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Title: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on October 31, 2018, 06:38:PM
The ballistic Expert, Malcolm Fletcher, has a lot of explaining yet to do, because according to him he did not test fire any control ammunition in the anshuzt rifle until the 20th September 1985, followed by further test firings of the same which occurred on the 25th September, and the 1st and 2nd October 1985...

Once these test firings had been completed, markings found on the spent bullet cases of the test fired control rounds, were compared against similar markings found on the batch of crime scene ammunition in the form of those spent bullet cases, to try and confirm whether or not, this part of the crime scene ammunition, had been loaded, fired and ejected and extracted from the anshuzt rifle during the shooting tragedy? Based upon the testimony and witness statements of the ballistic expert, no such comparison checks could possibly have been attempted any sooner than 20th September 1985 (the first occasion which Fletcher claimed he had test fired the anshuzt rifle, adding that at the time he first fired the rifle with the control ammunition (DRH/22) he did not know when if at all the rifle in question had last been fired!

Malcolm Fletcher lied!

Here are the general examination records, of numerous crime scene spent bullet cases which had comparison checks made against test fired control rounds on dates prior to 20th September 1985 - this leads to the inevitable conclusion that for one reason or another, there had been a much earlier test firing of the anshuzt rifle with at least two control rounds, and that these test firings must have occurred either before, or on the 12th September 1985, since the very first comparisons occurred on dates, 12th, 13th, 18th and 19th September 1985. Moreover, the ballistic expert, Fletcher, knew this to have been true because his signature appears on the damning general examination records, which are dated as such...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on October 31, 2018, 06:54:PM
Spent bullet cases, DRH/4, DRH/19, DRH/20, DRH/37, DRH/40, DRH/41and DRH/43, all have something in common, not only because comparison tests were conducted before the official test firing of control ammunition in the rifle (18), but also by the same sub heading contained on the general examination records 'SIMILAR IN DESCRIPTIONTO ITEM 24' which itself was a spent cartridge case bearing the exhibit reference DRH/1...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on October 31, 2018, 07:12:PM
Spent bullet cases, DRH/4, DRH/19, DRH/20, DRH/37, DRH/40, DRH/41and DRH/43, all have something in common, not only because comparison tests were conducted before the official test firing of control ammunition in the rifle (18), but also by the same sub heading contained on the general examination records 'SIMILAR IN DESCRIPTIONTO ITEM 24' which itself was a spent cartridge case bearing the exhibit reference DRH/1...

In total, there were some 19 spent bullet cases with the same, or a similar reference written upon the corresponding general examination records, as opposed to six others which had no references to those being similar in description to item 24...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on October 31, 2018, 07:13:PM
In total, there were some 19 spent bullet cases with the same, or a similar reference written upon the corresponding general examination records, as opposed to six others which had no references to those being similar in description to item 24...

I identify the 7 spent bullet cases and their corresponding general examination records for reference, below:-

Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 09:07:AM
I am not happy with the fact that no less than 7 spent cartridge cases were checked against control rounds on various dates between 12th and 19th September 1985, when the test firing of rifle (18) using the control ammunition did not take place until on and after 20th September 1985!

It stinks of a deception - why does evidence in the form of individual general examination records pertaining to at least 7 Spent crime scene bullets, state that comparison tests were completed against test fired ammunition during a period when there had not been any official test firing of control rounds via the rifle (18)?
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 09:22:AM
I am not happy with the fact that no less than 7 spent cartridge cases were checked against control rounds on various dates between 12th and 19th September 1985, when the test firing of rifle (18) using the control ammunition did not take place until on and after 20th September 1985!

It stinks of a deception - why does evidence in the form of individual general examination records pertaining to at least 7 Spent crime scene bullets, state that comparison tests were completed against test fired ammunition during a period when there had not been any official test firing of control rounds via the rifle (18)?

What we can adduce is that there must have been an earlier test fire of control ammunition from exhibit DRH/22, which for one reason or another, the cops and their Lab' experts didn't intend for anyone to find out about?

The presentation of this lie, backed up by the ballistic expert Fletcher claiming that he had not test fired the rifle (18) with the 29 control rounds (DRH/22) until on and after 20 the September 1985. Fletcher telling the COLP investigators that although there should have been 29 rounds subject of DRH/22, he only had records of test firing 27 on and after the 20th September 1985, and that the other two control rounds must have been misplaced, or simply lost. In his working notes from the Lab' he stated that prior to him firing the rifle (18) with the control ammunition from DRH/22, on the 20th September 1985, and onward, that he did not know when the rifle (18) had last been used or fired!

But, he must have done because he signed the general examination records on at least 7 occasions, when comparison checks had been made between spent bullet cases, and test fired bullet cases on all occasions (12th, 13th, 18th and 19th September 1985) before the 20th September 1985 - the only way such checks could have been made was if the rifle (18) had already been test fired with at least one or two of the control rounds from DRH/22..

It can't simply be a coincidence that two of the 29 control rounds from exhibit DRH/22 are missing and seemingly unaccounted for by Malcolm Fletcher to COLP - Fletcher has lied, and the lies he has told helped to force the jury to convict Jeremy Bamber of shooting dead his sister on the main bedroom floor, and staging her death scene as a purported suicide in an attempt to conceal his involvement!

The two missing rounds from exhibit DRH/22 were test fired via the anshuzt rifle either on or before 12th September 1985, which enabled the comparison checks to be carried out between spent crime scene bullet cases and test fired rounds on all occasions prior to 20th September 1985..

It must be the case, that Fletcher knew that if he admitted the earlier unofficial test fire of control rounds via the rifle (18) that he would have to account for the whereabouts of the missing two control rounds from DRH/22, which would inevitably lead on to the fact that the bullets, and the spent bullet cases of the two pieces of missing control ammunition, had been used in a substitution procedure, involving the swapping over of the original piece of a badly fragmented which was exhibit PV/20, resulting in a test fired control bullet which had been fired in rifle18, becoming part and parcel of the batch of crime scene ammunition, enabling Fletcher to conclude later on, that bullet PV/20 had been fired in rifle 18...

It would also be necessary, to use the spent control bullet case to add to the batch of crime scene ammunition, if the original bullet had been fired by way of a different gun (not the anshuzt rifle)..



Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 09:46:AM

It would also be necessary, to use the spent control bullet case to add to the batch of crime scene ammunition, if the original bullet had been fired by way of a different gun (not the anshuzt rifle)..

This would explain how the bullet and the spent cartridge case from one of the unaccounted for two control rounds from DRH/22 were disposed of - leaving one other control round to be accounted for?
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 09:50:AM
This would explain how the bullet and the spent cartridge case from one of the unaccounted for two control rounds from DRH/22 were disposed of - leaving one other control round to be accounted for?

After a long hard think, I have come to the conclusion that the bullet part of the one remaining piece of control ammunition from DRH/22 became exhibit DRH/36 (remember that the pathologist did not recover one of the three bullets  which had been fired into Nicholas Caffells skull) supposedly the children's bedroom - thus leaving me to ponder regarding what could have happenned, if anything to the last piece of control ammunition in the form of it's spent bullet case?
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 09:58:AM
After a long hard think, I have come to the conclusion that the bullet part of the one remaining piece of control ammunition from DRH/22 became exhibit DRH/36 (remember that the pathologist did not recover one of the three bullets  which had been fired into Nicholas Caffells skull) supposedly the children's bedroom - thus leaving me to ponder regarding what could have happened, if anything to the last piece of control ammunition in the form of it's spent bullet case?

