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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2019, 02:28:PM »
Those who gave evidence about Luke and knives (e.g Ferris, Dickie, Kelly) had a vested interest in doing so and their evidence wasn't corroborated - for example, Ferris identified a knife as Luke's "because Dickie told him it was Luke's." One girl who claimed Luke threatened her with a knife didn't give evidence, but gave her story to the media. The other's story was dismissed when the other girl who was present the whole time said it didn't happen.

The FBI profile was never released to the defence - it was obtained by an independent journalist, but was so heavily redacted there was no readable information at all. I've always said that, if there was anything implicating Luke in there, they'd have used it.

Nugnug, the two kids never gave evidence and were never named - to my knowledge, they're not linked in any way to anyone who's been discussed in connection to the case.

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2019, 11:00:AM »
Tomorrow at 5pm, James English's Anything Goes Show will be broadcasting an interview with me about the Luke Mitchell case.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkdiBNdMSiQeT8aD7gXWgvA

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2019, 01:48:PM »
thankyou sandra im glad sothing new has happend

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2019, 08:29:PM »
It's getting a lot of interest, Nugnug - might be the right time to set up the new discussion forum?

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2019, 09:11:PM »
It's getting a lot of interest, Nugnug - might be the right time to set up the new discussion forum?

yes i wondred that.

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2019, 08:26:PM »
Sandra can you please provide a source for JF masturbating with the condom in the woods on the night of the murder?

ive never heard him deny it.

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2019, 12:55:PM »
Also how can you tell the viewers, with a clear conscience, that Falconer would have to step over the body to have a wank 50 yards away from it?

well i suppose it would depend what route he took as it was still daylight i am suprid he couldent see the body.

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #38 on: April 03, 2019, 03:28:PM »
Sandra can you please provide a source for JF masturbating with the condom in the woods on the night of the murder?

Certainly, Lithium. The condom was found in the early hours of July 1st - within hours of Jodi's body being found. Forensic reports referred to its contents as "fresh" - i.e. there was no evidence of breakdown or degradation of cells. James Falconer, himself, said in his statement that it was the night of the murder that he took a stroll down behind the wall to masturbate because of the lack of privacy at home. It was James Falconer himself who said it was around 8 - 9 pm that night. Can't really argue with the man's own words, can we?

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Also how can you tell the viewers, with a clear conscience, that Falconer would have to step over the body to have a wank 50 yards away from it?

What an interesting question, Lithium. Firstly, I didn't say he'd have had to step over the body to "have a wank" - I said, "If his own account is correct, he'd have to have almost literally stepped over the body on the way down and on the way back up." He said he went down behind the wall, did what he said he did and discarded the condom, which was found 20 yards from the body, not 50 yards. Now, here's the thing - he didn't say what the order of events was and I've never publicly stated where the condom was in proximity to the body. So he could have masturbated before reaching the body, then carried on down the woodland strip, discarding the condom westward of the body, or he could have gone past the body, masturbated and left the condom westward of the body, or he could have masturbated past the body (westward) and discarded the condom on the way back up, or finally, he could have masturbated before the body, discarded the condom then (eastward of the body) but for some reason then continued down the woodland strip before returning the way he came.

There's no point in shooting the messenger on this one - it's in his own statements.

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #39 on: April 03, 2019, 04:55:PM »
Some ridiculous misinformation doing the rounds now. So job done I guess, Sandra.

well if you blive there is misinformation would you like to correct it with your own version of events.

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #40 on: April 05, 2019, 10:48:AM »
Hi, I was watching the James English podcast and have a question.
It was said that Corrine and Shane were out of the house at the time of the murder. I always thought that Shane was in the house supposedly watching porn as the phone lines had been busy with the old dial up system. I thought that they had just never seen each other.

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #41 on: April 05, 2019, 11:30:AM »
Luke was at home, alone, making and answering calls prior to the claimed time of the murder. Two points to be made about this - (1) it refutes any suggestion that he didn't go home from school but went to lie in wait for Jodi in the woodland strip (as has been claimed at certain points). (2) In conjunction with the texts with Jodi's mum's phone, it supports the statement that he would not have had enough time to get from his home to the top of the path in time to be the person seen by Andrina Bryson.

His brother called ahead to say he might be late for dinner - in the event, he wasn't late (but did get home later than he would have if he'd come straight home from work). Brother came home, then mum came home. Both said Luke was in the house by the time they both got there (4.50 and 5.15 respectively.

