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DISCLAIMER AND FORUM RULES => Disclaimer and forum rules and guidelines => Topic started by: ngb1066 on October 19, 2017, 06:17:PM
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Maggie. With all due respect what is the point of repeatedly threatening to ban people then never acting on it?
People ignore your warnings because they realise nothing ever happens :-\
That is not correct David. We are reluctant to impose bans because that can increase problems, with members posting in support of the banned member. Nevertheless we do use the power to ban on occasions where we feel we have no choice. Bear in mind that a ban can be short term. We very rarely impose a permanent ban, although it has happened a few times. When a ban is imposed we do not normally announce it on the open forum.
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That is not correct David. We are reluctant to impose bans because that can increase problems, with members posting in support of the banned member. Nevertheless we do use the power to ban on occasions where we feel we have no choice. Bear in mind that a ban can be short term. We very rarely impose a permanent ban, although it has happened a few times. When a ban is imposed we do not normally announce it on the open forum.
The only members I know of that have been banned since I have joined are John and Scipio. The former having been banned multiple times under multiple accounts.
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David people do take notice Of course some don't and if they don't action is taken. Your post is not helpful.
Constuctive criticism can be helpfull.
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Constuctive criticism can be helpfull.
Its fine David think we get what you're saying
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The only members I know of that have been banned since I have joined are John and Scipio. The former having been banned multiple times under multiple accounts.
There have been quite a few short term bans apart from those two David.
As ngb said we tend to not advertise when a poster is banned.
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The only members I know of that have been banned since I have joined are John and Scipio. The former having been banned multiple times under multiple accounts.
There have been others banned.
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Are members being invited to comment upon the question posed in the thread title?
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Are members being invited to comment upon the question posed in the thread title?
If you want, please comment Roch. Your opinion would be appreciated.
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If you want, please comment Roch. Your opinion would be appreciated.
OK. It's a difficult one. Personally, my natural inclination would be to take a tough line in order to stamp out recurring, problematic issues. Some on-going issues can only be assessed on a member by member basis (i.e. not all issues not easily fit in to a categorised 'offence').
I understand the ethos of the forum is towards toleration and inclusion and I couldn't 100% guarantee that taking a firmer line would result in a 'better' forum. There would probably be some loss or sacrifice entailed in the process.
In theory, if it's easier to incur a ban - that should translate in to more sensible posting and less work for the mods. The return of the banned member might depend upon their posting behaviour elsewhere...
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OK. It's a difficult one. Personally, my natural inclination would be to take a tough line in order to stamp out recurring, problematic issues. Some on-going issues can only be assessed on a member by member basis (i.e. not all issues not easily fit in to a categorised 'offence').
I understand the ethos of the forum is towards toleration and inclusion and I couldn't 100% guarantee that taking a firmer line would result in a 'better' forum. There would probably be some loss or sacrifice entailed in the process.
In theory, if it's easier to incur a ban - that should translate in to more sensible posting and less work for the mods. The return of the banned member might depend upon their posting behaviour elsewhere...
Your points are fair ones Roch. It is a difficult balance.
Two bans were imposed last night. They are both temporary.
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OK. It's a difficult one. Personally, my natural inclination would be to take a tough line in order to stamp out recurring, problematic issues. Some on-going issues can only be assessed on a member by member basis (i.e. not all issues not easily fit in to a categorised 'offence').
I understand the ethos of the forum is towards toleration and inclusion and I couldn't 100% guarantee that taking a firmer line would result in a 'better' forum. There would probably be some loss or sacrifice entailed in the process.
In theory, if it's easier to incur a ban - that should translate in to more sensible posting and less work for the mods. The return of the banned member might depend upon their posting behaviour elsewhere...
It already does.
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OK. It's a difficult one. Personally, my natural inclination would be to take a tough line in order to stamp out recurring, problematic issues. Some on-going issues can only be assessed on a member by member basis (i.e. not all issues not easily fit in to a categorised 'offence').