First things first, we need to track down the expert, or assistant, (D TAYLOR) who examined the batches of all the crime scene ammunition. Since, there appears to have been a deliberate attempt to conceal his involvement in these proceedings! There has to be a reason why cops, and the experts at the Lab' did not want anyone to find out about the role he played in the 'tampering' process of the batches of crime scene ammunition, and to interference with the batch of control ammunition (DRH/22)...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 10:00:AM
I am onto 'it'...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 10:07:AM
I am onto 'it'...

Let's start at the beginning (ground zero)...

There were 29 control rounds which formed part and parcel of exhibit DRH/22. Each round should have been given its own unique Lab' item number, so let's for arguments sake lay everything out here threadbare, and say the following exhibit reference system should have been adopted:-

The batch of control ammunition consisting 29 separate rounds, here goes...

(1) - DRH/22 (1)
(2) - DRH/22 (2)
(3) - DRH/22 (3)
(4) - DRH/22 (4)
(5) - DRH/22 (5)
(6) - DRH/22 (6)
(7) - DRH/22 (7)
(8) - DRH/22 (8)
(9) - DRH/22 (9)
(10) - DRH/22 (10)
(11) - DRH/22 (11)
(12) - DRH/22 (12)
(13) - DRH/22 (13)
(14) - DRH/22 (14)
(15) - DRH/22 (15)
(16) - DRH/22 (16)
(17) - DRH/22 (17)
(18) - DRH/22 (18)
(19) - DRH/22 (19)
(20) - DRH/22 (20)
(21) - DRH/22 (21)
(22) - DRH/22 (22)
(23) - DRH/22 (23)
(24) - DRH/22 (24)
(25) - DRH/22 (25)
(26) - DRH/22 (26)
(27) - DRH/22 (27)
(28) - DRH/22 (28)
(29) - DRH/22 (29)
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 11:27:AM
Let's start at the beginning (ground zero)...

There were 29 control rounds which formed part and parcel of exhibit DRH/22. Each round should have been given its own unique Lab' item number, so let's for arguments sake lay everything out here threadbare, and say the following exhibit reference system should have been adopted:-

The batch of control ammunition consisting 29 separate rounds, here goes...

(1) - DRH/22 (1)
(2) - DRH/22 (2)
(3) - DRH/22 (3)
(4) - DRH/22 (4)
(5) - DRH/22 (5)
(6) - DRH/22 (6)
(7) - DRH/22 (7)
(8) - DRH/22 (8)
(9) - DRH/22 (9)
(10) - DRH/22 (10) 
(11) - DRH/22 (11)
(12) - DRH/22 (12)
(13) - DRH/22 (13)
(14) - DRH/22 (14)
(15) - DRH/22 (15)
(16) - DRH/22 (16)
(17) - DRH/22 (17)
(18) - DRH/22 (18)
(19) - DRH/22 (19)
(20) - DRH/22 (20)
(21) - DRH/22 (21)
(22) - DRH/22 (22)
(23) - DRH/22 (23)
(24) - DRH/22 (24)
(25) - DRH/22 (25)
(26) - DRH/22 (26)
(27) - DRH/22 (27)
(28) - DRH/22 (28)
(29) - DRH/22 (29)


In turn, once test fired in rifle (18), each of the above exhibits would have compromised of two separate parts of each piece of a control round, namely (a) the spent cartridge case, and secondly (b) the bullet, or as you wish, (b) the projectile...

This then would have created the following exhibit references available to each component part (a) or (b), of the DRH/22 basic exhibits (1) - (29), as follows:-

(1) - DRH/22 (1) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(2) - DRH/22 (2) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(3) - DRH/22 (3) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(4) - DRH/22 (4) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(5) - DRH/22 (5) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(6) - DRH/22 (6) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(7) - DRH/22 (7) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(8) - DRH/22 (8) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(9) - DRH/22 (9) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(10) - DRH/22 (10)  spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(11) - DRH/22 (11) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(12) - DRH/22 (12) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(13) - DRH/22 (13) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(14) - DRH/22 (14) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(15) - DRH/22 (15) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(16) - DRH/22 (16) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(17) - DRH/22 (17) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(18) - DRH/22 (18) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(19) - DRH/22 (19) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(20) - DRH/22 (20) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(21) - DRH/22 (21) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(22) - DRH/22 (22) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(23) - DRH/22 (23) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(24) - DRH/22 (24) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(25) - DRH/22 (25) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(26) - DRH/22 (26) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(27) - DRH/22 (27) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(28) - DRH/22 (28)  spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

(29) - DRH/22 (29) spent cartridge after test fire (a), bullet/projectile (b)

Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 01:22:PM
If there had been a proper handling of the 29 rounds which were exhibit DRH/22, we would have been able to identify which test fired control rounds had been test fired in the anshuzt rifle, and used to make the comparison tests against crime scene cartridge cases checked on 12th, 13th, 18th and 19th September 1985...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 01:24:PM
If there had been a proper handling of the 29 rounds which were exhibit DRH/22, we would have been able to identify which test fired control rounds had been test fired in the anshuzt rifle, and used to make the comparison tests against crime scene cartridge cases checked on 12th, 13th, 18th and 19th September 1985...

Fletchers handling of the ballistics side of things was amateurish to say the least, or despicably dishonest!
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 04:32:PM
According to the pathologist, one of the two bullet entry wounds to Sheila Caffell's neck (the lower wound) was 1/4 diameter, whilst the other bullet wound (above) measured only 3/16 in diameter..
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 04:36:PM
According to the pathologist, one of the two bullet entry wounds to Sheila Caffell's neck (the lower wound) was 1/4 diameter, whilst the other bullet wound (above) measured only 3/16 in diameter..

Bullet PV/20 caused the lower bullet entry wound (1/4), and bullet PV/19 the upper wound (3/16)
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 04:39:PM
The five victims had a variety of differently sized bullet wound diameters, ranging from 3/16, 1/4, and 1/2 inches...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 04:52:PM
The five victims had a variety of differently sized bullet wound diameters, ranging from 3/16, 1/4, and 1/2 inches...
None of the 25 spent cartridge cases found at the scene were scientifically matched to individual bullets, despite the existence of a manufacturer's crimping marks, primer propellant and gun power compounds, lubricants being unique to a particular manufacturer...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 04:56:PM
There was a marked absence of any follower plate marking found on any of the 25 spent bullet cases found at the scene, suggesting that some of the spent cartridge cases from the shootings may have been removed, only to be replaced by test fired control spent cartridge cases, so that the shootings could be put down as a one gun crime...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 05:01:PM
There was a marked absence of any follower plate marking found on any of the 25 spent bullet cases found at the scene, suggesting that some of the spent cartridge cases from the shootings may have been removed, only to be replaced by test fired control spent cartridge cases, so that the shootings could be put down as a one gun crime...