The nonsense about Shane saying he didn't see Luke was brought about by police manipulation of the entire family - even the appeal judges agreed the "evidence," as it was manipulated, would not have been admissible if Shane had been a suspect, but because he was a witness, the same protections didn't apply.


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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #42 on: April 05, 2019, 11:40:AM »
Hi, I was watching the James English podcast and have a question.
It was said that Corrine and Shane were out of the house at the time of the murder. I always thought that Shane was in the house supposedly watching porn as the phone lines had been busy with the old dial up system. I thought that they had just never seen each other.

I was asked if there was anything (other than his mum and brother's testimony) to support Luke's alibi  and I said, "to a degree." The timings of the calls made and received on the landline, when they were both out, support his alibi that he was at home prior to 5.15pm (the police suggested at one point that he hadn't gone home from school at all that day). It also makes the claim that it was Luke who was at the Easthouses end of the path much less credible because of the timing.

The phone line was busy from 4.50 - 5.05 (approx) because when Shane came in from work, he went straight upstairs to use the internet - he didn't see Luke at that point because Luke was in the kitchen. He did see Luke when he came down for his tea at 5.15pm when his mum came in.

The time of the murder was 5.15pm - both Shane and Corinne were home by then (there's never been any question about that) - the phone records demonstrate that Luke must have been at home up to 4.30pm, he would have had no reason to go out to meet Jodi prior to 4.38 (at the end of the exchange of texts, so there wasn't enough time for him to have been the person seen by Andrina Bryson at the Easthouses end of the path.

The busy phone line only came into the story at all because it was claimed Luke called the speaking clock on his mobile at 4.54 and must, therefore have been out of the house. The Andrina Bryson sighting never mentioned any mobile phone, even though it was claimed to have happened at the exact time Luke was calling the speaking clock

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #43 on: April 06, 2019, 10:31:AM »
Not to mention Luke was wasting his top-up credit calling a premium rate talking clock phone number from his mobile phone around the time of the murder when he was supposed to be at home.

No evidence, ever, for "time of murder." Plenty of evidence that Luke regularly called the speaking clock from his mobile. 

[/quote]Perfectly normal thing to be sitting in the house doing. Surrounded by clocks, also a landline sitting there since he apparently just had to know the exact time at that moment. [/quote] Landline was busy (internet), kitchen clock was unreliable, microwave clock was never set. Time of death wasn't even suggested until three weeks later after an expert was brought in to identify a window of opportunity for Luke to have been the killer.

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Funny he didn't use this same phone to once attempt to call Jodi who he was so infatuated with to ask where she was?! Considering they had plans to meet??? Strange that.

He did! He called her mother's landline twice. Jodi's phone was broken - he couldn't have contacted her if she'd decided to go elsewhere.

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He just forgot about it and went to bed that night without wondering "wait, wasn't Jodi supposed to come?" They were inseparable according to Corinne but Luke wasn't concerned about her no-show and lack of explanation or texts.

No. He never got to bed that night, remember? He called his mum at 7pm to say if Jodi turned up at the house to send her over to the Abbey - Jodi had no phone, remember. As late as 7pm, he was still hoping she'd turn up - there were two possibilities - she'd been unexpectedly grounded again (which even her mum agreed could happen at the drop of a hat) or she'd decided to do something else. They were 14 year old kids.

Before you come back with "he was told she'd left to meet him," no, he wasn't. Jodi's mother's partner told him Jodi had "just left" at 5.38pm. He didn't say "left to meet you, Luke" - that was added to the statements later.  So she could have been nipping out to the shop, got to the end of the path and been called back by her mother - anything. Luke called asking if Jodi was there, AO told him "she's just left" - those are the only reliable facts we have.


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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #44 on: April 06, 2019, 01:45:PM »
😂😂😂😂

"Corinne and Shane were both with Luke at the time of the murder"

"Well phone records prove the house phone was being used, and we know for certain Shane wasn't home, and we know for certain Corinne wasn't home. So it must've been Luke"

The Mitchells can't ever really seem to keep their story straight when it comes to Luke's alibi.

Luke was burning a chicken pie. Shane wasn't home. Shane was home watching porn so Luke must not have been in. Wait, Shane was at work... But Luke made dinner for them though. Wait Luke burned the dinner. So what did they eat? Corinne was at work. But wait Corinne was with him lol.

he was uusing the internet so he must of been home.

if shane wasnt home who was using it.
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