I understand the ethos of the forum is towards toleration and inclusion and I couldn't 100% guarantee that taking a firmer line would result in a 'better' forum. There would probably be some loss or sacrifice entailed in the process.
In theory, if it's easier to incur a ban - that should translate in to more sensible posting and less work for the mods. The return of the banned member might depend upon their posting behaviour elsewhere...
We will give higher priority to that factor from now on.
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Your points are fair ones Roch. It is a difficult balance.
Two bans were imposed last night. They are both temporary.
One is now permanent, the other lifted early.
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Neil, thanks for the updates.
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I am wishing the mods would do something about posters demanding sources when those sources have already been stated umpteen times.
its just a dishonest time wasting exercise desgned to shut down debate.
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Ban Adam. He is far better suited to the UK Justice Forum.
I'm asking for anyone to banned unless its ablutly necarsrly but I wish something would be done about it.
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I do wish posters would not create thread questions & posts based on things that were not said or done. Then ignore source requests.
This has happened twice on recent created threads. The poster eventually admitting he was wrong in one thread 'quote' title he created. On the other thread the poster gave two false sources to support the false quote.
I did tell the poster to respond to source requests & stop giving false quotes & information. But he's been doing it again the last two days to try to prove a minor point.
I know 4 or 5 supporters are very determined but the guilters are much too knowledgable to not demand sources for things they have never read before.
Then guilters have to waste time chasing up the source request which is either ignored, a false source given or no straight answer given.
It wastes time when the forum could be discussing the facts.
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Ban Adam. He is far better suited to the UK Justice Forum.
"Do mods ban disruptive posters quickly enough?" The fact Adam has made almost 20,000 posts on this forum undeniably makes the answer no.
The mods would make their lives allot easier by simply purging the undesirables.
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"Do mods ban disruptive posters quickly enough?" The fact Adam has made almost 20,000 posts on this forum undeniably makes the answer no.
The mods would make their lives allot easier by simply purging the undesirables.
The moderation team have fostered an inclusive environment where the values of 'freedom of speech' are upheld. Unfortunately some posters can take a lend of this in various ways. If someone is racking up tens of thousands of posts with a repetitive theme, they are effectively a nuisance poster. They probably don't contravene forum rules - but the forum would be a better place without them.
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"Do mods ban disruptive posters quickly enough?" The fact Adam has made almost 20,000 posts on this forum undeniably makes the answer no.
The mods would make their lives allot easier by simply purging the undesirables.
That may be true but then the yardstick of a good moderator is to exercise a little discretion. We have all snapped at times and before you know where you are half the membership will have gone.
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I don't think Adam is disruptive. He's a little obsessed with posting the same lists of points over and over again, but he does discuss the case properly.
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I have had to post the 16 sources to the pieces of evidence recently. After Nugs said I only use COA as a source.
Was posting on a music forum for a few years. It was busier than this forum. However the forum recently totally closed down without warning. Which was strange.
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Was posting on a music forum for a few years. It was busier than this forum. However the forum recently totally closed down without warning. Which was strange.
What type of music?
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What type of music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_IS_ccjkZE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_IS_ccjkZE)
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"Do mods ban disruptive posters quickly enough?" The fact Adam has made almost 20,000 posts on this forum undeniably makes the answer no.
The mods would make their lives allot easier by simply purging the undesirables.
I'd put you top of that list!
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The moderation team have fostered an inclusive environment where the values of 'freedom of speech' are upheld. Unfortunately some posters can take a lend of this in various ways. If someone is racking up tens of thousands of posts with a repetitive theme, they are effectively a nuisance poster. They probably don't contravene forum rules - but the forum would be a better place without them.
yes.
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The moderation team have fostered an inclusive environment where the values of 'freedom of speech' are upheld. Unfortunately some posters can take a lend of this in various ways. If someone is racking up tens of thousands of posts with a repetitive theme, they are effectively a nuisance poster. They probably don't contravene forum rules - but the forum would be a better place without them.
Isn't that a matter of opinion? I think I know who you are trying to describe but that is also descriptive of many others, including Mike.