As a matter of interest, the source for the replacement spent cartridge cases that could have been, or which were used in a mass substitution procedure could have come from the control ammunition subject of DRH/22...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 05:14:PM
What is also now known, and which might prove to be relevant to this matter, was that Essex police stated that they had destroyed all of the crime scene ammunition, but by some miracle PC Bernard came forward claiming that it had not been destroyed and that he had retained 'it' which ended up with the COLP investigators - this all seemed to me at the time to be highly suspicious, and it crossed my mind, that some of the genuine pieces of crime scene ammunition which had been used in a widescale substitution process may have been destroyed, and the batch which PC Bernard presented was the revised batch of crime scene ammunition, what was left over after test fired components of control ammunition had been test fired (post date of the shooting tragedy) in the anshuzt rifle as part of the plan to present these shootings as a one gun crime...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 05:16:PM
What is also now known, and which might prove to be relevant to this matter, was that Essex police stated that they had destroyed all of the crime scene ammunition, but by some miracle PC Bernard came forward claiming that it had not been destroyed and that he had retained 'it' which ended up with the COLP investigators - this all seemed to me at the time to be highly suspicious, and it crossed my mind, that some of the genuine pieces of crime scene ammunition which had been used in a widescale substitution process may have been destroyed, and the batch which PC Bernard presented was the revised batch of crime scene ammunition, what was left over after test fired components of control ammunition had been test fired (post date of the shooting tragedy) in the anshuzt rifle as part of the plan to present these shootings as a one gun crime...

For this reason, I do not think it can be discounted that the Pargeter rifle (.22 bolt action rifle) wasn't used in the shootings!
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 05:24:PM
For this reason, I do not think it can be discounted that the Pargeter rifle (.22 bolt action rifle) wasn't used in the shootings!
I can say this with some conviction because COLP supposedly cleared up this matter in 1991 / 1992, when Pargeters .22 bolt action rifle, and his silencer were test fired, and the component parts of the test fired round (a) spent cartridge, and (b) bullet / projectile were compared against so called crime scene ammunition  and eliminated...

This is all well and good, had there been no suspicion that crime scene bullets and crime scene spent cartridge cases hadn't been tampered with, but as a result of what is now known, the Pargeter ammunition which got test fired in his rifle as part of the COLP investigation may well have been compared against dodgy corresponding pieces of crime scene ammunition, and not the original ammunition' which in the mean time had been subject of swapping over, and more recently which had been destroyed!
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 05:28:PM
This problem may have arose because of the ballistic experts failure to itemise the contents of DRH/22, into individual units which could have been uniquely identifiable making it more difficult for an unscrupulous person, or persons, to use some of the test fired control ammunition in a substitution procedure, to turn the shootings into a one gun crime...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 05:34:PM
This problem may have arose because of the ballistic experts failure to itemise the contents of DRH/22, into individual units which could have been uniquely identifiable making it more difficult for an unscrupulous person, or persons, to use some of the test fired control ammunition in a substitution procedure, to turn the shootings into a one gun crime...

Jeremy has always been adamant that Anthony Pargeters .22 bolt action rifle was present at white house farm on the evening / morning of the shootings! He included mention of 'it' in the diagram of the farmhouse, its occupants and firearms, a diagram that he handed to the police at the scene. He also told me on numerous occasions that his father who was Chairman of the Witham bench (Magistrate) would never have allowed Anthony Pargeter to remove his weapons which included his .22 bolt action rifle, and ammunitions away from the farmhouse because he would have been breaking the law!
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 05:34:PM
Jeremy has always been adamant that Anthony Pargeters .22 bolt action rifle was present at white house farm on the evening / morning of the shootings! He included mention of 'it' in the diagram of the farmhouse, its occupants and firearms, a diagram that he handed to the police at the scene. He also told me on numerous occasions that his father who was Chairman of the Witham bench (Magistrate) would never have allowed Anthony Pargeter to remove his weapons which included his .22 bolt action rifle, and ammunitions away from the farmhouse because he would have been breaking the law!

I believe Jeremy's account..
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 05:46:PM
This is one of the reasons why I think there were possibly three different weapons used, maybe as many as four in total, in these shootings!

Having said that / this...

I think that one of these weapons, that although the gun did get discharged, it damaged a ceiling light situated in the ceiling of the kitchen. It wasn't until after the 8th August 1985, that SOCO discovered that a shotgun had been discharged recently inside the kitchen. Cops used a metal detector and found all the pellets which had been discharged from a spent Raker Cartridge case found in the breech of a 12 bore shotgun in the downstairs office. When this shotgun was eventually fingerprinted the fingerprints of Sheila Caffell and Neville Bamber were found upon strategic parts of the shotguns barrel suggestive that there may have been a struggle involving both of them over control or the possession of the shotgun (either after a shot had been discharged from it, or just beforehand). In point of fact, the guns barrell which DS Davidson spoke to COLP about in his 1992 police interviews, where he talks about Cook handing him a paint sample (RC/1) at the scene on the 8th August 1985, was because some paint had been found on the end of a guns barrel, a gun which had been found downstairs at the farmhouse on that same date ( the 12 bore shotgun)!
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 01, 2018, 06:54:PM
I believe DS Davidson's explanation to his COLP interviewers (1992) was an accurate account of the shotgun being the gun which had red paint from the kitchen aga, and that this gives a clear insight into how corrupt Essex police have been in this prosecution of Jeremy Bamber - any scratch marks on the kitchen aga at that stage were almost certainly caused by the end of the 12 bore shotgun with Sheila's and Neville's fingerprints upon it, coming into contact with 'it' I know how this can be proven or disproven, coming up next...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 02, 2018, 06:42:AM
I believe DS Davidson's explanation to his COLP interviewers (1992) was an accurate account of the shotgun being the gun which had red paint from the kitchen aga, and that this gives a clear insight into how corrupt Essex police have been in this prosecution of Jeremy Bamber - any scratch marks on the kitchen aga at that stage were almost certainly caused by the end of the 12 bore shotgun with Sheila's and Neville's fingerprints upon it, coming into contact with 'it' I know how this can be proven or disproven, coming up next...

A local resident (Smith) heard a shotgun blast at around 10pm on the evening 6th August 1985, come from the vicinity of white house farm - clue..
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 02, 2018, 07:28:AM
A local resident (Smith) heard a shotgun blast at around 10pm on the evening 6th August 1985, come from the vicinity of white house farm - clue..

Cops were clearly interested in the 12 bore shotgun and the empty 12 bore cartridge case nestling it's chamber..

DI Cook removed the 12 bore shotgun from the gun cupboard in the downstairs office on the first morning of the shooting tragedy and stood it against the wall in the downstairs office, it had a marigold glove stretched over the end of its wooden stock! At that time, Cook did not realise the significance of this shotgun, it was not until the following day (by which time) that it was noticed or noted that ingrained onto the end of the shotguns barrell was red paint from the scratched kitchen mantlepiece...

Here is the shotgun alluded to, captured resting against the downstairs office wall  (the den) by PC Bird on the first morning of the police investigation...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 02, 2018, 07:42:AM
This shotgun was removed from the gun cupboard in the downstairs office, some 4 days prior to the supposed recovery of the silencer by David Boutflour on 10th August 1985...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 02, 2018, 07:46:AM
This shotgun was removed from the gun cupboard in the downstairs office, some 4 days prior to the supposed recovery of the silencer by David Boutflour on 10th August 1985...

