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Title: Miscarriage of Justice ?
Post by: JackieD on June 19, 2018, 09:00:PM

Just starting


Conviction: Murder in Suburbia
9pm, BBC Two
In 2003, Glyn Razzell, a former investment manager from Swindon, was convicted of murdering his wife, Linda, from whom he was estranged. Her body has never been found; the conviction was based on bloodstains found in the boot of the car that matched his DNA. He has always protested his innocence. In this two-part documentary, we follow the progress of Louise Shorter from the group Inside Justice as she and a mostly female team of investigators re-examine this extraordinary case. David Stubbs
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Post by: Jon2 on June 19, 2018, 10:01:PM
Excellent programme , be interesting to see how polygraph goes .
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Post by: JackieD on June 19, 2018, 10:49:PM
I know Jon, I have been tweeting them all night and the forensic scientist
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Post by: lookout on June 20, 2018, 08:46:AM
Good programme,we'll see what happens tonight. Louise Shorter is a great " sleuth ".
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Post by: Caroline on June 20, 2018, 12:08:PM
Good programme,we'll see what happens tonight. Louise Shorter is a great " sleuth ".

He's guilty as! Stupid excuse for how his wife's blood ended up in the boot of a car he used for one day!
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Post by: Caroline on June 20, 2018, 12:09:PM
Excellent programme , be interesting to see how polygraph goes .

He refused it.
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Post by: Caroline on June 20, 2018, 12:10:PM
Why no prediction - guilty or innocent?
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Post by: buddy on June 20, 2018, 12:18:PM
Why no prediction - guilty or innocent?
Guilty. I fail to understand why they took the case up.
The handing over the wrong trousers as well as the blood evidence
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Post by: Caroline on June 20, 2018, 12:25:PM
Guilty. I fail to understand why they took the case up.
The handing over the wrong trousers as well as the blood evidence

Totally agree and the fact that his phone managed to 'switch itself off' at such a convenient time, during the two-hour walk when no one saw him.

He should admit it and tell them what he did with her body. He's due for release soon
and he'll have no one.


I can't remember what conclusions they came to last time they did one of these. Anyone remember?
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Post by: buddy on June 20, 2018, 12:29:PM
Totally agree and the fact that his phone managed to 'switch itself off' at such a convenient time, during the two-hour walk when no one saw him.

He should admit it and tell them what he did with her body. He's due for release soon
and he'll have no one.


I can't remember what conclusions they came to last time they did one of these. Anyone remember?
Will he be released if he fails to admit his guilt?
I think the last time they concluded he was guilty.
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Post by: Caroline on June 20, 2018, 12:39:PM
Will he be released if he fails to admit his guilt?
I think the last time they concluded he was guilty.

Yes, he was due for release in a few years time. He wasn't given a whole life tariff.
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Post by: lookout on June 20, 2018, 03:42:PM
This man is a very violent character. Because of this his wife had made accusations of domestic abuse in the past--of which he'd been acquitted once the court heard the full facts.
 
Linda suffered mental health problems for a long time and had been hospitalised in a psychiatric unit.

After an acrimonious divorce Linda had found it difficult in accepting Glyn's new partner and had become very bitter towards this new relationship.


Where does Linda's relationship come into this ? Her partner was her best friend's husband. Do we know if he was questioned or have I missed something ?

I can't commit either way as yet------guilty or innocent.
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Post by: FORTHCLYDE on June 20, 2018, 04:41:PM
He is due out approx. Sept 11th 2019.
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Post by: lookout on June 20, 2018, 04:51:PM
Who said ?
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Post by: FORTHCLYDE on June 20, 2018, 06:15:PM
THE HONOURABLE MR JUSTICE PITCHERS set the release date.
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Post by: lookout on June 20, 2018, 07:01:PM
Oh,I see.
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Post by: JackieD on June 20, 2018, 10:03:PM
He is due out approx. Sept 11th 2019.

Are you involved or are you connected to the media company?
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Post by: lookout on June 20, 2018, 10:04:PM
Well that was that. I feel as though the case is still in the air ?
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Post by: David1819 on June 21, 2018, 11:55:AM
Excellent programme , be interesting to see how polygraph goes .

I found it rather boring TBH.  :-\

Here is one of my all time favorite docs of this type

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq46nD-Hyek (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq46nD-Hyek)

The guy is so guilty its almost comical.
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Post by: lookout on June 21, 2018, 12:01:PM
I still think that the collecting of evidence here is very scrappy. 
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Post by: Caroline on June 21, 2018, 12:12:PM
I still think that the collecting of evidence here is very scrappy.

Why? Because they didn't look into tittle-tattle? His wife's blood was in the boot of a car he'd borrowed. His excuse for how it got there was that his wife must have put it there days after she went missing. This is the worst excuse I think I have ever heard! He also seemed keen to blame it on Halliwell but the idea is a non-starter because you would still have to explain the blood in the boot!
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Post by: lookout on June 21, 2018, 12:53:PM
Why? Because they didn't look into tittle-tattle? His wife's blood was in the boot of a car he'd borrowed. His excuse for how it got there was that his wife must have put it there days after she went missing. This is the worst excuse I think I have ever heard! He also seemed keen to blame it on Halliwell but the idea is a non-starter because you would still have to explain the blood in the boot!

