrates June and Nevill being shot upstairs. I done this using 3D rendering software. Its a very time consuming process. I would ideally like to make a full reconstruction of both a Sheila and Jeremy scenario. But I have no time or motivation to make this happen. Also I would probably need a more powerful PC. :-\
a pc demonstration is interesting in terms of where the shots were fired etc but i dont think anything other than a "real" reconstruction with an SC "replica" for want of a better word, would give us an idea of what it would take for a woman the same age, height , weight and experience of guns, would do.
did you post your reconstruction online at all?
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well i dont know i think Sue Cook might be a bit old to step in as SC's replacement :-X
Well I meant as presenters of some special Crimewatch show rather than the lead protagonists.
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Well I meant as presenters of some special Crimewatch show rather than the lead protagonists.
I know, it was my attempt at "humour" :o
but really i dont think it would be a reconstruction for some "crime watch" type of programme ,
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I know, it was my attempt at "humour" :o
but really i dont think it would be a reconstruction for some "crime watch" type of programme ,
Well I don't see how some computer re-enactment could work either.
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i dont think we would need her in the throws of psychosis but we would need her to have the same knowledge of how to fire the gun as SC had ,
Her state of mind would affect her ability to perform the task.
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a pc demonstration is interesting in terms of where the shots were fired etc but i dont think anything other than a "real" reconstruction with an SC "replica" for want of a better word, would give us an idea of what it would take for a woman the same age, height , weight and experience of guns, would do.
did you post your reconstruction online at all?
Here are a few example of my work. This all took me several months. And its only a fraction of the event. I have no plans to continue this project anytime soon. I don't have the time ATM.
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Here are a few example of my work. This all took me several months. And its only a fraction of the event. I have no plans to continue this project anytime soon. I don't have the time ATM.
thanks for posting , that is interesting
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Her state of mind would affect her ability to perform the task.
where is the evidence for that?
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Well I don't see how some computer re-enactment could work either.
i think a "real" reconstruction with an SC replacement would work.
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i think a "real" reconstruction with an SC replacement would work.
Unless the conditions were the same, all you'll be doing is acting out someone else's interpretation of what happened.
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Unless the conditions were the same, all you'll be doing is acting out someone else's interpretation of what happened.
im talking about the physical aspect of it not the position of bodies etc just the physical act of doing it there is no interpretation in that
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i think a "real" reconstruction with an SC replacement would work.
Difficult as what led up to the final tableau isn't known. All one could do is recreate that.
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Difficult as what led up to the final tableau isn't known. All one could do is recreate that.
re create the physical act, yes, and I remember now the jury asked to see a demonstration of the gun being loaded and fired, i understand exactly why they would have wanted to see that , maybe that had something to do with them finding JB guilty?
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re create the physical act, yes, and I remember now the jury asked to see a demonstration of the gun being loaded and fired, i understand exactly why they would have wanted to see that , maybe that had something to do with them finding JB guilty?
I think, from the way 'my' gun expert went through the logistics, it would have had enormous bearing on their decision.