Remember, that according to the fingerprint examination of the silencer, that nobodies fingerprints were found to be present upon 'it'...

Whereas, the fingerprints of Neville Bamber and the fingerprints of Sheila Caffell were found to be present upon the barrell of the 12 bore shotgun recovered some 4 days earlier than the date the silencer was seized by Boutflour at the scene, from the very same gun cupboard!
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 02, 2018, 07:48:AM
Remember, that according to the fingerprint examination of the silencer, that nobodies fingerprints were found to be present upon 'it'...

Whereas, the fingerprints of Neville Bamber and the fingerprints of Sheila Caffell were found to be present upon the barrell of the 12 bore shotgun recovered some 4 days earlier than the date the silencer was seized by Boutflour at the scene, from the very same gun cupboard!

Remember the damaged kitchen ceiling lightshade, and the fact that on 8th August 1985, that SOCO used a metal detector to locate the shot from the spent RAKER cartridge case in the kitchen of the farmhouse!!!...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 02, 2018, 07:53:AM
Stop..
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 02, 2018, 07:54:AM
Stop..

Why do Neville Bambers and Sheila Caffell's fingerprints appear upon the barrel of the 12 bore shotgun?
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 02, 2018, 07:56:AM
The 12 bore shotgun was recovered (7 August 1985) from the very same gun cupboard some 4 days before (10 August 1985) David Boutflour found one of the silencers which supposedly contained the unique blood of Sheila Caffell..
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 02, 2018, 08:06:AM
The 12 bore shotgun was recovered (7 August 1985) from the very same gun cupboard some 4 days before (10 August 1985) David Boutflour found one of the silencers which supposedly contained the unique blood of Sheila Caffell..

I am convinced that any scratch mark found on the kitchen aga surround (7th to 9th August 1985) were made by the end of the 12 bore shotgun coming into contact with 'it' during a struggle between two people..

The two people involved in this / any struggle were almost certainly Neville Bamber and Sheila Caffell'..
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 02, 2018, 08:08:AM
I am convinced that any scratch mark found on the kitchen aga surround (7th to 9th August 1985) were made by the end of the 12 bore shotgun coming into contact with 'it' during a struggle between two people..

The two people involved in this / any struggle were almost certainly Neville Bamber and Sheila Caffell'..

This conclusion is based on the existence of Neville Bambers and Sheila Caffell's fingerprints found to be present on the barrel of the shotgun found in the same gun cupboard as the silencer (allegedly found in the same gun cupboard as the silencer found by David Boutflour 4 days afterwards)..
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 02, 2018, 08:17:AM
This conclusion is based on the existence of Neville Bambers and Sheila Caffell's fingerprints found to be present on the barrel of the shotgun found in the same gun cupboard as the silencer (allegedly found in the same gun cupboard as the silencer found by David Boutflour 4 days afterwards)..

This leads me to question, the suggestion that because Sheila Caffell's unique blood was found inside the silencer, and that she could not have shot herself dead (and afterwards hid the silencer in the downstairs office cupboard), and her fingerprints be present on the barrel of the 12 bore shotgun found in the same gun cupboard?

Not only that, but the fingerprints of Neville Bamber and herself found to be present on the barrel of that 12 bore shotgun in that same gun cupboard, and the damage to the kitchen ceiling lampshades, and the recovery of shot from the discharge of the 12 bore shotgun by use of a metal detector in the kitchen at the scene on 8 August 1985...?

Both scenarios are contradictive to one another...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 02, 2018, 08:24:AM
Essex police knew that the kitchen lampshade had been damaged by the 12 bore shotguns blast - what I am telling you all, is that the presence of Neville Bambers and Sheila Caffell's fingerprints that were found to be present on the barrel of the shotgun is sounding an alarm!

Hence, why Essex police are still refusing to disclose a copy of the original handwritten SOCO report covering 7th and 8th August 1985...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 02, 2018, 05:13:PM
The 12 bore shotgun was found in the same gun cupboard on 7 August 1985, where David Boutflour found the silencer on 10 August 1985 - Sheila's fingerprints on the shotguns barrel and red paint from the kitchen mantelpiece ingrained onto its barrel...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 02, 2018, 07:13:PM
The 12 bore shotgun was found in the same gun cupboard on 7 August 1985, where David Boutflour found the silencer on 10 August 1985 - Sheila's fingerprints on the shotguns barrel and red paint from the kitchen mantelpiece ingrained onto its barrel...

Do these circular type scratch marks correspond with the diameter of one of the shot gun barrels coming into contact with the kitchen mantelpiece?

I believe that the curved marks in the two elongated scratch marks in the photograph below were made by the barrel of the shotgun coming into contact there during a struggle between Sheila and Neville over control and possession of the shotgun, and that these two curved scratch marks were not made by a silencer..

It would be interesting to find out whether or not the guns barrel to which DS Davidson alludes to in his COLP interview that had paint on, was the shotgun and whether or not paint was on both barrells, or just one them?
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 02, 2018, 08:20:PM
It seems somewhat obvious to me, that Essex police concealed the shotgun evidence and in particular the fact that paint from the scratched kitchen mantelpiece was ingrained onto it barrel as alluded to by DS Davidson, and that once the nature of the investigation changed course, the cops and relatives introduced the silencer evidence claiming that it had been the silencer which had scratched the mantelpiece when it had not - the shotgun barrel did and had...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 02, 2018, 08:25:PM
It seems somewhat obvious to me, that Essex police concealed the shotgun evidence and in particular the fact that paint from the scratched kitchen mantelpiece was ingrained onto it barrel as alluded to by DS Davidson, and that once the nature of the investigation changed course, the cops and relatives introduced the silencer evidence claiming that it had been the silencer which had scratched the mantelpiece when it had not - the shotgun barrel did and had...

I believe DS Davidson regarding the fact that DI Cook handed him a paint sample at the scene on 8th August 1985, and that the reason for the paint sample (RC/1) being taken on that occasion, was because paint had been found on the end of a guns barrel (shotgun), a gun that had been found downstairs!
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 02, 2018, 08:31:PM
Use of the shotgun in this shooting tragedy, has other possible implications...

Since, it could have been the shotgun blast in the kitchen which Neville Bamber was referring to when he contacted Jeremy prior to 3.26am, claiming that Sheila had got the gun and had gone crazy?
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 03, 2018, 08:52:AM
Use of the shotgun in this shooting tragedy, has other possible implications...

Since, it could have been the shotgun blast in the kitchen which Neville Bamber was referring to when he contacted Jeremy prior to 3.26am, claiming that Sheila had got the gun and had gone crazy?

With Sheila's and Neville's fingerprints found on the shotgun, this proposition should not be easily dismissed...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 03, 2018, 01:02:PM
It remains possible that the shotgun blast heard by the local resident Smith on the evening before police were contacted was the discharge of the shotgun in the kitchen inside white house farm, and that the kitchen light shade got broken, and the mantelpiece got scratched and that Neville Bamber managed to get the shotgun off Sheila and had put it away in the downstairs office gun cupboard! This might not have been the sole reason why Neville called Jeremy just before 3.26am on the following morning - Sheila might have taken control of the anshuzt rifle in the interim period...