 



Who was the owner of the borrowed car ?  Had he known Linda ?

What happened about the cell-phone which was found ? Was it tested ?


No results for the " hoovered-up " material as the scientists spluttered their way through an excuse.

Glyn hadn't initially blamed Halliwell,it was words which were put into his mouth by the cop----auutosuggestion. Glyn hadn't given a thought to Halliwell until it had been mentioned.
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Post by: buddy on June 21, 2018, 03:01:PM
I think that as the justice team were looking to clear this man but all agreed that he is probably guilty
speaks volumes. His reasons for not taking the lie detector were very weak.
If the truth be known he was just after compensation for a miscarriage of justice.
He should man up and disclose the whereabouts of her body.
Such a shame that the team wasted there time on this person.
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Post by: Caroline on June 21, 2018, 06:05:PM
Who was the owner of the borrowed car ?  Had he known Linda ?

What happened about the cell-phone which was found ? Was it tested ?


No results for the " hoovered-up " material as the scientists spluttered their way through an excuse.

Glyn hadn't initially blamed Halliwell,it was words which were put into his mouth by the cop----auutosuggestion. Glyn hadn't given a thought to Halliwell until it had been mentioned.

She went missing when Glyn had the car - not the owner and tests showed that the blood could not have been 'planted'.

Who said they don't have results for the materials? They said they couldn't hand it over, not that they didn't have results.

Tested the phone for what?

No, he didn't give Halliwell a thought but jumped on it when it was mentioned.

The guy is guilty as sin but doesn't have the guts to admit to it.
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Post by: lookout on June 21, 2018, 06:57:PM
She went missing when Glyn had the car - not the owner and tests showed that the blood could not have been 'planted'.

Who said they don't have results for the materials? They said they couldn't hand it over, not that they didn't have results.

Tested the phone for what?

No, he didn't give Halliwell a thought but jumped on it when it was mentioned.

The guy is guilty as sin but doesn't have the guts to admit to it.





I don't know whether the chaps guilty or not. I can't say one way or the other,but looking at the polygraph refusal does give full marks to JB who'd also demanded it to be done and went through with it which is in his favour against this chap.I suppose you'll say they don't work which is what Glyn said ?


Why do you think the hooverings were dismissed ?

The phone could have been tested for prints as well as content ?


He didn't exactly " jump " at the thought of Halliwell,though either way would/could have made him suspect.


One thing that goes against the grain is that he's a shifty looking character,but then JB was given all kinds of visual descriptions. Looks aren't everything except in exceptional cases ??
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Post by: lookout on June 21, 2018, 07:06:PM
Bob Woffinden seems to believe that Linda is still alive. Until he changes his mind that is  ::)
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Post by: lookout on June 21, 2018, 07:17:PM
I was led to believe that Linda hadn't drawn any money from the bank ? Yet money had been drawn from 3 banks/building societies the day before she went missing.
If money had remained in the bank then it's right to be suspicious.

The car in question had been examined over 4 days without having found blood/hairs or fibres ?
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Post by: lookout on June 21, 2018, 07:34:PM
There was also no mention at trial of " collecting travel tickets " written on the calendar so we don't know if that was ever pursued.
The prosecution took it that because Linda was missing it was murder. The jury followed suit.


 
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Post by: Caroline on June 21, 2018, 09:32:PM
Bob Woffinden seems to believe that Linda is still alive. Until he changes his mind that is  ::)

I don't think he'll be changing his mind, he died Lookout.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2018/may/11/bob-woffinden-obituary
Title: Re: Miscarriage of Justice ?
Post by: lookout on June 21, 2018, 09:49:PM
I don't think he'll be changing his mind, he died Lookout.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2018/may/11/bob-woffinden-obituary






Oh heck.  Must have been in contact with asbestos.

 ( watching Rhys Jones investigation )
Title: Re: Miscarriage of Justice ?
Post by: FORTHCLYDE on February 23, 2019, 04:19:PM
Police searching ½ mile from Linda Razzell's house for her body.
If she is found surely it would point to her boyfriend Greg Worrall that's the only way her car could have been parked near her work. Remember no one  saw her there just that the car and her mobile were found.
I thought Glyn Razzell was innocent but after watching Miscarriage of Justice I was not sure.
But this search brings everything into play.
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Post by: nugnug on February 24, 2019, 10:59:PM
Police searching ½ mile from Linda Razzell's house for her body.
If she is found surely it would point to her boyfriend Greg Worrall that's the only way her car could have been parked near her work. Remember no one  saw her there just that the car and her mobile were found.
I thought Glyn Razzell was innocent but after watching Miscarriage of Justice I was not sure.
But this search brings everything into play.

they say they wre acting n a tip off rom a member of the public so how would this mmbrof the public know where the body exactly.

unless it was them that burried it.