If the shotgun incident occurred on the previous evening and Neville had put the shotgun away in the aforementioned cupboard, I would have expected him to have seen the rifle left by Jeremy on the settle (referred to by family members as the table) and put that weapon away in the same gun cupboard..

Therefore..

In all probability if Sheila did manage to get hold of 'the' gun during the early hours of the morning in compliance with what Neville spoke to Jeremy about, and to the police about (at 3.26am), she would have needed to go to the gun cupboard to retrieve the (shotgun?) anshuzt rifle, and or go to the downstairs bathroom to take possession of the Pargeter .22 bolt action rifle...

I am interested in the use of the term used by Neville Bamber in his call to Jeremy 'Sheila has got the gun' , and the term which Neville used during his 3.26am call to the police 'my daughter has got hold of one of my guns'. Since, when speaking to the police, Neville could only be referring to his shotgun, whereas when Neville had spoken to Jeremy, he could have been referring to the shotgun, or the .22 rifle belonging to Jeremy, or Anthony Pargeter!

Since Neville spoke about his daughter having possession of one of his guns, it suggests that the gun she had possession of when he called police was the shotgun...

Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 03, 2018, 01:09:PM
From conversations I had with Jeremy - Neville did not always retire to his bed in the main bedroom every night. Particularly if he had been working late, because he didn't like disturbing June in her sleep by him coming to bed late. On such occasions, Neville would frequently sit at his desk in the upstairs office, or sit downstairs in the living room, drinking whiskey and falling to sleep there..
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 03, 2018, 01:12:PM
From conversations I had with Jeremy - Neville did not always retire to his bed in the main bedroom every night. Particularly if he had been working late, because he didn't like disturbing June in her sleep by him coming to bed late. On such occasions, Neville would frequently sit at his desk in the upstairs office, or sit downstairs in the living room, drinking whiskey and falling to sleep there..

This is interesting since no-one knows what time Neville Bamber returned to the farmhouse after going to the fields to collect the last trailor load of rape seed (late Tuesday evening) which was being harvested...

For all anyone knows the other three victims (June, Nicholas and Daniel) could have already been killed off by the time Neville got back to the farmhouse. Maybe, it was just before 3.26am that / when he decided to do a check on his wife and grand children, and that that was when he discovered what Sheila had done..
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 03, 2018, 01:47:PM
This is interesting since no-one knows what time Neville Bamber returned to the farmhouse after going to the fields to collect the last trailor load of rape seed (late Tuesday evening) which was being harvested...

For all anyone knows the other three victims (June, Nicholas and Daniel) could have already been killed off by the time Neville got back to the farmhouse. Maybe, it was just before 3.26am that / when he decided to do a check on his wife and grand children, and that that was when he discovered what Sheila had done..

It could have been then, that he made the quick call to Jeremy, and then his 3.26am call to the police...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 03, 2018, 01:51:PM
With Neville absent from the farmhouse, it would have been a relatively simple task to shoot dead her two children, and her adoptive mother, albeit June didn't die easily or quickly..
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 03, 2018, 01:54:PM
With Neville absent from the farmhouse, it would have been a relatively simple task to shoot dead her two children, and her adoptive mother, albeit June didn't die easily or quickly..
The three named victims could have already been laying dead for over three hours before Neville Bamber eventually went upstairs to check on his wife and grand children, and only then be made aware of what Sheila had done!
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 03, 2018, 01:57:PM
During his absence from the farmhouse that evening (after 10pm) Sheila had shot and killed the others. She had unplugged the round finger dial phone from the bedroom and taken it downstairs and after unplugging the digital phone from its socket, she had plugged the bedroom phone into the kitchen socket. She had taken the digital telephone upstairs to her bedroom, and waited for Neville to come back to the farmhouse so she could shoot him dead too..
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 03, 2018, 01:59:PM
During his absence from the farmhouse that evening (after 10pm) Sheila had shot and killed the others. She had unplugged the round finger dial phone from the bedroom and taken it downstairs and after unplugging the digital phone from its socket, she had plugged the bedroom phone into the kitchen socket. She had taken the digital telephone upstairs to her bedroom, and waited for Neville to come back to the farmhouse so she could shoot him dead too..

Police later photographed the digital telephone that was normally plugged into the kitchen socket, on top of Sheila's bed that she had not slept in..

This was supposed to be the same digital telephone hidden beneath magazines in a rack in the kitchen!
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 12:42:PM
Police later photographed the digital telephone that was normally plugged into the kitchen socket, on top of Sheila's bed that she had not slept in..

This was supposed to be the same digital telephone hidden beneath magazines in a rack in the kitchen!
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 12:44:PM
So, we now know that it was Sheila who had unplugged the digital telephone which had been plugged in at the kitchen socket at the time of the shooting tragedy! She unplugged 'it' and took it to her bedroom...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 12:48:PM
So, we now know that it was Sheila who had unplugged the digital telephone which had been plugged in at the kitchen socket at the time of the shooting tragedy! She unplugged 'it' and took it to her bedroom...

Since, we now know with certainty that it had been Sheila who must have unplugged the digital telephone from the kitchen socket, and we know that by the time the raid team entered the kitchen they found the round finger dial telephone plugged in at the kitchen socket (with its handset off its cradle) it falls to be considered exactly how and in what circumstances Sheila had managed to undertake such an exercise?
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 12:55:PM
Well, I think this exercise was executed after June Bamber had finished talking to her sister (Pamela) at some time after 10 O'clock on Tuesday evening. I arrive at this conclusion because according to what Pamela Boutflour had to say about what her sister June said to her about Sheila, where June had mentioned that Sheila had been behaving oddly and that she intended to bring Sheila and the twins for tea on the following day so that she (Pamela) might take a look at her, and that at one stage June told Pamela that she (Sheila) had gone upstairs to bed, it seems so obvious to me that the telephone being used at that time  (whf) had been the kitchen home!
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 01:01:PM
Well, I think this exercise was executed after June Bamber had finished talking to her sister (Pamela) at some time after 10 O'clock on Tuesday evening. I arrive at this conclusion because according to what Pamela Boutflour had to say about what her sister June said to her about Sheila, where June had mentioned that Sheila had been behaving oddly and that she intended to bring Sheila and the twins for tea on the following day so that she (Pamela) might take a look at her, and that at one stage June told Pamela that she (Sheila) had gone upstairs to bed, it seems so obvious to me that the telephone being used at that time  (whf) had been the kitchen home!

June would have known at the time this telephone conversation took place between her sister (Pamela) and herself, whether or not the digital phone which was normally plugged in at the kitchen socket was still plugged in there, or not? For example, had the round finger dial telephone from her bedroom had been plugged in when she made that call to her sister, she would almost certainly have noticed this. Perhaps she did or had, and this was part and parcel of what she told her sister about Sheila behaving oddly?
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 01:02:PM
I think that the digital telephone was still plugged in at the kitchen socket by the time of June Bambers call to her sister Pamela...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 01:05:PM
Sheila's odd behaviour and her reluctance to speak about anything at all to Pamela on the telephone that evening, provides a clue as to why the round finger dial telephone which was normally plugged in at the main bedroom socket, eventually ended up being plugged in downstairs at the kitchen socket!
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 01:09:PM
I think that when Sheila disappeared upstairs during June Bambers call to her sister Pamela, that Sheila went into the main bedroom and unplugged the round finger dial telephone from its socket, and that later on she was downstairs when she unplugged the digital telephone from its kitchen socket, and plugged in the round finger dial phone in its place - she then took the digital telephone upstairs to her bedroom..
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 01:10:PM
I think that when Sheila disappeared upstairs during June Bambers call to her sister Pamela, that Sheila went into the main bedroom and unplugged the round finger dial telephone from its socket, and that later on she was downstairs when she unplugged the digital telephone from its kitchen socket, and plugged in the round finger dial phone in its place - she then took the digital telephone upstairs to her bedroom..

If this is / was true, it begs the question as to a possible motive, or a reason as to why Sheila would go to such trouble?
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 01:13:PM
If this is / was true, it begs the question as to a possible motive, or a reason as to why Sheila would go to such trouble?

Removing the round finger dial phone from its bedroom socket I can understand, because with no telephone plugged in at the bedroom socket June would have no avenue of raising the alarm easily if she could not be killed off quickly by Sheila?
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 01:15:PM
But, once Sheila removed the round finger dial phone from the bedroom socket, what did she do with it?
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 01:16:PM
But, once Sheila removed the round finger dial phone from the bedroom socket, what did she do with it?

What we now know, was that Sheila took the digital telephone that was plugged in at the kitchen socket, and took it to her bedroom..
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 01:20:PM
Something happened after Sheila had unplugged the digital telephone from its Kitchen socket and took it to her bedroom, in relation and with regards to the round finger dial telephone she had prior unplugged from its main bedroom socket, because we know that by the time the raid team entered the kitchen of the farmhouse at about 7.35am, that the round finger dial telephone was already plugged in at the kitchen socket by that stage!
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 01:24:PM
This brings me on to he eavesdropping of the operator who at one stage or another, spoke about the phone being off the hook, and that she could hear a dog barking, to the phone then becoming mysteriously engaged, which subsequently resulted in the operator patching that line through to the control room at Chelmsford police station so that police could maintain constant audio monitoring, etc, etc, etc...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 01:27:PM
This brings me on to he eavesdropping of the operator who at one stage or another, spoke about the phone being off the hook, and that she could hear a dog barking, to the phone then becoming mysteriously engaged, which subsequently resulted in the operator patching that line through to the control room at Chelmsford police station so that police could maintain constant audio monitoring, etc, etc, etc...

Linked to this, of course, was the telephone call which Neville Bamber had made to Jeremy, followed by his call to police timed at 3.26am, where he told the police ' My daughter has got hold of one of my guns'...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 01:29:PM
One or other of the two telephones must have been plugged in, at the time of operator checks, of Neville phoning Jeremy, and then at 3.26am of Neville Bamber himself calling police at 3.26am..
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 01:31:PM
One or other of the two telephones must have been plugged in, at the time of operator checks, of Neville phoning Jeremy, and then at 3.26am of Neville Bamber himself calling police at 3.26am..

It seems to me, that the disconnecting of the telephones, the concealment of one, and the re-plugging of the other at the kitchen socket, must have taken place at a very early stage, certainly before Neville Bamber spoke to Jeremy, and then the police at 3.26am...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 03:36:PM
I can't see how Jeremy could have interested with the telephones after June Bamber had spoken to her sister Pamela at around 10pm in the evening, using the kitchen phone, so that 'it' ended up in his sister's room, and the phone from his parents bedroom ended up downstairs plugged in at the kitchen socket!

Jeremy left white house farm at around 9.30pm, that same evening, a good half an hour before June used the kitchen phone to speak to Pamela..
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 03:41:PM
Everything points to Sheila going upstairs to bed, yet unplugging the round finger dial phone in her parents bedroom (with both her parents absent for one reason or another), so that with Neville Bamber out of the farmhouse, June wouldn't have any means of communication by telephone to anyone or the outside world once she retired to bed. What also seems somewhat obvious was that at some point after June finished speaking with her sister, and June had retired upstairs to her bedroom, that Sheila snook back downstairs and unplugged the digital telephone from the kitchen socket, and in its place she plugged in the round finger dial telephone - she then took the digital telephone back upstairs to her bedroom (she managed to do all of this before Neville Bamber returned to the farmhouse from the fields)...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 04:10:PM
Everything points to Sheila going upstairs to bed, yet unplugging the round finger dial phone in her parents bedroom (with both her parents absent for one reason or another), so that with Neville Bamber out of the farmhouse, June wouldn't have any means of communication by telephone to anyone or the outside world once she retired to bed. What also seems somewhat obvious was that at some point after June finished speaking with her sister, and June had retired upstairs to her bedroom, that Sheila snook back downstairs and unplugged the digital telephone from the kitchen socket, and in its place she plugged in the round finger dial telephone - she then took the digital telephone back upstairs to her bedroom (she managed to do all of this before Neville Bamber returned to the farmhouse from the fields)...

I have pondered long and hard over the reason why the telephones plugged in at main bedroom and kitchen got tampered with? And the only thing that appears to make any sense, was that Sheila unplugged the bedroom phone so that when she attacked her adoptive mother she could raise the alarm if she didn't die quickly! I think Sheila did this at the conclusion of June's call to her sister Pamela. It's also possible that once Sheila went upstairs leaving June Bamber talking to her sister that Sheila could have been eavesdropping that part of the conversation where June was telling her sister that Sheila was behaving oddly, and that she wanted Pamela to have a look at her on the following day when June would be bringing Sheila and the two children for tea?

As soon as June put the phone down in the kitchen, Sheila unplugged the round finger dial phone from the main bedroom socket, and took it into her bedroom, waiting for June to come upstairs to bed!
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 04:43:PM
I believe this action of Sheila's is covered in the note found on Sheila Caffell's bedside cabinet (DRH/42) which is a series of letters of the alphabet, in particular the following Letters:-

B (bedroom)
P (phone)
L (lead)
U (unplugged..
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 04:46:PM
Of course I am particularly interested in the first two rows of alphabet letters in Sheila's note:-

N   (Nicholas)
M   (mum)
D (Daniel)


G   (gun) - (go)
D (downstairs)..


B (bedroom)
P (phone)
L (lead)
U (unplugged..
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 04:54:PM
G (got)
G (give)
J (Jeremy)
C (call)
F (first)..


we then have the key information which I believe refers to additional bullets Sheila might need to carry out the shootings:-


PLEASE 3
PLEASE 3
PLEASE 3
PLEASE 3
PLEASE 3


5 X 3 = 15
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 04:58:PM
Unplugging the main bedroom telephone was obviously one of Sheila Caffell's main concern!
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 05:00:PM
Unplugging the main bedroom telephone was obviously one of Sheila Caffell's main concern!

I think she took that opportunity with Neville Bamber away from the farmhouse, and June, Daniel and Nicholas isolated in the two separate bedrooms! She unplugged the bedroom phone before June Bamber came upstairs to bed!
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 05:04:PM
I think she took that opportunity with Neville Bamber away from the farmhouse, and June, Daniel and Nicholas isolated in the two separate bedrooms! She unplugged the bedroom phone before June Bamber came upstairs to bed!

It's quite some coincidence that when you add up the 3's which Sheila clearly wrote on the note she left on her bedside cabinet, that she had in her mind the idea that she might be able to kill off the other five victims with a total of 15 bullets! The five victims she had in mind were Nicholas, Mum, Daniel, Neville and Jeremy...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 05:07:PM
Her plan was to try and lure Jeremy to the farmhouse, so that she could kill him as well - and she used Neville Bamber to make the call to Jeremy to try and get him to come to the farm quickly!
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 05:09:PM
Her plan was to try and lure Jeremy to the farmhouse, so that she could kill him as well - and she used Neville Bamber to make the call to Jeremy to try and get him to come to the farm quickly!

It may well be, that she also get Neville to make a second call to the police (3.26am), to tell them that his daughter had got hold of one of his guns, and that she was going berserk...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 05:12:PM
It may well be, that she also get Neville to make a second call to the police (3.26am), to tell them that his daughter had got hold of one of his guns, and that she was going berserk...

Sheila may have reasoned that because she had got Neville to try and lure Jeremy to come to the farm (from nearby Goldhanger) that Jeremy would arrive long before the police from Chelmsford, as a result of her making Neville call police (3.26am), and that this would be sufficient time to shoot Jeremy dead, too, before the arrival of the police..
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 05:15:PM
It didn't quite pan out like that / this..

But, that was Sheila's plan, at least that is the view held by DCI Jones...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 05:21:PM
The more I think about it, the more I become convinced that Sheila had control of the shotgun when she forced Neville Bamber to try and lure Jeremy to the farmhouse, and his call to the police where he was forced to tell them 'My daughter has got hold of one of my guns'...

Earlier, when he was forced to contact Jeremy he had been forced by Sheila to tell Jeremy 'Sheila has got the gun'...

(Call to Jeremy) 'Sheila has got the gun', and (Call to police) 'My daughter has got hold of one of my guns', could have been reference to the same gun (shotgun), or to two different guns (shotgun and rifle)...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 05:26:PM
The more I think about it, the more I become convinced that Sheila had control of the shotgun when she forced Neville Bamber to try and lure Jeremy to the farmhouse, and his call to the police where he was forced to tell them 'My daughter has got hold of one of my guns'...

Earlier, when he was forced to contact Jeremy he had been forced by Sheila to tell Jeremy 'Sheila has got the gun'...

(Call to Jeremy) 'Sheila has got the gun', and (Call to police) 'My daughter has got hold of one of my guns', could have been reference to the same gun (shotgun), or to two different guns (shotgun and rifle)...

The struggle involving the shotgun in the kitchen when the lights have  got broken, and the mantelpiece got scratched must have occurred after Sheila had got Neville to try and lure Jeremy to the farmhouse, and after she had got Neville to contact the police at 3.26am...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 05:30:PM
The struggle involving the shotgun in the kitchen when the lights have  got broken, and the mantelpiece got scratched must have occurred after Sheila had got Neville to try and lure Jeremy to the farmhouse, and after she had got Neville to contact the police at 3.26am...

If true...

Then immediately afterwards, Sheila took possession of a reloaded .22 rifle and killed off Neville Bamber downstairs in the kitchen!
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 05:35:PM
If true...

Then immediately afterwards, Sheila took possession of a reloaded .22 rifle and killed off Neville Bamber downstairs in the kitchen!

I must admit, I am not entirely satisfied that Sheila shot Neville Bamber dead with use of only the anshuzt rifle, or that she had shot and killed off the other three victims (June, Daniel and Nicholas) by way of all the shots fired via the anshuzt rifle. I think that there is a case for believing that only 10 bullets were fired via use of the anshuzt rifle, and that the other 15 bullets were fired from two additional weapons at a ratio of 14 / 1...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 05:36:PM
I simplify this below:-

Anshuzt rifle -10 (14)
Pargeter rifle - 14 (10)
Police issue weapon - 1

Of course, because of the need to convert the police issue bullet into a batch of ammunition purchased by Neville Bamber, the actual ratio, reads as follows:-

Anshuzt rifle (15)?
Pargeter rifle (10)?

the ballistic expert could only positively link 15 crime scene bullets as being fired via that anshuzt rifle (this must have included at least 1 test fired round used in the substitution procedure involving the original small piece of a badly fragmented bullet which was exhibit PV/20..
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 04, 2018, 05:53:PM
I simplify this below:-

Anshuzt rifle -10 (14)
Pargeter rifle - 14 (10)
Police issue weapon - 1

Of course, because of the need to convert the police issue bullet into a batch of ammunition purchased by Neville Bamber, the actual ratio, reads as follows:-

Anshuzt rifle (15)
Pargeter rifle (10)

There existed at the time the matter came to trial, 25 spent bullet cases attributed as having been loaded, fired and ejected via the anshuzt rifle, and 14 spent bullet cases which had been loaded into the Pargeter rifle, fired and ejected - and a spent bullet case fired from a police issue weapon...

The 14 original spent bullet cases which had been loaded and fired from the Pargeter rifle, were retained at the Lab' under an exhibit reference MDF/100, and the police issue spent bullet case was retained separately by the police. These were replaced with 15 test fired bullet cases, which when added to the 10 bullet cases loaded, fired and ejected via use of the anshuzt rifle totalled 25..

5 of the 10 bullet cases which had been loaded and fired from the anshuzt rifle, had double magazine markings on them, suggesting that at some stage 5 rounds had been either loaded into the magazine of the anshuzt rifle, or another magazine to another gun, removed and subsequently reloaded into the magazine of the anshuzt rifle, before being fired, extracted and ejected..

I strongly suspect that at least another 4 test fired bullets were introduced into the makeshift batch of crime scene ammunition, which were test fired via the anshuzt rifle, bringing the total number of bullets used in a substitution procedure to 5 in total which enabled the ballistic expert to link 15 bullets as being fired using the anshuzt rifle, leaving 10 others unclassified...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 05, 2018, 09:54:AM
Actual weapons used in shooting tragedy which discharged shots, is provided below for contemplation:-

12 bore shotgun - fired 1 Raker Cartridge

Anshuzt rifle - fired 10 shots (5 test fired bullets which were fired in the anshuzt rifle were added producing confirmation that 15 of the 25 crime scene bullets had positively been fired via use of this particular weapon

Bruno rifle - fired 14 shots (4 test fired bullets fired via the anshuzt rifle were used in a substitution procedure, preventing any ballistic association with the Pargeter weapon)

Police issue weapon - fired 1 shot (test fired round fired via anshuzt rifle used in a substitution procedure linking this shot to the anshuzt rifle)..
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 05, 2018, 09:56:AM
Actual weapons used in shooting tragedy which discharged shots, is provided below for contemplation:-

12 bore shotgun - fired 1 Raker Cartridge

Anshuzt rifle - fired 10 shots

Bruno rifle - fired 14 shots

Police issue weapon - fired 1 shot..

Revised batch of crime scene ammunition, after substitution of some original bullets, replaced by test fired ones:-

Anshuzt rifle - 15
Other rifle - 10..
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 05, 2018, 10:10:AM
A total of 15 spent bullet cases were used in a substitution procedure, which replaced 14 of the shots fired via the Pargeter rifle (the corresponding 14 bullet cases are still being retained at Huntingdon Lab' under an exhibit reference MDF/100) , and 1 shot fired via the police issue weapon, so that the ballistic expert could present his findings that all the bullets fired during this shooting incident had been loaded and fired via use of the anshuzt rifle, by a reliance upon the fact that all 25 of the revised batch of crime scene spent bullet cases all having been loaded into the magazine of the anshuzt rifle, loaded one by one into the weapons breech, fired and each spent cartridge case extracted and ejected from the gun!
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 05, 2018, 10:18:AM
Based upon the now known facts, for example, we only know of two exhibits introduced by the ballistic expert, Malcolm Fletcher, those being:-

Cloth pull though of barrel of anshuzt rifle - MDF/1
14 spent Cartridge cases - MDF/100

Where and what do the other missing 98 exhibits which formed part of this invention refer to?
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 05, 2018, 10:28:AM
Based upon the now known facts, for example, we only know of two exhibits introduced by the ballistic expert, Malcolm Fletcher, those being:-

Cloth pull though of barrel of anshuzt rifle - MDF/1
14 spent Cartridge cases - MDF/100

Where and what do the other missing 98 exhibits which formed part of this invention refer to?

A list of the missing 'MDF' exhibits are listed below, for the sake of completeness:-

MDF/2 (missing) or (doesn't exist) or (never existed)
MDF/3 (missing)
MDF/4 (missing)
MDF/5 (missing)
MDF/6 (missing)
MDF/7 (missing)
MDF/8 (missing)
MDF/9 (missing)
MDF/10 (missing)
MDF/11 (missing)
MDF/12 (missing)
MDF/13 (missing)
MDF/14 (missing)
MDF/15 (missing) or (doesn't exist) or (never existed)
MDF/16 (missing) or (doesn't exist) or (never existed)
MDF/17
MDF/18
MDF/19
MDF/20
MDF/21
MDF/22
MDF/23
MDF/24
MDF/25
MDF/26
MDF/27
MDF/28
MDF/29
MDF/30
MDF/31
MDF/32
MDF/33
MDF/34
MDF/35
MDF/36
MDF/37
MDF/38
MDF/39
MDF/40
MDF/41
MDF/42
MDF/43
MDF/44
MDF/45
MDF/46
MDF/47
MDF/48
MDF/49
MDF/50
MDF/51
MDF/52
MDF/53
MDF/54
MDF/55
MDF/56
MDF/57
MDF/58
MDF/59
MDF/60
MDF/61
MDF/62
MDF/63
MDF/64
MDF/65
MDF/66
MDF/67
MDF/68
MDF/69
MDF/70
MDF/71
MDF/72
MDF/73
MDF/74
MDF/75
MDF/76
MDF/77
MDF/78
MDF/79
MDF/80
MDF/81
MDF/82
MDF/83
MDF/84
MDF/85
MDF/86
MDF/87
MDF/88
MDF/89
MDF/90
MDF/91
MDF/92
MDF/93
MDF/94
MDF/95
MDF/96
MDF/97
MDF/98 (missing) or (doesn't exist) or (never existed)

if none of these 98 exhibits existed, or don't exist, then it throws the other two key exhibits (MDF/1 the cloth pull through of the barrel of the anshuzt rifle, and MDF/100 the 14 spent bullet cases which are currently being held at Huntingdon Lab') into the spotlight!

Were the 14 spent bullet cases originally MDF/1, and did Fletcher add two 00's transforming it into MDF/100, so that he could accommodate the cloth pull through of the guns barrel to a much earlier time, because he may not have actually performed the cloth pull through test until after he had test fired the anshuzt rifle with control ammunition? He would have known that the cloth pull through test was worthless if he had not performed it until after the rifle had been test fired, so he falsely claimed he had performed it prior to any test firing of control ammunition using the rifle - there was an unofficial test firing of control ammunition on or before 12th September 1985, followed by the official test firing of the same rifle with control ammunition from the 20th September 1985..

I think it's significant that Fletcher claims to have performed the cloth pull through on the 12th September 1985, because he knows that that is the day he performed the unofficial test firing of the anshuzt rifle with control ammunition which was used in the substitution of the original crime scene bullet marked PV/20...


the cloth pull through test of the barrel of the anshuzt rifle was falsified, because it almost certainly was not performed before any other test fired shots were fired from it post date the shooting tragedy! Fletcher performed the unofficial test fire of control ammunition on the 12th September 1985, and gave the cloth pull through test the exhibit reference of MDF/1 ( which was what was originally allocated to the 14 spent bullet cases, mentioned previously), this caused him to alter the original exhibit reference to the 14 spent bullet cases from MDF/1 to MDF/100...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 05, 2018, 10:55:AM
If these 98 exhibits never existed, the ballistic evidence relied upon to prosecute and convict Jeremy Bamber isn't worth the paper it was written upon! The ballistic evidence would stand in tatters, because it would have to be considered to be false. It would be false, just like I have been saying all along!

You can't hide or conceal 98 ballistic exhibits and expect no consequences, whatsoever, to follow...
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 05, 2018, 10:59:AM
If these 98 exhibits never existed, the ballistic evidence relied upon to prosecute and convict Jeremy Bamber isn't worth the paper it was written upon! The ballistic evidence would stand in tatters, because it would have to be considered to be false. It would be false, just like I have been saying all along!

You can't hide or conceal 98 ballistic exhibits and expect no consequences, whatsoever, to follow...

Also bear in mind, that Fletcher has tried his damnedest to deny there was ever another test firing of the anshuzt rifle prior to 20th September 1985, when there must have been otherwise how did he undertake the comparison checks between markings on crime scene ammunition and test fired ammunition fired in the anshuzt rifle on 12th, 13th, 18th and 19th September 1985?
Title: Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
Post by: mike tesko on November 05, 2018, 11:12:AM
On to of all of this, is the fact that Fletcher must have known about the submission of the two different identical looking silencers (which I shall for ease of reference simply refer to as exhibits 'DB/1' and 'DRB/1'), one received at Huntingdon Lab' from the police on 30th August 1985, and the other received from the police on 20th September 1985 - Fletcher could not have dismantled the second silencer (DRB/1) at the Lab' on 12tg September 1985, or found blood inside it on that date, because police hadn't even sent the second silencer (DRB/1) to the Lab' by that date! What this tells everybody and anybody who cares to know the truth is that the blood which has been attributed as belonging uniquely to Sheila Caffell  was not found inside the silencer (DRB/1) that was exhibited during the trial. It simply cannot be true because the individual blood group results were obtained at the Lab' on the 12th, 13th, 18th and 19th September 1975, which were all dates which fell before the second silencer (DRB/1) arrived at the Lab' for the very first time on 29th September 1985..

The silencer evidence, the blood in that (DRB/1) silencer, and the paint from the scratched kitchen aga, had to be, and is fabricated evidence, dishonestly introduced to help convict Jeremy Bamber of shooting dead his sister and staging her death scene as a suicide, when all along the police were involved in the circumstances of Sheila Caffell's death, and the repositioning of her body, the gun and the Bible!